Scrap national leagues for pan European league?

darkman2

I don't know if this has been seriously considered or not but I was thinking it might not be a bad idea to scrap national leagues in Europe and establish one European league system. The reason is that it would be fantastic for smaller clubs especially from small countries. The big clubs might have less to gain but it would provide a bigger revenue stream for them too due to the number of big games that would occur in a new European 1st division or premier league. Logistically it may be problematic for some clubs in terms of travel and that but in this day and age travel within Europe is easy and is no big thing. Imagine all of Europe's top teams in the one league...


What, in your opinion, would be the pro's and con's of a new pan European league and the ending of national leagues? Do you think it will ever happen? I actually think it will happen but just not for some time yet. I can see the merits in it.

markie29

Just a big no to this one..

losthorizon

Anybody who votes yes to this really doesn't understand football at all. Its a big no.

I imagine you would get a big no in this country, in England, in Bulgaria, In Spain, in Lithuania etc etc

The national League is the heart of the game.

darkman2

Why?


It means more





for clubs.

That's all football is about these days. That's why I think it will happen and also we are moving toward a United States of Europe anyway...

Guy:Incognito

You couldnt just scrap the domestic leagues. Only a certain amount of clubs could go in to a europe wide league system , otherwise you'd have to accomodate every team from every country. Thered be thousands of teams and a 40 or 50 tier league system.

J. Marston

darkman2 wrote: »

I don't know if this has been seriously considered or not but I was thinking it might not be a bad idea to scrap national leagues in Europe and establish one European league system. The reason is that it would be fantastic for smaller clubs especially from small countries. The big clubs might have less to gain but it would provide a bigger revenue stream for them too due to the number of big games that would occur in a new European 1st division or premier league. Logistically it may be problematic for some clubs in terms of travel and that but in this day and age travel within Europe is easy and is no big thing. Imagine all of Europe's top teams in the one league...


What, in your opinion, would be the pro's and con's of a new pan European league and the ending of national leagues? Do you think it will ever happen? I actually think it will happen but just not for some time yet. I can see the merits in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cgbZqR2AGI

CSF

darkman2 wrote: »

I don't know if this has been seriously considered or not but I was thinking it might not be a bad idea to scrap national leagues in Europe and establish one European league system. The reason is that it would be fantastic for smaller clubs especially from small countries. The big clubs might have less to gain but it would provide a bigger revenue stream for them too due to the number of big games that would occur in a new European 1st division or premier league. Logistically it may be problematic for some clubs in terms of travel and that but in this day and age travel within Europe is easy and is no big thing. Imagine all of Europe's top teams in the one league...


What, in your opinion, would be the pro's and con's of a new pan European league and the ending of national leagues? Do you think it will ever happen? I actually think it will happen but just not for some time yet. I can see the merits in it.

Stop trying to ruin football.

bigdaddyliamo

This always seems like a good idea for the people who cannot see past the barca/ man utd games. what numbers do you think will show up for the Pandurii Târgu Jiu vs Bray wanderers match away on a wet wednesday in Romania?

F all, that's how many. Terrible idea. That is all.

dreamers75

Big clubs want this and will get it either that or CL football on saturdays.

GLaDOS

I fail to see how this would benefit small teams in any way, if it's in a tiered system.

Big clubs would stay playing big clubs, making more money.

Smaller clubs would play smaller clubs from other countries, who won't be much of a draw and away attendances will suffer for obvious reasons. Additionally, away expenses for clubs would be a lot bigger.

dreamers75

ScienceNerd wrote: »

I fail to see how this would benefit small teams in any way, if it's in a tiered system.

Big clubs would stay playing big clubs, making more money.

Smaller clubs would play smaller clubs from other countries, who won't be much of a draw and away attendances will suffer for obvious reasons. Additionally, away expenses for clubs would be a lot bigger.

So everyone bar the CL teams would be LOI clubs ? interesting.....

GLaDOS

dreamers75 wrote: »

So everyone bar the CL teams would be LOI clubs ? interesting.....

Pats would be playing a Soviet team away every week

kitakyushu

Everyone talks about the 'tradition' of domestic leagues as tho they are sacrosanct and that the top teams will never want to leave just because that's the way it's been for 120+ years.

However I do predict a future (a long time from now - generations) where there will be an NFL style franchised European league with the superbig clubs meeting year after year as part of an exclusive organisation rather than something you can be promoted or relegated from.

Thanks to the Champions Leagues there's already a visible two tier hierarchy being created among clubs in Europe. These teams will eventually break away when the time is right and the pot is big enough.

