Selecting A Shaft type

EauRouge79

Hi,
I am looking to buy a new set of clubs in the next month or so but have no idea as to what benefits selecting a particular type of shaft might have.

I play off 7 but tend only to play competitive golf in the summer. My handicap might be a better reflection of the fact that I used to play more regularly a couple of years back.

As a background
My long game is inconsistent, short game is my strong point. In my early 30's with relatively slow swing speed and when swinging slowly tend to fade the ball. The faster I swing the straighter it tends to go!
Clubs at the moment:
Ping G5 driver - regular flex
2 Srixon Hybrids - regular flex
Taylor Made RAC irons - regular steel shafts.

Any pointers would be great.

Thanks

Tones69

Well if you're off 7, a slow swing and ur happy with ur current reg flex shafts then why change? Unless you wanna lower your flight or whatever id stay with whats working for you Theres about 10 diff types of reg and stiff flex throughout the different companies

matt-dublin

you need to go get fitted, we cant tell you what type of shaft, weight or flex you need without proper equipment. Whats stands out to me though is i think your shafts for be at least a stiff flex, regular shafts imo would be for players with a sub 85 swing speed (the guys who can only make a 3/4 swing)

if you go to american golf in dundrum tell them you're interested in a driver and you want to get fitted, they've a launch monitor there and can check your stats. That will kick you off in the right direction.

Tones69

matt-dublin wrote: »

you need to go get fitted, we cant tell you what type of shaft, weight or flex you need without proper equipment. Whats stands out to me though is i think your shafts for be at least a stiff flex, regular shafts imo would be for players with a sub 85 swing speed (the guys who can only make a 3/4 swing)

if you go to american golf in dundrum tell them you're interested in a driver and you want to get fitted, they've a launch monitor there and can check your stats. That will kick you off in the right direction.

Ive a 3/4 swing dude and my 6i ss is 95/96/97 (112/115 driver) Load the shaft, fast transition..Its actually the opposite, the faster quicker transition swinger will need a slightly stiffer shaft than a full/smoother swing

matt-dublin

you must be putting your back our of joint with that Tones,

The average PGA swing speed is 105-115 and woods/mcilroy float around the 125 mark.

a fairly good way to measure is take your average driver distance (based on good consistent ball strikes) and divide by 2.7

golfnut1

matt-dublin wrote: »

you must be putting your back our of joint with that Tones,

The average PGA swing speed is 105-115 and woods/mcilroy float around the 125 mark.

a fairly good way to measure is take your average driver distance (based on good consistent ball strikes) and divide by 2.7

I don't think that figure is applicable to Ireland

alxmorgan

golfnut1 wrote: »

I don't think that figure is applicable to Ireland

I wish it was !!
Seriously need to work on my driving. My 100 mph driver swing turns into not much more than 220-230 average :rolleyes:

matt-dublin

then you're not striking the ball properly or you're definilty not swinging 100

Tones69

matt-dublin wrote: »

you must be putting your back our of joint with that Tones,

The average PGA swing speed is 105-115 and woods/mcilroy float around the 125 mark.

a fairly good way to measure is take your average driver distance (based on good consistent ball strikes) and divide by 2.7

No just always the way i swing comfortably, always 3/4 swing with a fast transition, trying to extend it a little and slow it down but tough to do when natural tempo is quick. Well aware of the average pga swing speeds ha. Think its divide by 2.5, same as multiplying your ss by 2.5 for distance

golfnut1

alxmorgan wrote: »

golfnut1 wrote: »

I don't think that figure is applicable to Ireland

I wish it was !!
Seriously need to work on my driving. My 100 mph driver swing turns into not much more than 220-230 average :rolleyes:

Nothing wrong with those figures. I have a ss of about 103mph and. A smash factor of about 1.46 average and a good smack gets me out 240 yards. 220-240 is about average for this climate (winter anyway).
The same swing would get you about 270+ in some warm country.
Que the I hit it 300 yards debate again

k.p.h

You are the type of player that could really make use of a fitting, you should really consider it, very good chance you could find a couple of shots with a more precise setup.

searay

EauRouge79 wrote: »

Hi,
I am looking to buy a new set of clubs in the next month or so but have no idea as to what benefits selecting a particular type of shaft might have.

I play off 7 but tend only to play competitive golf in the summer. My handicap might be a better reflection of the fact that I used to play more regularly a couple of years back.

As a background
My long game is inconsistent, short game is my strong point. In my early 30's with relatively slow swing speed and when swinging slowly tend to fade the ball. The faster I swing the straighter it tends to go!
Clubs at the moment:
Ping G5 driver - regular flex
2 Srixon Hybrids - regular flex
Taylor Made RAC irons - regular steel shafts.

Any pointers would be great.

Thanks

I've a similar bag including taylormade rac irons and a ping g10 driver playing off 8. I had plans to change my irons and went for a custom fit.

The outcome was that changing my irons would have only had a marginal benefit but changing shafts in the driver and my 3 wood would give me more distance and reduce my draw/hook when my timing is off.. 2 months later I can see the difference.

I now feel I can make a fast swing at the ball and it stays straight.

Would really recommend the fitting because swing plane and shot shape are all factors. I also saved money by not buying irons that I didn't need.

Hope this helps.

brianodub

Where did you get fitted Searay?

searay

brianodub wrote: »

Where did you get fitted Searay?

Fore golf.

