Prince Harry [not] coming to Galway for Volvo Ocean race

bensweeney

Great news for Galway and well done to the FG councillor! great coup

Thoie

bensweeney wrote: »

and well done to the FG councillor! great coup

... for giving birth to a member of the UK royalty? For organising an ocean beside Galway? For kidnapping the heir to Volvo?

What exactly did a FG councillor do?

touts

Thoie wrote: »

... for giving birth to a member of the UK royalty? For organising an ocean beside Galway? For kidnapping the heir to Volvo?

What exactly did a FG councillor do?

Probably just what most councillors do. Be the first councillor to get the press release out claiming credit for a decision made by someone else.

_petulia_

It was on the Connacht Tribune Group's twitter earlier that this was a hoax. Buckingham Palace said that the letter received by a city councillor was a fake.

MadYaker

If its true i look forward to having a few lines of cocaine with him in the toilets of CPs

Diabhal Beag

The Jewish Association of Galway (JAG) will not be happy

galwayrush

Maybe he was meant to be visiting, but someone jumping the gun with an announcement made it impossible from a security point of view...

celty

Sums up all that's wrong with Irish politics ...

Politician hears that something is about to happen . . . rushes out a press release . . . goes on the radio and hits the papers . . . turns out it has nothing to do with him and he was actually WRONG.

Funny how they don't go rushing to the papers with 'bad' news stories . . . but they rush to take the 'credit' for 'good' news.

I'm glad it was a hoax. Who needs all that extra security down at the Volvo Village?
!!

antoobrien

Prince Harry has military commitments that will keep him from having a party in Galway for the VOR.

Everybody: awww

And I was hoping to have fun winding people up about this.

liabhroidi

Story not a hoax but organisers aghast that details were leaked to local media. Was mentioned at Cabinet level two weeks ago. Denials from London came from Buck Palace but it is Clarence House who handles Prince Harry's affairs.

Sponge Bob

liabhroidi wrote: »

Story not a hoax .

The story IS A HOAX. Now stop spinning on behalf of the Volvo Marketing assistants who leaked it wholesale. Organisers are "aghast" that they got caught doing so. "Cabinet Level" my eye.

The Hoax letter from an unknown source was sent to the council and somehow came to the 'attention' of Pádraig Conneely but the real leaking came from marketing idiots on Facebook.

http://www.galwaynews.ie/25426-city-councillor-disappointed-over-prince-harry-hoax

The City Councillor who announced that Prince Harry was to visit Galway this Summer says he's 'disappointed' the letter from Buckingham palace is a hoax.


City Council received a letter with a Buckingham letter head last week, outling that Prince Harry was interested in visiting Galway during the Volvo Ocean race finale.

Ho Ho Ho!

Sorry...... it is not December time is it???

afrodub

Ahhh well and he would have been so at home what with all the gingers they got in Galway ...Lulz

Hyperbullet

Ah well. No chance of some huge tabloid story involving him and some dirty yoke of a woman in the jacks of CPs. Maybe next year.

Wompa1

Great Professionalism on show by the local councillors again. Pathetic. Didn't even think to verify it first.

BhoscaCapall

Thoroughly embarrassing that anybody in this country could actually be impressed by something like this.

Wompa1

I guess some people find royalty endearing?

BhoscaCapall

Wompa1 wrote: »

I guess some people find royalty endearing?

Fine Gael types probably do.

Wompa1

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Fine Gael types probably do.

You are living in the past if you are trying to paint the FG supporters as some kind of Monarchy lovers...I wouldn't have been excited about him coming over at all but wouldn't oppose it. If somebody wants to visit Galway and spend money then have at it. It's not like he's moving over and trying to stay illegally or bringing drugs in or something, he'd just be visiting and spending money. We need tourists more now than ever...

BhoscaCapall

I'm sure you can appreciate that some people care about more than just Euros.

Lapin

Wompa1 wrote: »

You are living in the past if you are trying to paint the FG supporters as some kind of Monarchy lovers...I wouldn't have been excited about him coming over at all but wouldn't oppose it. If somebody wants to visit Galway and spend money then have at it. It's not like he's moving over and trying to stay illegally or bringing drugs in or something, he'd just be visiting and spending money. We need tourists more now than ever...

I wouldn't put that past him.

Personally I'd rather spend my time at the Volvo in the company of Prince Harry than councillor Pádraig Conneely.

Wompa1

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

I'm sure you can appreciate that some people care about more than just Euros.

