Player of Year in your club

THEIRISHMOB

Can you all tell me what the Player of the year in your golf club wins?

As I have had this idea where every club in Ireland gives the same prize to their Men's and Ladies player of the year.

Each would win a custom engraved 24ct gold platted putter with their club/ and player name on it. "Mary Duffy 2012 Lady player of year The K Club"
(beats a regular trophy) and would be nice in your bag?


All holders of these putters for 2012 play a grand final for a yet to be confirmed "amazing golf prize" (Tickets to the Masters 2013 or week in Thailand for 2 playing golf, something like that)

For every putter presented I would organise a fixed donation to a charity (make-a-wish) would be my charity of choice and if we could get all the clubs in Ireland involved we could raise €14,000 just from this simple idea.

thoughts....!!!

TheDoc

Thats sounds a great idea.

I dont think there is anything more prestigous then being able to say you are the best player in your club for the year

THEIRISHMOB

TheDoc wrote: »

Thats sounds a great idea.

I dont think there is anything more prestigous then being able to say you are the best player in your club for the year

And have the Putter (trophy) in your bag to show it lol
It would be a very high end putter that can be used as the face of the putter is not affected or gold plated.

Keep the comments coming please......!!!

TheDoc

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

And have the Putter (trophy) in your bag to show it lol
It would be a very high end putter that can be used as the face of the putter is not affected or gold plated.

Keep the comments coming please......!!!

I wouldnt use the putter, or carry it in my bag.

But I would defintly have it hanging with pride


Some more friendly for the bag like a tag, patch or even headcover might be an option

Sandwlch

TheDoc wrote: »

I dont think there is anything more prestigous then being able to say you are the best player in your club for the year

Not a fan of it. Always has a whiff of suspicion of it being a 'Whose Handicap Was Most Incorrect at the Start of the Year Competition'.

Seves Three Iron

I think it's a great idea. Huge amount of logistical work to get everyone to sign up to it I'd imagine though, on second thoughts, maybe if you could convince the GUI they could do much of the spadework for you by contacting all the clubs centrally. I see where the last poster is coming from with the handicap issue but don't really agree. From my own perspective, I put a huge amount of work in last year in my club to try and win it and eventually came second. Pain in the hole coz it was me last decent year of competitive golf with kiddy on the way. But, in fairness, to the guy who won it he was a four handicap and delivered in all the big competitions all year with excellent gross scores. No banditry there.

As for the prize, personally, I wouldn't worry about whether it's a trophy putter or reusable one. If I won golfer of the year I wouldn't be switching putters anyway.

THEIRISHMOB

Sandwlch wrote: »

Not a fan of it. Always has a whiff of suspicion of it being a 'Whose Handicap Was Most Incorrect at the Start of the Year Competition'.

Player of the year in every club wins a prize anyway.
Just the idea of the putter and all the holders playing a grand final is the great idea and if everyone pulled together a great charity could gain.

Im sure we would be able to get loads of other sponsors for the grand final and make it an amazing annual day out. "The best of the Best" event where the clubs best player plays in the grand final and loads of his fellow members support.

Would be a great way to find "Irelands best club player" and raise loads of cash for charity.

keep the comments coming.

Uncle Ben

430 GUI affiliated clubs, plus the wimmin:), a certainty play will be slow on the day!!

THEIRISHMOB

Uncle Ben wrote: »

430 GUI affiliated clubs, plus the wimmin:), a certainty play will be slow on the day!!

I think if 100 clubs took part this year it would be amazing.

What do you actually think of the concept of the Club player of the year winning the Gold plated putter and all the winners coming together at the end of a year to play to see whos the best of the best?

Also the Charity side of the idea..

Redzah

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

I think if 100 clubs took part this year it would be amazing.

What do you actually think of the concept of the Club player of the year winning the Gold plated putter and all the winners coming together at the end of a year to play to see whos the best of the best?

Also the Charity side of the idea..

To be honest, i'd rather a 400e GUI voucher than a gold plated putter which i see as an extravagant needless expenditure that illustrates irish culture over the last 15 years. The title of golfer of the year is enough without a flash gold plated putter to wave in every1's face.

Winners coming together for play off would work, possibly provincial qualifiers if necessary due to numbers.

