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Bass Guitar Kit Wiring

  • 19-04-2012 12:39pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭


    Hi Guys,
    a chap I know has asked me about wiring his diy bass guitar kit. I searched on-line and havn't had any luck in finding a schematic. I was hoping someome here might be able to point me in the right direction.
    I's a two pickup 5 string, two vol, two tone with no selector switch. I've had a go already, I wired it as two seperate circuits and joined them at the output jack but 3 of the knobs seem to turn it down completely. I'm at a loss. Any ideas or help would be welcomed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    With no selector, are you sure it's 2 vol, 2 tone, not something more like a Warwick Corvette with balance, treble and bass controls? (Obviously, you'd be wiring to some kind of Equaliser which would be a dead giveaway!)

    What's the kit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭travis1976


    Hey Banjo,
    There's 2 x a500k pots, 2 x b500k pots and nothine else except the output jack. I know very weird


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    2 volume, 1 tone, 1 blender?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    I see your point.

    If it's wired like a les paul, have you by any chance wired the live to the input jack sleeve ground? Probably not, but gotta start somewhere :)
    You mention 3 of the knobs turn it down completely, what does the first do? does it act like a master volume, so it sets a volume and the other 3 allow you to set it at volumes between that volume and off? Do they affect the volume all the way along their play or only in the first 1/4 turn or so? Have you put the linear taper pots in the volume position?

    Any chance you could sketch up how it's wired?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭kevin65


    I'm looking at Dan Erlwine's guitar book at the moment and it has a sh*tload of different guitar and bass wiring diagrams. There is a Fender Jazz bass with two volume, one tone, no selector. Every thing else seems to have selector switches. I can scan and email if it's any good to you. Just PM me your email address.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭travis1976


    feylya wrote: »
    2 volume, 1 tone, 1 blender?

    Em, no blender pot. They would generally be a stereo affair wouldn't they?
    Banjo wrote: »
    I see your point.

    If it's wired like a les paul, have you by any chance wired the live to the input jack sleeve ground? Probably not, but gotta start somewhere :)
    You mention 3 of the knobs turn it down completely, what does the first do? does it act like a master volume, so it sets a volume and the other 3 allow you to set it at volumes between that volume and off? Do they affect the volume all the way along their play or only in the first 1/4 turn or so? Have you put the linear taper pots in the volume position?

    Any chance you could sketch up how it's wired?

    I will recheck the wiring tonite. the 4th knob does nothing. I used the a500k knobs for vol and the b500k for tone, not sure why, but it always stuck in my head that, that's how it was done.
    kevin65 wrote: »
    I'm looking at Dan Erlwine's guitar book at the moment and it has a sh*tload of different guitar and bass wiring diagrams. There is a Fender Jazz bass with two volume, one tone, no selector. Every thing else seems to have selector switches. I can scan and email if it's any good to you. Just PM me your email address.

    Thanks Kev, but I won't put you to the bother, I think I have one anyways.

    Thanks lads, I think I'm just goint to wire it Jazz style, with a dummy knob. I can't believe how many times I wrote knob in this post...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    travis1976 wrote: »
    Em, no blender pot. They would generally be a stereo affair wouldn't they?

    Nope. Use one of the linear pots, hot lead from the first pickup goes to the first finger on the pot, second hot lead goes to the third finger and the middle finger goes to the output jack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭travis1976


    feylya wrote: »
    Nope. Use one of the linear pots, hot lead from the first pickup goes to the first finger on the pot, second hot lead goes to the third finger and the middle finger goes to the output jack.

    Am sounding like a dumba## now, which ones are linear?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    The B ones. 1 for tone, 1 for blender I'd guess with 2 log ones for Volume. That said, it wouldn't make sense to have 2 volume and a blender - just turn the volume down on the pickup you don't want to hear...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭travis1976


    Yeah, I think I'll have a go at it again tonite. Thanks for the help guys. Deadly as per usual..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭TroutMask


    goto stewmac > schematics

    or seymour duncan

    every wiring option going


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 giblin99


    hey, sorry to bring this back up but did you ever figure this out? ive just bought the same 5 string kit and im a bit stumped as to what way its meant to be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    guitarelectronics.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 giblin99


    guitarelectronics.com
    thanks but it is not a common setup from what im finding online, it seems to be 2 volume and 2 tone or as someone suggested maybe one is a blend, thats not a problem when there is a toggle switch involved but there is no switch on this bass and i would rather not use one anyway, im looking for a way to use each volume and tone independant of the other volume and tone, or if the op has figured out if the 4th pot was for blend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭zafo


    What's the kit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 giblin99


    http://www.guitar-warehouse.ie/product_detail.asp?ProductID=178&Product=5 String Bass Guitar Kit DIY Project
    I'm not sure if that shows up as a link, its a 5 string kit from guitarwarehouse.ie it's the only 5 string bass kit they have, just hope to find some information as this is my first kit build, thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭travis1976


    giblin99 wrote: »
    http://www.guitar-warehouse.ie/product_detail.asp?ProductID=178&Product=5 String Bass Guitar Kit DIY Project
    I'm not sure if that shows up as a link, its a 5 string kit from guitarwarehouse.ie it's the only 5 string bass kit they have, just hope to find some information as this is my first kit build, thanks

    Never got the bottom of it... Sorry can't be of more help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭zafo


    I'd say wire it up Gibson style skipping the selector switch or drill another hole and add in a switch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 giblin99


    I was just trying to figure out blend/balance pots...if i used the 2 volumes, 1 of the tones and got a blend/balance pot (2 x 500kOhms) could this work out by wiring each humbucker to its own volume, then through the blend pot and then into the tone? or something like that? thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    I'd wire it like a Fender '62 Jazz, just imagine that the stacked pots are seperate ones

    http://support.fender.com/service_diagrams/bass_guitars/019-0209C_SISD.pdf

    http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216537


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭zafo


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    I'd wire it like a Fender '62 Jazz, just imagine that the stacked pots are seperate ones

    http://support.fender.com/service_diagrams/bass_guitars/019-0209C_SISD.pdf

    http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216537

    Yep that makes the most sense of all, always forgetting about that version of the Jazz. :o

    No need for a blend pot as you just use the two volumes for the blending.


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