See how much food your ideals will get you. I know what you are saying but when it comes down to it, we aren't in the early 1900's anymore or even the 80's. Civilization has advanced hugely since even the 80's. It seems to me the majority of Irish people have long since realized extremism isn't the answer and can work within democratic means. People in Ireland have grown a large sense of entitlment you just have to browse this site to figure that out, what people think are their "human rights" is unreal. Right now in Ireland we all want to work and take care of ourselves and to do that we needs jobs and money. Tourism creates jobs. Prince Harry coming here, whether you like him or not would bring in even more tourists.

Also Prince Harry did not do anything against the Irish people. If my dad was in the IRA I wouldn't be happy with people assuming I was in some way responsible for his actions.

empacher

be careful if he tries to use sterling money. I heard a sasanach coin can burn a hole through an Irish man's hand.

BhoscaCapall

Wompa1 wrote: »

See how much food your ideals will get you. I know what you are saying but when it comes down to it, we aren't in the early 1900's anymore or even the 80's. Civilization has advanced hugely since even the 80's. It seems to me the majority of Irish people have long since realized extremism isn't the answer and can work within democratic means. People in Ireland have grown a large sense of entitlment you just have to browse this site to figure that out, what people think are their "human rights" is unreal. Right now in Ireland we all want to work and take care of ourselves and to do that we needs jobs and money. Tourism creates jobs. Prince Harry coming here, whether you like him or not would bring in even more tourists.

Also Prince Harry did not do anything against the Irish people. If my dad was in the IRA I wouldn't be happy with people assuming I was in some way responsible for his actions.

I thought you might try and pin this on Republicanism. So predictable.

Here are 750, 000 people who oppose the British Army's crimes in the Middle East

English people, in London, in 2003. Not "early 1900s" Ireland.

Here is the second lieutenantof the Royal Horse Guards, a regiment in the British Army


Here he is begging to be sent to an illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan

Cowardly, murdering scum. Not welcome in Galway, not welcome in Ireland.

ben.schlomo

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

I thought you might try and pin this on Republicanism. So predictable.

Here are 750, 000 people who oppose the British Army's crimes in the Middle East

English people, in London, in 2003. Not "early 1900s" Ireland.

Here is the second lieutenantof the Royal Horse Guards, a regiment in the British Army


Here he is begging to be sent to an illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan

Cowardly, murdering scum. Not welcome in Galway, not welcome in Ireland.

You didnt want Obama here last year so i suppose given your anti war standing? Should probably tell the Brits where to stick there share of the EU bailout we got too.:rolleyes:

BhoscaCapall

ben.schlomo wrote: »

You didnt want Obama here last year so i suppose given your anti war standing? Should probably tell the Brits where to stick there share of the EU bailout we got too.:rolleyes:

Correct.

Happy Monday

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Wompa1 wrote: »

See how much food your ideals will get you. I know what you are saying but when it comes down to it, we aren't in the early 1900's anymore or even the 80's. Civilization has advanced hugely since even the 80's. It seems to me the majority of Irish people have long since realized extremism isn't the answer and can work within democratic means. People in Ireland have grown a large sense of entitlment you just have to browse this site to figure that out, what people think are their "human rights" is unreal. Right now in Ireland we all want to work and take care of ourselves and to do that we needs jobs and money. Tourism creates jobs. Prince Harry coming here, whether you like him or not would bring in even more tourists.

Also Prince Harry did not do anything against the Irish people. If my dad was in the IRA I wouldn't be happy with people assuming I was in some way responsible for his actions.

I thought you might try and pin this on Republicanism. So predictable.

Here are 750, 000 people who oppose the British Army's crimes in the Middle East

English people, in London, in 2003. Not "early 1900s" Ireland.

Here is the second lieutenantof the Royal Horse Guards, a regiment in the British Army


Here he is begging to be sent to an illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan

Cowardly, murdering scum. Not welcome in Galway, not welcome in Ireland.

The invasion of Afghanistan was legal.

The continued involvement of ISAF in that country is also legal and permitted by the government of that country.

British rule in Northern Ireland is also legal.
As is the presence of British troops in that part of their kingdom.

Lapin

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Cowardly, murdering scum. Not welcome in Galway, not welcome in Ireland.

So. By your rationale, Captain Justin Kennedy Lunde of The Queen's Royal Hussars, currently serving in Helmand province, is no longer welcome in his home county of Waterford ?