Not sure how you plan on making this a charity event? Who donates? How would it be raised? For what cause?

Doesn't the extravagant gold plated putter take away cash from your charitable cause. Asking some1 for money for charity when you're rocking off for a weeks golf in thailand with a gold plated putter is a massive contradiction in my book!!!!!!

Almaviva

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

For every putter presented I would organise a fixed donation to a charity (make-a-wish) would be my charity of choice and if we could get all the clubs in Ireland involved we could raise €14,000 just from this simple idea.
thoughts....!!!

Why dont you just donate the money to charity straight up ? Whats the need for gold plated putters and Thailand ?

k.p.h

Redzah wrote: »

To be honest, i'd rather a 400e GUI voucher than a gold plated putter which i see as an extravagant needless expenditure that illustrates irish culture over the last 15 years. The title of golfer of the year is enough without a flash gold plated putter to wave in every1's face.

Winners coming together for play off would work, possibly provincial qualifiers if necessary due to numbers.

Not sure how you plan on making this a charity event? Who donates? How would it be raised? For what cause?

Doesn't the extravagant gold plated putter take away cash from your charitable cause. Asking some1 for money for charity when you're rocking off for a weeks golf in thailand with a gold plated putter is a massive contradiction in my book!!!!!!

Which is the extravagant needless expenditure? The 400e voucher or the putter ..?

I'm pretty sure the idea behind the putter is that it replaces a trophy or other such prize. So unless you think a prize is a needless expenditure..

Maybe some people are not getting the concept.

The idea is that the clubs still pay for the putter to give to their golfer of the year. This cost in turn this pays for the further competition and subsequent prizes. Out of this cost some of the money taken would be donated to charity.

The real question is would a GOTY winner prefer a couple of hundred euro voucher or a gold plated putter,entry into an nationwide championship with an array of great prizes, all of which is beneficial for a chosen charity.

For me I think it's a great idea but only if you could have the main event being something spectacular, maybe something similar to the amateur majors tour events etc. maybe at a top course and still very competitive. I'm pretty sure any of the GOTY winners would be golfing well and love to take their game to the next level of competition, this would be a great way to do it.

JCDUB

If you think the GUI are going to spend thousands on a golf trip to Thailand and all clubs are going to spend a few hundred on gold plated putters you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

Most clubs can barely afford to keep their heads above water financially right now.

My club has a trophy (which is missing!) and a piece of crystal.

Re: handicap issue, in my club its almost always won by consistent golfers i.e. low men, so that theory doesn't hold any water. If players play well enough consistently on medal courses throughout the year they deserve it tbh, and usually its only lowish players who can manage that.

THEIRISHMOB

Redzah wrote: »

To be honest, i'd rather a 400e GUI voucher than a gold plated putter which i see as an extravagant needless expenditure that illustrates irish culture over the last 15 years. The title of golfer of the year is enough without a flash gold plated putter to wave in every1's face.

Winners coming together for play off would work, possibly provincial qualifiers if necessary due to numbers.

Not sure how you plan on making this a charity event? Who donates? How would it be raised? For what cause?

Doesn't the extravagant gold plated putter take away cash from your charitable cause. Asking some1 for money for charity when you're rocking off for a weeks golf in thailand with a gold plated putter is a massive contradiction in my book!!!!!!

1.The gold plated putter is to replace the trophy and it would be a something that you would have in your golf bag for the rest of your life to show that you were a player of the year in your club...are all monthly medals not gold?
Something like the week in Thailand would again be sponsored by Emirates or Etihad or someone..

2. The money would be raised by the putter supplier offering X sponsorship for every putter. At the grand final we could have a charity auction as I am sure I could get thousands of products and sponsorship for such an event, its what I do.

3. I agree with provincial qualifiers, but the point of a lot of players coming together would be the chance to have a BIG event for a great cause.

The charity I thought of was Make a wish as whats better than a kids charity and Padraig Harrington supports that and I am sure I could get him involved...!!!

I just think that it would be a great event and there is no looser.

THEIRISHMOB

JCDUB wrote: »

If you think the GUI are going to spend thousands on a golf trip to Thailand and all clubs are going to spend a few hundred on gold plated putters you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

Most clubs can barely afford to keep their heads above water financially right now.