Rikand

matt-dublin wrote: »

you must be putting your back our of joint with that Tones,

The average PGA swing speed is 105-115 and woods/mcilroy float around the 125 mark.

a fairly good way to measure is take your average driver distance (based on good consistent ball strikes) and divide by 2.7

yards or meters

Tones69

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

yards or meters

Maaaaan everyone needs to stop using meters, yards is where its at

Rikand

Tones69 wrote: »

Maaaaan everyone needs to stop using meters, yards is where its at

lol

hmmm, 250 yards off the tee / 2.7 = 92.59259259259259259259259259 Miles per hour.

Tones69

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

lol

hmmm, 250 yards off the tee / 2.7 = 92.59259259259259259259259259 Miles per hour.

Its divided by 2.5 i think they say isnt it? 100mph swing should see 250yds there or there abouts?

Rikand

Tones69 wrote: »

Its divided by 2.5 i think they say isnt it? 100mph swing should see 250yds there or there abouts?

interesting, i never in a million years would have reckoned I had a 100mph swing. it's quite slow in my opinion.

matt-dublin

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

yards or meters

yards

BoardsMember

Tones69 wrote: »

Maaaaan everyone needs to stop using meters, yards is where its at

Yeah, this metric lark is never going to catch on

Russman

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

interesting, i never in a million years would have reckoned I had a 100mph swing. it's quite slow in my opinion.

Don't forget its clubhead speed not swingspeed. You could be like Ernie Els with a slow tempo but huge clubhead speed.

Tones69

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

interesting, i never in a million years would have reckoned I had a 100mph swing. it's quite slow in my opinion.

Thems is the mathematics friend, you're prob talking 250 yards total for your drives, the equation is related to carry i believe

Rikand

Tones69 wrote: »

Thems is the mathematics friend, you're prob talking 250 yards total for your drives, the equation is related to carry i believe

I get no run. it's all carry I must impart a ton of backspin on my drives or something

Tones69

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

I get no run. it's all carry I must impart a ton of backspin on my drives or something

Well If your carrying 250yd on a dead calm day then ur clubface is hitting that ball at minimum 100mph. Either that or you're just rounding off a 235/240drive to 250 AAAANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC

golfnut1

Russman wrote: »

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

interesting, i never in a million years would have reckoned I had a 100mph swing. it's quite slow in my opinion.

Don't forget its clubhead speed not swingspeed. You could be like Ernie Els with a slow tempo but huge clubhead speed.

What's the difference between clubhead speed and swing speed?

Tones69

golfnut1 wrote: »

What's the difference between clubhead speed and swing speed?

There have an aul read of that http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/club-head-speed-research/

and let me knows if its any good cos i gotta run here lol

Russman

golfnut1 wrote: »

What's the difference between clubhead speed and swing speed?

Well, in fairness, it depends on interpretation of swingspeed. I assume by the poster's comment he feels his swing is quite slow. But he may have huge lag in it. Say something like Fred Couples' swing, which appears very slow and effortless yet the clubhead really whips through at massive speed.

golfnut1

Russman wrote: »

golfnut1 wrote: »

What's the difference between clubhead speed and swing speed?

Well, in fairness, it depends on interpretation of swingspeed. I assume by the poster's comment he feels his swing is quite slow. But he may have huge lag in it. Say something like Fred Couples' swing, which appears very slow and effortless yet the clubhead really whips through at massive speed.

Yeah I know what you mean but be it tiger or ernie swing speed and club head speed amonts to exactly the same thing. Just different terminology no?

Rikand

Tones69 wrote: »

Well If your carrying 250yd on a dead calm day then ur clubface is hitting that ball at minimum 100mph. Either that or you're just rounding off a 235/240drive to 250 AAAANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC

This is probably more realistic, lol

Russman

golfnut1 wrote: »

Yeah I know what you mean but be it tiger or ernie swing speed and club head speed amonts to exactly the same thing. Just different terminology no?

Quite possibly. I'd have thought that Ernie's arms and body move at a different speed than Tiger's even though they probably have similar clubhead speeds. I could be wrong.
Or as a more extreme example, someone small like Bud Cauley compared to an Els or a Vijay....?

matt-dublin

Els I think was 116mph whereas woods is beyond 125mph

Els floats around the 300 marker whereas woods is about 330

golfnut1

matt-dublin wrote: »

Els I think was 116mph whereas woods is beyond 125mph

Els floats around the 300 marker whereas woods is about 330

I'm sure your right about that stats.
I was asking about swing speed and club head speed. As far as I know they are exactly the same thing i.e. if your swing speed is 100mph your club head speed is 100mph.
The speed of the swing/clubhead is clocked at impact as this is the only thing that is important. it doesn't matter what tempo or kind of acceleration profile you use to achieve this.

matt-dublin

i would be of the opinion theyre the same

Tones69

matt-dublin wrote: »

Els I think was 116mph whereas woods is beyond 125mph

Els floats around the 300 marker whereas woods is about 330

Woods aint banging out 330 man, unless its downwind

matt-dublin

his tour average is 302, which means he does be banging a goof few out at 330.

Tones69

matt-dublin wrote: »

his tour average is 302, which means he does be banging a goof few out at 330.

He's averaging 297.4 yds dude, VERY rarely puts out anything near 330 unless like i said its downwind, hes just inside top 30 driving distance

k.p.h

Tiger uses his 3 wood too much for his average distance to be accurate also. Tiger was hitting it 297 with 44" steel shafted driver in 1997 well before the V1. I'm led to believe the Nike ball he plays also has a higher spin rate than even the V1 off the driver.

He obviously trades distance for control (tries to anyway ).

Russman

I probably used the wrong description with the word swingspeed. I took from the poster's comment that he felt he had a slow swing, ie in a more general sense, and was trying to highlight that whether someone feels they have a fast or slow swing has little relationship with clubhead speed. Perhaps "speed" should be replaced by "effort"
My bad.