That a bit rich of you is it not ?

the keen edge

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Cowardly, murdering scum. Not welcome in Galway, not welcome in Ireland.

Not welcome by you that is.

As you seem to be trying to portray yourself as the voice of democracy, you might kindly qualify such a statement as being your own personnel opinion.

There is over 4.5 million citizens in this state who are more than able to say who they wish to welcome to Galway and Ireland.
They vast majority of whom do not agree with your opinion.

BhoscaCapall

the keen edge wrote: »

Not welcome by you that is.

As you seem to be trying to portray yourself as the voice of democracy, you might kindly qualify such a statement as being your own personnel opinion.

There is over 4.5 million citizens in this state who are more than able to say who they wish to welcome to Galway and Ireland.
They vast majority of whom do not agree with your opinion.

Thank you for clarifying that I do not hold a monopoly over the opinions of every citizen of this country. I was under the impression that you had to be at least 13 to register on here, therefore presumed that every single opinion did not need a big disclaimer attached to them to make it abundantly clear that it was an opinion. I cannot promise that I'll remember to cater for your special needs with all my future posts but I will certainly try my best.

the keen edge

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Thank you for clarifying that I do not hold a monopoly over the opinions of every citizen of this country. I was under the impression that you had to be at least 13 to register on here, therefore presumed that every single opinion did not need a big disclaimer attached to them to make it abundantly clear that it was an opinion. I cannot promise that I'll remember to cater for your special needs with all my future posts but I will certainly try my best.

You came on here, prattling on about how Prince Harry, cowardly, murdering scum, is not welcome in Galway, not welcome in Ireland.
And how thoroughly embarrassing it is that anybody in this country could actually be impressed with him, supposedly, wanting to come here to Galway.

Those old sound bites might impress the teenage girls in the playground, but frankly it's just waffling BS. Demonstrated by the fact that when taken up on it all you can respond with is some smarmy, sarcastic BS lines that yet again fail to further your opinions.

Wompa1

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

I thought you might try and pin this on Republicanism. So predictable.

Here are 750, 000 people who oppose the British Army's crimes in the Middle East

English people, in London, in 2003. Not "early 1900s" Ireland.

Here is the second lieutenantof the Royal Horse Guards, a regiment in the British Army


Here he is begging to be sent to an illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan

Cowardly, murdering scum. Not welcome in Galway, not welcome in Ireland.

Republicanism is usually evident when somebody vehemently hates the Brits and implies Fine Gael supporters are somehow in bed with them. Tell me you don't support Sinn Fein! Make my day

Otherwise I guess it's not the Brits you hate at all? It's countries that enter into war? Is that every country that's ever entered into war? Or just the big ones?

bwatson

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

I thought you might try and pin this on Republicanism. So predictable.

Here are 750, 000 people who oppose the British Army's crimes in the Middle East

English people, in London, in 2003. Not "early 1900s" Ireland.

Here is the second lieutenantof the Royal Horse Guards, a regiment in the British Army


Here he is begging to be sent to an illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan

Cowardly, murdering scum. Not welcome in Galway, not welcome in Ireland.

I'm not sure I have ever seen so many mistakes in one short post!

Firstly, the picture you describe as "people who oppose the British Army's crimes in the Middle East" are actually people who opposed the British Government's decision to participate in the Second Iraq War. I am very certain that the majority (which included former servicemen) had no ill feeling towards the members of the British Armed Forces being sent to Iraq by the Labour government. Furthermore, seeing as the particular picture was taken before the invasion, it is simply not possible that they are opposing war crimes carried out by British servicemen.

Secondly, there is no such thing as an illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. I believe however you are referring to, and I quote, the "NATO led security mission in Afghanistan established by the UNSC on 20 December 2001 by Resolution 1386 as envisaged by the Bonn Agreement". You may also want to remember that the Irish Permanent Defence Force is an active contributor of soldiers to the mission. Are Irish military personnel still allowed to visit Galway?

Thirdly, there is no longer a regiment named the Royal Horse Guards. There has not been a regiment named the RHG for decades. Prince Harry joined the Blues and Royals (Royal Horse Guards and 1st Dragoons). Added to that there is no rank of second lieutenant in the Blues and Royals, so you were wrong there also!