My club has a trophy (which is missing!) and a piece of crystal.

Re: handicap issue, in my club its almost always won by consistent golfers i.e. low men, so that theory doesn't hold any water. If players play well enough consistently on medal courses throughout the year they deserve it tbh, and usually its only lowish players who can manage that.

The Putters would be paid for by the Club instead of a trophy each year. Its not actually that expensive. GUI pay nothing. Holiday would be sponsored.

AND the whole idea behind the putter is that is it something you can keep in your golf bag that shows you were a player of the year and you are in a rare group in your club and country....!!!

JCDUB

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

JCDUB wrote: »

If you think the GUI are going to spend thousands on a golf trip to Thailand and all clubs are going to spend a few hundred on gold plated putters you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

Most clubs can barely afford to keep their heads above water financially right now.

My club has a trophy (which is missing!) and a piece of crystal.

Re: handicap issue, in my club its almost always won by consistent golfers i.e. low men, so that theory doesn't hold any water. If players play well enough consistently on medal courses throughout the year they deserve it tbh, and usually its only lowish players who can manage that.

The Putters would be paid for by the Club instead of a trophy each year. Its not actually that expensive. GUI pay nothing. Holiday would be sponsored.

AND the whole idea behind the putter is that is it something you can keep in your golf bag that shows you were a player of the year and you are in a rare group in your club and country....!!!

Fair enough, I know I'd gladly have accepted a nice trip to Thailand or wherever when I won it!

As for the putter, doubt I'd use it but it would be displayed about the house alright. Nice idea for a different prize.

GreeBo

Golfer of the Year means your name goes up on the board with the 100 other names and is there forever.
That, to me at least, is better than a holiday somewhere.

Russman

I think its potentially a great idea. Clubs would come on board as long as there is no additional cost to them (or very little). Might be easiest to get the GUI on board, but that would probably/possibly be harder than getting the clubs on board, the GUI usually wait to see if an idea works before they'll back it.

In my club the golfer of the year gets an engraved perpetual trophy to hold for the year, plus a prize, usually from the pro-shop.

Different clubs run their player of the year on different basis, don't know if this would have any impact on the competition. Probably not, as it could be a tournament simply for whoever has the title "Player of the year" or "Golfer of the year" regardless of how they won it.

Also most clubs' final qualifying comp for golfer of the year is fairly late in the season, would the qualifier be the following year ? or just take a chance with the weather in Autumn/early winter ?

A good idea overall, but would definitely need the backing of a big company for the cost of the prizes. If as you say, for example an Etihad or Emirates came on board, plus a Ping or Odyssey then it would have a much greater chance of success and would also give players a good incentive to enter GoY comps in their clubs. Also the issue of male & female entrants, I know in my club there are separate golfers of the year, I don't know if thats the norm or if some clubs have an overall "player of the year"......?

Russman

GreeBo wrote: »

Golfer of the Year means your name goes up on the board with the 100 other names and is there forever.
That, to me at least, is better than a holiday somewhere.

Good point.

Now, if only the powers that be in my club could be persuaded that Golfers of the Year and Club Champions should have a board with their names on it.........;)

THEIRISHMOB

GreeBo wrote: »

Golfer of the Year means your name goes up on the board with the 100 other names and is there forever.
That, to me at least, is better than a holiday somewhere.

Does it still not go up on the board? in your club.

You can give the holiday to charity for a raffle prize.

Now it seems like I can't even give away a weeks holiday lol

THEIRISHMOB

Russman wrote: »

I think its potentially a great idea. Clubs would come on board as long as there is no additional cost to them (or very little). Might be easiest to get the GUI on board, but that would probably/possibly be harder than getting the clubs on board, the GUI usually wait to see if an idea works before they'll back it.

In my club the golfer of the year gets an engraved perpetual trophy to hold for the year, plus a prize, usually from the pro-shop.

Different clubs run their player of the year on different basis, don't know if this would have any impact on the competition. Probably not, as it could be a tournament simply for whoever has the title "Player of the year" or "Golfer of the year" regardless of how they won it.