Below that tho I'm convinced domestic leagues will still exist, much in the same way many sports are administered on a State by state basis in the US and have a strong identity in that regard.

I don't think there'll ever be this complete European league system you speak of as it'd be simply financially unviable for the smaller clubs.

dreamers75

kitakyushu wrote: »

Everyone talks about the 'tradition' of domestic leagues as tho they are sacrosanct and that the top teams will never want to leave just because that's the way it's been for 120+ years.

However I do predict a future (a long time from now - generations) where there will be an NFL style franchised European league with the superbig clubs meeting year after year as part of an exclusive organisation rather than something you can be promoted or relegated from.

Thanks to the Champions Leagues there's already a visible two tier hierarchy being created among clubs in Europe. These teams will eventually break away when the time is right and the pot is big enough.

Below that tho I'm convinced domestic leagues will still exist, much in the same way many sports are administered on a State by state basis in the US and have a strong identity in that regard.

I don't think there'll ever be this complete European league system you speak of as it'd be simply financially unviable for the smaller clubs.

That will happen but it will end out like Darts but you can only play for one or the other.

Where To

Great idea OP.

Finn Harps can't fill a minibus to go to Longford, how many fans do you think they will take to FK Yenisey Krasnoyarsk, and vice versa?

Pepe LeFrits

kitakyushu wrote: »

Everyone talks about the 'tradition' of domestic leagues as tho they are sacrosanct and that the top teams will never want to leave just because that's the way it's been for 120+ years.

However I do predict a future (a long time from now - generations) where there will be an NFL style franchised European league with the superbig clubs meeting year after year as part of an exclusive organisation rather than something you can be promoted or relegated from.

Thanks to the Champions Leagues there's already a visible two tier hierarchy being created among clubs in Europe. These teams will eventually break away when the time is right and the pot is big enough.

Below that tho I'm convinced domestic leagues will still exist, much in the same way many sports are administered on a State by state basis in the US and have a strong identity in that regard.

I don't think there'll ever be this complete European league system you speak of as it'd be simply financially unviable for the smaller clubs.

I agree. I think you'll see the CL continue to expand and I wouldn't be surprised if the big leagues gradually reduce their size to accommodate more European games, as a precursor to a permanent break. You've already got a few teams whose financial power means they're in there every year. On a broader level, Europe is becoming a lot smaller and international club rivalries are eroding local ones. European competition is only going to grow in influence.

stovelid

Would it be safe to make a wild guess that you have never attended a live game as an away supporter in your life?

Washington Irving

There are no words.

MrJoeSoap

For the sake of balance, and purely that, I wholeheartedly agree with the OP.

dreamers75

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

For the sake of balance, and purely that, I wholeheartedly agree with the OP.

Typical shels fan

GarIT

I think it may be a good idea if it was based on the Blue square north/south setup. The lower teams play in a local sub division in their own country and the bigger teams move into a European league. I think it would increase tv revenue but kill supporters going to away games.

Where To

Why not go the whole hog at make it a SUPER-DUPER-WHOLE-WIDE-WORLD-LEAGUE!!

I for one would pay good money to watch the North/South Pole derby; Tromsø v Boca Rio Gallegos.

Mouthwatering Eyewatering

CSF

GarIT wrote: »

I think it would increase tv revenue but kill supporters going to away games.

Which in itself makes it a TERRIBLE idea.

osarusan

Horribe horrible idea which would create an even bigger divide between the rich cclubs and the rest.

There's nothing in it for the smaller clubs. Nothing.

The top division would have the top 16 (or 18, whatever) clubs in Europe, and the clubs in the lower divisions would be playing opposition less glamorous than they play now, with travel costs increased (for supporters too), and they'd have to push themselves to the edge of bankruptcy to get promoted to the top flight.

IncognitoMan

Ok I don't support the idea but here at least is an article the puts up a half interesting proposal.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/828278-arsne-wenger-was-right-how-a-european-super-league-could-save-football

I cant see this nor am I sure I would want to see this, playing the same teams every year in a league just wouldn't have that same special match feeling you get when your team is drawn against one of Europe's other big clubs

Richard Hillman

Would love to see this happen. I want to see the best against the best everyweek. The smaller leagues can continue on as normal but europes biggest clubs should Just combine themselves and dump the deadwood in their leagues.

Drumpot

It's a **** idea. I think it will end up ruining whatever clubs breakaway. Yiu will see games between united and barca being played in new York and it will become a joke of a sport like baseketball!

Redzer7

No definitely not!

G.K.

No, but I can see it happening.