Mollie Breathna

Can we go back to the substantive point maybe? Does no-one mind at all that Cllr. Conneely has been caught out blatantly lying?
On Thursday, there's this:

The process of bringing the Prince to Galway was set in train some weeks ago by Fine Gael councillor Pádraig Conneely, who was mayor during the Volvo Ocean Race stopover in 2009. Cllr Conneely has maintained contact with the crews and organisers of the event since his tenure as mayor, and was informed that the British royal was a strong supporter of the ocean race.
“I have kept in touch with many of the people I met during the last event in 2009, some of whom know Prince Harry personally,” Cllr Conneely told the Galway Advertiser. “It was suggested to me that he would warmly welcome the opportunity to come to Galway for the finale.”
Cllr Conneely subsequently made enquiries through the British diplomatic service and was in contact with the Taoiseach’s office to notify them of the circumstances. Since then the Fine Gael councillor has learned that there has been “engagement at the highest diplomatic level, and it is just a matter of protocol before a visit is confirmed”.
http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/51349/volvo-gets-royal-boost-as-prince-harry-keen-to-attend-galway-finale

Then on Friday we have this:

CITY COUNCILLOR DISAPPOINTED OVER PRINCE HARRY HOAX
April 20, 2012 - 12:10pm
The City Councillor who announced that Prince Harry was to visit Galway this Summer says he's 'disappointed' the letter from Buckingham palace is a hoax.
City Council received a letter with a Buckingham letter head last week, outlining that Prince Harry was interested in visiting Galway during the Volvo Ocean race finale.
However, a spokesperson for the Royal family has confirmed to Galway Bay FM News that there 'are no plans for the Prince to visit Galway'.
Councillor Padraig Conneely says it's disappointing news.

http://www.galwaynews.ie/25426-city-councillor-disappointed-over-prince-harry-hoax

So, it's his initiative one day and he's the victim of a hoax the next?
Is it acceptable for an elected politician to blatantly lie because it's only showing off and sure, it's only Conneely?
Oh, alright so, nothing to see here.

Happy Monday

Mollie Breathna wrote: »

Can we go back to the substantive point maybe? Does no-one mind at all that Cllr. Conneely has been caught out blatantly lying?
On Thursday, there's this:

The process of bringing the Prince to Galway was set in train some weeks ago by Fine Gael councillor Pádraig Conneely, who was mayor during the Volvo Ocean Race stopover in 2009. Cllr Conneely has maintained contact with the crews and organisers of the event since his tenure as mayor, and was informed that the British royal was a strong supporter of the ocean race.
“I have kept in touch with many of the people I met during the last event in 2009, some of whom know Prince Harry personally,” Cllr Conneely told the Galway Advertiser. “It was suggested to me that he would warmly welcome the opportunity to come to Galway for the finale.”
Cllr Conneely subsequently made enquiries through the British diplomatic service and was in contact with the Taoiseach’s office to notify them of the circumstances. Since then the Fine Gael councillor has learned that there has been “engagement at the highest diplomatic level, and it is just a matter of protocol before a visit is confirmed”.
http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/51349/volvo-gets-royal-boost-as-prince-harry-keen-to-attend-galway-finale

Then on Friday we have this:

CITY COUNCILLOR DISAPPOINTED OVER PRINCE HARRY HOAX
April 20, 2012 - 12:10pm
The City Councillor who announced that Prince Harry was to visit Galway this Summer says he's 'disappointed' the letter from Buckingham palace is a hoax.
City Council received a letter with a Buckingham letter head last week, outlining that Prince Harry was interested in visiting Galway during the Volvo Ocean race finale.
However, a spokesperson for the Royal family has confirmed to Galway Bay FM News that there 'are no plans for the Prince to visit Galway'.
Councillor Padraig Conneely says it's disappointing news.

http://www.galwaynews.ie/25426-city-councillor-disappointed-over-prince-harry-hoax

So, it's his initiative one day and he's the victim of a hoax the next?
Is it acceptable for an elected politician to blatantly lie because it's only showing off and sure, it's only Conneely?
Oh, alright so, nothing to see here.