Also most clubs' final qualifying comp for golfer of the year is fairly late in the season, would the qualifier be the following year ? or just take a chance with the weather in Autumn/early winter ?

A good idea overall, but would definitely need the backing of a big company for the cost of the prizes. If as you say, for example an Etihad or Emirates came on board, plus a Ping or Odyssey then it would have a much greater chance of success and would also give players a good incentive to enter GoY comps in their clubs. Also the issue of male & female entrants, I know in my club there are separate golfers of the year, I don't know if thats the norm or if some clubs have an overall "player of the year"......?

I suppose in October a 1 day event.

Would have both a Men's and Ladies event with the exact same prizes.

Would be great if the GUI backed it as it would get more clubs involved but at the end of the day it would be up to the committee in each club to approve it.

For all those that don't fancy a week in Thailand maybe we could do a trip to the Masters...

Dtoffee

GreeBo wrote: »

Golfer of the Year means your name goes up on the board with the 100 other names and is there forever.
That, to me at least, is better than a holiday somewhere.

Was thinking the very same when I read the OP.

It's an honour to win GOTY in your club and the prize should not be substantial as far as I'm concerned. I find that the more valuable the prize, the more it attracts problems .... keep it simple, it's the prestige of winning that matters not the prize.

I would add that I think it would be a great idea if the GUI produced a GOTY certificate for each club to present to the winner (maybe they already do?).

Redzah

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

Does it still not go up on the board? in your club.

You can give the holiday to charity for a raffle prize.

Now it seems like I can't even give away a weeks holiday lol

I just think the gold plated putter idea is neither practical from a golfing point of view nor overly impressive from a look at me point of view, it is extravagant and derogatory IMO.

If you could pull off the sponsorship then fair play but i'd imagine that this would be quite difficult.

It appears to me that the charity idea is merely thrown in to try and create awareness and beef up the numbers for your event/dream. Would all the excess raised be going to charity without any admin fee for organisation of this by you or your company? Would you get any rebate on the costs by using preferred suppliers (aka friends/colleagues) and would this rebate be going to charity or you or your company? It seems a bit suspect IMO.


IMO a charity event should originate with the idea of doing something good for charity not with a golfing event that is using charity to beef up the interest.

THEIRISHMOB

Redzah wrote: »

I just think the gold plated putter idea is neither practical from a golfing point of view nor overly impressive from a look at me point of view, it is extravagant and derogatory IMO.

If you could pull off the sponsorship then fair play but i'd imagine that this would be quite difficult.

It appears to me that the charity idea is merely thrown in to try and create awareness and beef up the numbers for your event/dream. Would all the excess raised be going to charity without any admin fee for organisation of this by you or your company? Would you get any rebate on the costs by using preferred suppliers (aka friends/colleagues) and would this rebate be going to charity or you or your company? It seems a bit suspect IMO.


IMO a charity event should originate with the idea of doing something good for charity not with a golfing event that is using charity to beef up the interest.

The putter is actually pratical as the face is not affected and can be used. I tested one last week as I am getting them for the main prize for another event I am organising.

Sponsorship is actually quite easy to get if you know how to. Again I have over 16 sponsors for the other event I ogranise.

The idea of the charity aspect was for 3 reasons:
1. To raise money for a charity I feel strongly about.
2. To help get sponsors on-board more easily and thus raises more money for the charity.
3. Apart from covering costs I would give all proceeds from the day and sponsorships to the charity.
Website would need to be set up, posters for all the clubs, letters,stamps, etc. There would be a lot of time put into it as you can imagine how hard it would be to contact all clubs.

Redzah

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

The putter is actually pratical as the face is not affected and can be used. I tested one last week as I am getting them for the main prize for another event I am organising.

Sponsorship is actually quite easy to get if you know how to. Again I have over 16 sponsors for the other event I ogranise.

The idea of the charity aspect was for 3 reasons:
1. To raise money for a charity I feel strongly about.
2. To help get sponsors on-board more easily and thus raises more money for the charity.
3. Apart from covering costs I would give all proceeds from the day and sponsorships to the charity.
Website would need to be set up, posters for all the clubs, letters,stamps, etc. There would be a lot of time put into it as you can imagine how hard it would be to contact all clubs.

