Back in the drum stool. Advice ?

Heckler

Hi,

I haven't picked up a stick in about 10 years but might be drumming again soon with a band whos drummer has legged it. My old kit is in bits so i'll be needing to pick up another one. Thing is I've been out of the game so long I have no idea what to look for. I was hoping someone could have a gander here :

http://www.adverts.ie/for-sale/music-instruments-equipment/drums/drum-kits/432/

and maybe give me some ideas as to what might be a good deal. Kit would need to be gig worthy and include hardware and cymbals. Ideally less than or around the 900-1000k mark tops.

I'd really appreciate any advice,

Thanks.

Chikablam

Your best bet would be to avoid all the second hand stuff, for a grand you can get a full new kit on thomann.de
Do you need to buy mics as well?

flyswatter

Chikablam wrote: »

Your best bet would be to avoid all the second hand stuff, for a grand you can get a full new kit on thomann.de
Do you need to buy mics as well?

Why exactly?

Second hand is often the way to go these days.

The Gretsch Catalinas are great kits for the money. They go for around 500+ new (The jazz kits). The rock design is more expensive (bigger bass drum etc). Of course the title of the kits doesn't mean they only suit said genre!

Chikablam

Because in my experience, second hand is often awful.

Heckler

Hi,

I don't need mics but was thinking along the secondhand line. Obviously I'd have to try any kit out before buying. Problem with the 2nd hand kits is most of them don't come with cymbals or hats. Its a rock band i'd need it for if that influences choice at all.

Chikablam

Well in that case, we'd need to know what county, as most people don't post drums
I'm gonna assume it's dublin though.
This kit looks nice, and it's cheap. Doesn't come with cymbals but leaves plenty of room in the budget for them.
Another fairly decent one, comes with ride, hi hat, and chinas, but no crash....which is very odd....
Best value one though is probably this. Seems to come with everything

flyswatter

Chikablam wrote: »

Well in that case, we'd need to know what county, as most people don't post drums
I'm gonna assume it's dublin though.
This kit looks nice, and it's cheap. Doesn't come with cymbals but leaves plenty of room in the budget for them.
Another fairly decent one, comes with ride, hi hat, and chinas, but no crash....which is very odd....
Best value one though is probably this. Seems to come with everything

I'd avoid that one to be honest, Staggs kit's are beginner budget kits, used to have one, not very good, you get what you pay for and not up to gigging as the OP said.

Demeyes

I'd recommend buying your kit used and getting a few half decent new cymbals. Start with maybe 1 crash,ride and hats and work your way to getting more when you get the money. There is no point investing in really cheap cymbals as they sound bad and probably won't last long. Meinl might not have been around when you stopped playing but they are up there with Sabian, paiste and zildjian now and well worth looking into.
Also might be worth your while getting a nice snare from the off instead of getting a cheap one that comes with the kit. Also when you get your new kit it might be worth getting someone who knows what they are doing to give it a full reskin and tune. From my experience this can turn an average kit into a lovely sounding one while someone just tightening everything up with no idea what they are doing can turn an expensive kit into a terrible sounding thing!

Heckler

I'm in Cork but can travel if I see the right kit.

Any opinions on the kits on www.thomann.de ? Seem very cheap.

Also i'd be looking at a five piece at most and a good snare would be great

Chikablam

I really do encourage Thomann.
Here's the kit that I got, and I can vouch for it, really great kit. Bass is top knotch, snare is great, and the toms are epic fun rolling down the 4 of them. Comes with 2 cymbal stands and a hi hat stand, but no cymbals, in which case I think these would be a good choice, 2 crashes, hi hat and ride. The only problem with all this is you might need another cymbal stand, but if you can do without a second crash or ride you'll be fine.

Hmm,this one seems to be pretty good value, from what I can make, it's:
2x Bass Drum, 2x Floor Toms, 2x Rack Toms, 1x Snare, 3x Cymbal Stands, 1x Hi Hat Stand, as well as sticks and seat.

flyswatter

Yeah, Thomann's good. I usually find the UK stores are cheaper than Thomann though. Sometimes a lot cheaper. Google products uk is a good site to use where you can compare prices of UK stores.

Heckler

Thanks for the links. They look good alright but i'd be wary of buying a kit without hearing it first. Am I right in seeing on the website that they ship full kits to Ireland for only 15euro ?

The cymbal set in particular looks like great value. I still have a few servicable stands from my old kit that would do the job for a while.

Thinking now I might try for a secondhand kit here and pair it up with that cymbal set. Gonna stay away from double bass drums at the moment. I'll have trouble enough with one i'd say !

Chikablam

I think it's free on purchases over 50 or something...

Well don't forget how much some simple moongel or even ductape works on improving the sound of a kit