Water off a duck's back for a man like Padraig Conneely.

ben.schlomo

Mollie Breathna wrote: »

Can we go back to the substantive point maybe? Does no-one mind at all that Cllr. Conneely has been caught out blatantly lying?
On Thursday, there's this:

The process of bringing the Prince to Galway was set in train some weeks ago by Fine Gael councillor Pádraig Conneely, who was mayor during the Volvo Ocean Race stopover in 2009. Cllr Conneely has maintained contact with the crews and organisers of the event since his tenure as mayor, and was informed that the British royal was a strong supporter of the ocean race.
“I have kept in touch with many of the people I met during the last event in 2009, some of whom know Prince Harry personally,” Cllr Conneely told the Galway Advertiser. “It was suggested to me that he would warmly welcome the opportunity to come to Galway for the finale.”
Cllr Conneely subsequently made enquiries through the British diplomatic service and was in contact with the Taoiseach’s office to notify them of the circumstances. Since then the Fine Gael councillor has learned that there has been “engagement at the highest diplomatic level, and it is just a matter of protocol before a visit is confirmed”.
http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/51349/volvo-gets-royal-boost-as-prince-harry-keen-to-attend-galway-finale

Then on Friday we have this:

CITY COUNCILLOR DISAPPOINTED OVER PRINCE HARRY HOAX
April 20, 2012 - 12:10pm
The City Councillor who announced that Prince Harry was to visit Galway this Summer says he's 'disappointed' the letter from Buckingham palace is a hoax.
City Council received a letter with a Buckingham letter head last week, outlining that Prince Harry was interested in visiting Galway during the Volvo Ocean race finale.
However, a spokesperson for the Royal family has confirmed to Galway Bay FM News that there 'are no plans for the Prince to visit Galway'.
Councillor Padraig Conneely says it's disappointing news.

http://www.galwaynews.ie/25426-city-councillor-disappointed-over-prince-harry-hoax

So, it's his initiative one day and he's the victim of a hoax the next?
Is it acceptable for an elected politician to blatantly lie because it's only showing off and sure, it's only Conneely?
Oh, alright so, nothing to see here.

Politician in outlandish claim shocker, what next. Par for the course really.

JohnCleary

Am I the only one who is glad he is NOT coming? My main reason being tightened security. The last thing I want is to be quizzed by half a dozen goons in cheap suits when all I want to do is sit on me feckin' boat and have a BBQ

Funk It

Ah sure Conneely will have his picture in the Galway papers standing next to random objects around the city again and get the people of Galway back on his side.

Being honest, when I first heard the news that Prince Harry was to visit I thought that it would be a good thing, showing that we had moved on a bit as a country, especially Galway as it is a city of tourism and diversity.

sword of light

"Galway- Windsor free since 1903"

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/the-day-the-british-king-arrived-drunk-for-his-grand-tour-of-dublin-2547200.html

The royal motor wasn't up to the roads of west Galway it looks like. Seeming as he's originally from Connemara, Cllr Conneely missed the potentially best photo opportunity of the last century......

"Local Councillor rescues royal family, critcizies County Council for failing to deal with potholes"

dloob

sword of light wrote: »

"Galway- Windsor free since 1903"

Windsor are just of the Monivea road, been there since 94

Sponge Bob

Hildegaarde steps in. I take it she told Conneely to shuddup this time.

http://www.galwaynews.ie/25526-invitation-royal-family-wake-galway-hoax

"We would – and did – treat that request, which we now know was a hoax, with the strictest of confidence for obvious security reasons. "

She did ....but Pádraig 'Security Breach' Conneely didn't.

"Let’s Do Global, confirmed that the invitation to the British royal family had been posted"

Ahhhh.

Mollie Breathna wrote: »

Does no-one mind at all that Cllr. Conneely has been caught out blatantly lying?
On Thursday, there's this:

The process of bringing the Prince to Galway was set in train some weeks ago by Fine Gael councillor Pádraig Conneely, who was mayor during the Volvo Ocean Race stopover in 2009.
Cllr Conneely subsequently made enquiries through the British diplomatic service and was in contact with the Taoiseach’s office to notify them of the circumstances.
http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/51349/volvo-gets-royal-boost-as-prince-harry-keen-to-attend-galway-finale

Then on Friday we have this:

"The City Councillor who announced that Prince Harry was to visit Galway this Summer says he's 'disappointed' the letter from Buckingham palace is a hoax.
City Council received a letter with a Buckingham letter head last week, outlining that Prince Harry was interested in visiting Galway during the Volvo Ocean race finale."

http://www.galwaynews.ie/25426-city-councillor-disappointed-over-prince-harry-hoax

So, it's his initiative one day and he's the victim of a hoax the next?

fishy fishy

he's not coming
better all round
end of!

G Power

Happy Monday wrote: »

The invasion of Afghanistan was legal.

was/is it?

biko

I'm not entirely sure how you managed to find this old thread but if you want to argue about British presence in Afghanistan an old Volvo Ocean race thread in Galway city forum isn't the place.