Just seems suspect to me as there are numerous ways to manipule the 'costs', you could;

1. Charge a mark up of 10% on the cost as an admin fee
2. Use your own or your friends/colleagues website company and ask them to inflate costs (so u can benefit), poster company and receive a rebate personally for directing the business this way.
3. Allocate a cost, i.e. (your salary) to the time taken to contact all the clubs.

IMO if you want to try run this event as a golf event and make a few bucks then good luck but I think it is sinister to promote the charities name just to make yourself a bit more. I'd rather just make a direct donation to a trusted charity as then I know 100% of the funds will be used to fund the charity. In your case I'd be skeptical of how much the charity would be benefitting, nothing to do with you i'm just cynical about these things.

Good luck with the event if you press ahead with it and you could potentially make a few bucks from it but as i've outlined above it should not be masked as a charity event for the sake of it.

link_2007

Redzah wrote: »

Just seems suspect to me as there are numerous ways to manipule the 'costs', you could;

1. Charge a mark up of 10% on the cost as an admin fee
2. Use your own or your friends/colleagues website company and ask them to inflate costs (so u can benefit), poster company and receive a rebate personally for directing the business this way.
3. Allocate a cost, i.e. (your salary) to the time taken to contact all the clubs.

IMO if you want to try run this event as a golf event and make a few bucks then good luck but I think it is sinister to promote the charities name just to make yourself a bit more. I'd rather just make a direct donation to a trusted charity as then I know 100% of the funds will be used to fund the charity. In your case I'd be skeptical of how much the charity would be benefitting, nothing to do with you i'm just cynical about these things.

Good luck with the event if you press ahead with it and you could potentially make a few bucks from it but as i've outlined above it should not be masked as a charity event for the sake of it.

Spot the auditor......

THEIRISHMOB

Redzah wrote: »

Just seems suspect to me as there are numerous ways to manipule the 'costs', you could;

1. Charge a mark up of 10% on the cost as an admin fee
2. Use your own or your friends/colleagues website company and ask them to inflate costs (so u can benefit), poster company and receive a rebate personally for directing the business this way.
3. Allocate a cost, i.e. (your salary) to the time taken to contact all the clubs.

IMO if you want to try run this event as a golf event and make a few bucks then good luck but I think it is sinister to promote the charities name just to make yourself a bit more. I'd rather just make a direct donation to a trusted charity as then I know 100% of the funds will be used to fund the charity. In your case I'd be skeptical of how much the charity would be benefitting, nothing to do with you i'm just cynical about these things.

Good luck with the event if you press ahead with it and you could potentially make a few bucks from it but as i've outlined above it should not be masked as a charity event for the sake of it.

God is it illegal to run a business and make some money for charity at the same time? lol mad.

Every putter taken by each club for its members we would donate X amount 20-30euro per putter so if there is 350 golf clubs and each done it with one for ladies and one for men that would be 14-21,000euro for charity.

Would that be fair in your opinion or should we just forget the charity and I keep it...lol

So that would keep everything clear and above board.

Redzah

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

God is it illegal to run a business and make some money for charity at the same time? lol mad.

Every putter taken by each club for its members we would donate X amount 20-30euro per putter so if there is 350 golf clubs and each done it with one for ladies and one for men that would be 14-21,000euro for charity.

Would that be fair in your opinion or should we just forget the charity and I keep it...lol

So that would keep everything clear and above board.

All i'm saying is without the charity you don't have an event and you are utilising the charity line to create an event to make you money because if you eliminate the charity (in this case Make a wish) as the middle man and look at those who you are directly trying to help then you are taking a cut of their proceeds to line your pockets. You say that you will be covering costs but in reality you will be covering costs plus a % mark up and allocating the rest to charity. This is morally wrong in my opinion and running a business through the veil of a charitable event is not right.

Furthermore, you say that you will donate 20 -30 euro for per putter but what will probably happen is you will allocate an extra 20 -30 euro as a mark up on the cost of the putter and therefore pass the donation on to the members of the club who pay the subs and purchases your putter with your company marketing it as their donation to charity etc.

