Correct way to address a Judge

Philm_12

What is the correct way to address a female judge in the High Court?

Is it "Judge" - the same as a male judge?

Hogzy

Philm_12 wrote: »

What is the correct way to address a female judge in the High Court?

Is it "Judge" - the same as a male judge?

All judges are addressed as 'Judge' unless its the chief justice (who is addressed as such)

Or you can address them as 'The Court'

Philm_12

Thank you - I won that argument here!!

murrayp4

You may also address the judge as 'breitheamh'

Procrastastudy

Sometimes Ms Justice XYZ but that is out of court.

Sometimes Your Lordship is used for male judges is there a femaly equivilant? My Lady would seem to tie in to My Lord both are equally odd. Your Ladyship - seems very odd.

crazygeryy

How do they address them in england?my lord and my lady is it ?

FreudianSlippers

GCDLawstudent wrote: »

Sometimes Ms Justice XYZ but that is out of court.

Sometimes Your Lordship is used for male judges is there a femaly equivilant? My Lady would seem to tie in to My Lord both are equally odd. Your Ladyship - seems very odd.

On circuit one will often hear m'lord used instead of Judge. It's m'lord whether it is a male or female judge (although I've never been in front of a female judge on the circuits on which I practise)

Ellis Dee

I always address the only judge I know by her first name. It's force of habit. She's my daughter.:):)

Brother Psychosis

the President of the Circuit and High Courts are sometimes addressed as President (perhaps in the District Court too but I've never seen that president)

m'lord applies to female judges too, but its only older people that address them as such. Everyone just uses Judge when addressing them and occasionally Mr/Ms Justice XYZ when referring to them while speaking to the jury if applicable

johnnyskeleton

Judgette and dollface are also acceptable.

FreudianSlippers

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Judgette and dollface are also acceptable.

The Dublin County Registrar also LOVES being called "County Reg'"

Victor

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

The Dublin County Registrar also LOVES being called "County Reg'"

I presume they are addressed as "Registrar" in person or as "... City/County Registrar" when not present.

McCrack

Some older barristers will say m'lud but normally it's just "Judge"

nuac

M'lord is not longer used.

Apart from Presidents of Courts or Chief Justice, it's always "Judge".

If case is in Irish it is "A Bhreithimh" or "A Breithimh" depending in judge's gender.

nuac

nuac wrote: »

M'lord should no longer be used.

FYP.

It's still used every day although the rules provide otherwise. Old habits die hard.

mikemac1

When I was in court everyone said Judge and when I had to speak all I did was "Nothing to say Judge"

Before the judge entered the clerk told us all to address him as judge.

"Good morning"
"Good morning Judge" the entire room replied

Was like being back in primary school again

GCDLawstudent wrote: »

Sometimes Your Lordship is used for male judges

Not anymore you don't
But people have used similar for decades and all their career so yeah, it still goes on

Victor

mikemac1 wrote: »

"Good morning"
"Good morning Judge" the entire room replied

Good morning O'Brien.

Tom Young

Your Majesty was the best one I heard in the Bridewell some years ago.

NoQuarter

Ive been studying law for 5 years and I still struggle not to say "your honour" most times... damn you Judge Judy!

Victor

How are other parties addressed or referred to?

Complainant
Plaintiff
Defendant
Accused
Convicted
Solicitor - prosecution / defence
JC - prosecution / defence
SC - prosecution / defence
Garda
Witnesses

I was a witness once and when I was asked to explained what had happened I had a freak out moment, not knowing how to refer to the accused (as opposed to the "guy in the orange jump suit") - judge was happy enough with the word.

Kosseegan

Victor wrote: »

How are other parties addressed or referred to?

Complainant
Plaintiff
Defendant
Accused
Convicted
Solicitor - prosecution / defence
JC - prosecution / defence
SC - prosecution / defence
Garda
Witnesses

I was a witness once and when I was asked to explained what had happened I had a freak out moment, not knowing how to refer to the accused (as opposed to the "guy in the orange jump suit") - judge was happy enough with the word.

It is BL rather than JC.
Applicant
Appellant
Respondent

Procrastastudy

My friend for the XYZ?

GCDLawstudent

GCDLawstudent wrote: »

My friend for the XYZ?

If you know their name it's "Mr. Murphy" etc. For young practitioners in particular that is appreciated as it gets their name said in front of solicitors, on circuit more so than the High Court but the point stands.

nuac

"My friend" for the opposing lawyer, whether solicitor or barrister.

"My learned friend" - for use when the opposing lawyer has got his/her law or facts wrong

"with respect Judge" - when you consider the judge has gone off on an irrelevant tangent

"with the greatest of respect Judge" when you consider the judge has really got it badly wrong

"judge could we have a few moments?" for use when the judge has really lost it, and everybody realises it, including the judge.

The brief sos is to give the judge a chance to recover the position.

When using above strategems it helps if you have been practising in that court long before the judge left school. Neophytes should take care. Judges have long memories

Procrastastudy

Moot Courts ONLY:

"I belive that case turned very much on it's own facts."

- You've been give a moot problem that was clearly just lifted from a case and have been assigned the losing side.

OR

-You've not done the reseach and the case you just relied on has been overtunred.

"There-in lies the inponderable Judge"

-You don't know and need to make it look like you have a clue. Needs to be moved on from quickly!

Thanks to the GCD mooting coach, who shall remain anonymous, for that one

GCDLawstudent

GCDLawstudent wrote: »

Moot Courts ONLY:

"I belive that case turned very much on it's own facts."

- You've been give a moot problem that was clearly just lifted from a case and have been assigned the losing side.

OR

-You've not done the reseach and the case you just relied on has been overtunred.

"There-in lies the inponderable Judge"

-You don't know and need to make it look like you have a clue. Needs to be moved on from quickly!

Thanks to the GCD mooting coach, who shall remain anonymous, for that one

Anyone ever using one of these in a moot would lose spectacularly unless, of course, the case did turn on its own facts.

As for the latter comment... It is definitely best that the GCD mooting coach remain anonymous.

Procrastastudy

Jesus Kayroo take a joke! The explanations were clearly directed at people taking the piss.