THEIRISHMOB

Redzah wrote: »

All i'm saying is without the charity you don't have an event and you are utilising the charity line to create an event to make you money because if you eliminate the charity (in this case Make a wish) as the middle man and look at those who you are directly trying to help then you are taking a cut of their proceeds to line your pockets. You say that you will be covering costs but in reality you will be covering costs plus a % mark up and allocating the rest to charity. This is morally wrong in my opinion and running a business through the veil of a charitable event is not right.

Furthermore, you say that you will donate 20 -30 euro for per putter but what will probably happen is you will allocate an extra 20 -30 euro as a mark up on the cost of the putter and therefore pass the donation on to the members of the club who pay the subs and purchases your putter with your company marketing it as their donation to charity etc.

HAHA shocking. Business in now illegal and immoral in Ireland.
Jesus Christ. I could make a business out of this event alone but I choose to help out a charity that I was exposed to earlier this year and it broke my heart.

So now I decide to try and do this and I get this sh*t.

Have you any idea how much 14,000 euro would make to a charity like this in times like this?

YES I am a businessman and I pay my bills by what I do not relying on others or the state. Give me a break. The Amateur Team World Cup of Golf event that I am organising this year is bringing in 200-300,000 euro of overseas tourism cash into the country. I am someone that does...you are someone that knocks.
I could have done this is Dubai, Thailand, China and got paid for it.

Comments about the putter and event concept only and maybe we can actually make a difference to some kids lifes (short lifes). or as my above friend would prefer..no one gets anything. I sometimes ask myself why I bother when I have to deal with people like this......!!!

Redzah

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

HAHA shocking. Business in now illegal and immoral in Ireland.
Jesus Christ. I could make a business out of this event alone but I choose to help out a charity that I was exposed to earlier this year and it broke my heart.

So now I decide to try and do this and I get this sh*t.

Have you any idea how much 14,000 euro would make to a charity like this in times like this?

YES I am a businessman and I pay my bills by what I do not relying on others or the state. Give me a break. The Amateur Team World Cup of Golf event that I am organising this year is bringing in 200-300,000 euro of overseas tourism cash into the country. I am someone that does...you are someone that knocks.
I could have done this is Dubai, Thailand, China and got paid for it.

Comments about the putter and event concept only and maybe we can actually make a difference to some kids lifes (short lifes). or as my above friend would prefer..no one gets anything. I sometimes ask myself why I bother when I have to deal with people like this......!!!

Conducting business under the veil of it being a charitable event for personal gain is immoral IMO. Yes I have a good idea how much 14,000 euro would help out a charity but far less than if you added your personal gain of 28,000 or whatever it is making it 42,000 etc which is what a registered charity would do.

A registered charity holds events and once direct expenses are deducted, all profits go to their cause, that's why they get a charitable status. You on the other hand are attempting to drive your business using a charitable donation as the key element and thus taking much needed funds from registered charities to line your pockets and give some of the left overs to the charity who basically acted as the marketing division for your company. You talk about helping a kid with a short life but then describe yourself as a businessman trying to make profit, contradiction city bud!

Quick odd one out question here;

Gold plated putter
1 weeks golf in thailand
Trip to masters
Sick dying child

If you want to run a golf event business then fair play, why not just give an anonymous donation after the event from te profits, the reason is because u need te charities name to make you more money which is wrong IMO.

THEIRISHMOB

Redzah wrote: »

Conducting business under the veil of it being a charitable event for personal gain is immoral IMO. Yes I have a good idea how much 14,000 euro would help out a charity but far less than if you added your personal gain of 28,000 or whatever it is making it 42,000 etc which is what a registered charity would do.

A registered charity holds events and once direct expenses are deducted, all profits go to their cause, that's why they get a charitable status. You on the other hand are attempting to drive your business using a charitable donation as the key element and thus taking much needed funds from registered charities to line your pockets and give some of the left overs to the charity who basically acted as the marketing division for your company. You talk about helping a kid with a short life but then describe yourself as a businessman trying to make profit, contradiction city bud!

Quick odd one out question here;

Gold plated putter
1 weeks golf in thailand
Trip to masters
Sick dying child

If you want to run a golf event business then fair play, why not just give an anonymous donation after the event from te profits, the reason is because u need te charities name to make you more money which is wrong IMO.

No Problem. Will run it just as a business venture and forget the charity.
Now happy? great attitude.

GreeBo

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

No Problem. Will run it just as a business venture and forget the charity.
Now happy? great attitude.

Unless you clearly show the costs that you will be taking out up front and state that the rest is for charity then you are always going to be facing questions about exactly how charitable you are being.

It sounds to me more like you are a business that will be making a (tax-free?) charitable donation.

TheDoc

Sandwlch wrote: »

Not a fan of it. Always has a whiff of suspicion of it being a 'Whose Handicap Was Most Incorrect at the Start of the Year Competition'.

Dont know how other clubs do it

But ours you gain points for your finishes in the monthly medals, captains and presidents prizes.

All strokes compeitions.

Dont ever remember a winner that I considered a bandit, was pretty much always the best players in our club having outragous seasons.

AldilaMan

TheDoc wrote: »

Dont know how other clubs do it

But ours you gain points for your finishes in the monthly medals, captains and presidents prizes.

All strokes compeitions.

Dont ever remember a winner that I considered a bandit, was pretty much always the best players in our club having outragous seasons.

You don't have to have an outragous season. You just need to play well in 4 or 5 medals (which means your playing quite well and consistent). With 15 points for the winner and 1 point for 15th place in each medal there are lots of points available. If you play about 1 shot better than your handicap which everyone is capable of you'll pick up 7 or 8 points. In the April medal net 73's got 13,12 and 11 points. It's just hard to keep scoring well in medals because there's always a banana skin waiting.

TheDoc

AldilaMan wrote: »

You don't have to have an outragous season. You just need to play well in 4 or 5 medals (which means your playing quite well and consistent). With 15 points for the winner and 1 point for 15th place in each medal there are lots of points available. If you play about 1 shot better than your handicap which everyone is capable of you'll pick up 7 or 8 points. In the April medal net 73's got 13,12 and 11 points. It's just hard to keep scoring well in medals because there's always a banana skin waiting.

Might have been a slight exaggeration my part, but I remember three of the previous winners being untouchable for a full season, and won a hefty amount of events

AldilaMan

TheDoc wrote: »

Might have been a slight exaggeration my part, but I remember three of the previous winners being untouchable for a full season, and won a hefty amount of events

Not me. 2nd in two stablefords, 3rd in Presidents (12 pts), Class 2 runner up in one medal (nett 71 - 5th best score getting 11pts), Class 1 runner up in another medal (nett 71 - 4th best score getting 12pts) and two other top 15's in medals.

GreeBo

AldilaMan wrote: »

Not me. 2nd in two stablefords, 3rd in Presidents (12 pts), Class 2 runner up in one medal (nett 71 - 5th best score getting 11pts), Class 1 runner up in another medal (nett 71 - 4th best score getting 12pts) and two other top 15's in medals.

Consistency wins GOTY always.

Redzah

GreeBo wrote: »

Unless you clearly show the costs that you will be taking out up front and state that the rest is for charity then you are always going to be facing questions about exactly how charitable you are being.

It sounds to me more like you are a business that will be making a (tax-free?) charitable donation.

Agree with the above, nothing wrong with a business making a charitable donation but using it to promote your event doesn't sit that well with me.

In relation to the putters. You may find it hard to sell these as in many clubs the golfer of the year is sponsored and the sponsors may not agree with being dictated who to buy the prizes off. For instance in my old club it was sponsored by a jeweller and thus the prize was a trophy and piece of jewellary. If the club instructed them to buy a gold putter, then they may as well go looking for a new sponsor next year who are willing to buy a gold putter as the prize (for which there may be few).

THEIRISHMOB

Sneek Preview of What these putter heads would look like.
These images are of the putter that the winning players in the upcoming
Amateur Team World Cup of Golf 2012 event in Kerry will get.
Nice trophy/prize me thinks....

THEIRISHMOB

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

Sneek Preview of What these putter heads would look like.
These images are of the putter that the winning players in the upcoming
Amateur Team World Cup of Golf 2012 event in Kerry will get.
Nice trophy/prize me thinks....

Just to let you know these putters are 24ct Gold plated. I personally would love one in my golf bag. Would you?

f22

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

Sneek Preview of What these putter heads would look like.
These images are of the putter that the winning players in the upcoming
Amateur Team World Cup of Golf 2012 event in Kerry will get.
Nice trophy/prize me thinks....

Just to let you know these putters are 24ct Gold plated. I personally would love one in my golf bag. Would you?

No to be honest, the only place that would go would be the attic or cashforgold.com. Tacky as f**k in my opinion.

If I'm club champion its a personal honour. I don't need anyone to acknowledge the fact and I most certainly don't need a glorified gold medallion to remind them.

Borisss

What a nasty prize.

I certainly don't protect my handicap this strenuously, to win something that tacky looking.

Also, not having a 'space' between 'June' and '11', looks bad. June11.

THEIRISHMOB

Borisss wrote: »

What a nasty prize.

I certainly don't protect my handicap this strenuously, to win something that tacky looking.

Also, not having a 'space' between 'June' and '11', looks bad. June11.

Now Borrisss: for all you golfers that hate my gold putters (typical Irish attitude, others would say well done for coming up with such a unique prize)

Redzah

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

Now Borrisss: for all you golfers that hate my gold putters (typical Irish attitude, others would say well done for coming up with such a unique prize)

Maybe other obnoxious and loud americans but if you're looking to have them as a prize for the IRISH golfer of the year comp that you dream of then you should prob take head of IRISH attitudes.

Is there a difference between the putter in these pics compared to the earlier ones that you've posted?

THEIRISHMOB

Redzah wrote: »

Maybe other obnoxious and loud americans but if you're looking to have them as a prize for the IRISH golfer of the year comp that you dream of then you should prob take head of IRISH attitudes.

Is there a difference between the putter in these pics compared to the earlier ones that you've posted?

THEY ARE THE SAME PUTTERS.
And I am Irish and we are famous for knocking our own. Always been that way.

So now Americans are the problem? why not just say "Nice Putter" rather than knock it, jesus, my point exactly.

I am bringing golf tourist cash into the country and try and get us out of the hole we are in.... 90% of the teams are overseas golfers coming to spend thousands here. or should I host it somewhere else next year?

Jul3s

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

Now Borrisss: for all you golfers that hate my gold putters (typical Irish attitude, others would say well done for coming up with such a unique prize)

Congratulations on your wonderful unique prize, it should go perfectly with my gold medallion necklace innit!.
I'll be the envy of all my pikey friends.

f22

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

THEY ARE THE SAME PUTTERS.
And I am Irish and we are famous for knocking our own. Always been that way.

So now Americans are the problem? why not just say "Nice Putter" rather than knock it, jesus, my point exactly.

I am bringing golf tourist cash into the country and try and get us out of the hole we are in.... 90% of the teams are overseas golfers coming to spend thousands here. or should I host it somewhere else next year?

It's not a nice putter, it's tacky and garish looking, aswell as having a typo as someone else pointed out. That's not begrudging, it's peoples opinion, and several by the sounds of things. Maybe accept that and come up with something more appealing for your next brainwave.

THEIRISHMOB

f22 wrote: »

It's not a nice putter, it's tacky and garish looking, aswell as having a typo as someone else pointed out. That's not begrudging, it's peoples opinion, and several by the sounds of things. Maybe accept that and come up with something more appealing for your next brainwave.

Brainwave?
Its amazing not one negative comment outside Ireland.
Just all Irish. I'm so suprised.

The typo is not a mistake and why the f**k would it bother you as you will not be playing in the event.?

f22

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

f22 wrote: »

It's not a nice putter, it's tacky and garish looking, aswell as having a typo as someone else pointed out. That's not begrudging, it's peoples opinion, and several by the sounds of things. Maybe accept that and come up with something more appealing for your next brainwave.

Brainwave?
Its amazing not one negative comment outside Ireland.
Just all Irish. I'm so suprised.

The typo is not a mistake and why the f**k would it bother you as you will not be playing in the event.?

Of course it's not a mistake......

I'm not one bit bothered, I gave my opinion and it seems to bother you quite a bit.

PhilipMarlowe

I too think it's hideous, (therefore?) I'm Irish.

Borisss

But wouldn't you love to have it in your bag?

It would outperform any Scotty/Ping/Odyessy, of this I have no doubt. Its gold.

'June11' no typo.