cheap dental options in europe

augustus gloop

hi, sorry didnt know where to post this, im sure it will be moved.

i need a coup[le of dental implants in the next 6 months, and i was wondering if anyone has travelled to eastern europe to get work done, some experiences/advice would be appriciated. i will probably get it done in dublin unless i get a very good option in europe.

Cavehill Red

Here's a tip - don't go near the dental forum in here. You'll be told that you'll end up butchered within an inch of your life and end up having to pay five times as much because some heroic Irish dentist will have to fix up your mouth afterwards.
And if you were to point to the equal standards of dental education, or higher equipment standards, or the fact that loads of Europeans use these dentists without any difficulty, in places like say Hungary, where the Swiss flock to get their teeth done, you'll be bawled out of it.
They don't even like suggestions of saving a few quid by going to a Northern dentist, and like to slyly suggest that Northern dentists aren't as good, even though they are identically trained and often have better surgeries and equipment, or they claim that the only reason their prices are higher than in Britain or the North is because of insurance costs (that can apparently double estimates in many cases.)
I've dealt with dentists in Dublin, Belfast, and in a number of foreign countries. The level of care was pretty much identical everywhere. The big surgeries in Europe advertising for dental patients aren't butchering anyone - it would only take one case in the papers to kill the entire market.
My personal recommendation: my close neighbours the <snip> The best-equipped dental practice on the island bar none, and significantly cheaper than any Dublin option (though a little pricier than their Northern counterparts.) They'll pick you up off the enterprise and drop you back to the train too if you ask. They have their own lab on site, something few if any Southern dentists have.

KeithM89_old

Moved from After Hours

helimachoptor

Sorry cavehill, no names.

Cavehill Red

Lad asked for recommendations, and it wasn't a problem in AH, where he posted his thread originally.
I'll PM him my recommendation, so.

Dianthus

Implants are the dental equivalent of a Rolls Royce.
Very expensive, very specialised, but the closest possible thing you can get to a natural tooth.
We're not talking about going abroad for a scale& polish, or a couple of fillings, or a denture, here.
With any complicated and intricate procedure, done by ANY dentist or specialist, in ANY part of the world, there is a potential for complications.
It's more practical to manage a complication if your dentist/specialist is geographically close to you, that's all.
There are patients at our practice who have had implants placed in the 1980s who continue to this day to be patients. With a patient who travels considerable distance across several countries, in all liklihood, will they be willing to travel once or twice a year for the next 10,15,20 years to be seen at that same practice abroad? There is a lot to be said for continuity of care.
However, if you are going abroad, choose wisely& carefully, not simply on price alone.
Funnily enough, I see about 50people a year having hip and knee replacements, and none of them have considered travelling abroad for those.....maybe people view their jaws as being less valuable to them

Chuck Stone

Cavehill Red wrote: »

You'll be told that you'll end up butchered within an inch of your life and end up having to pay five times as much because some heroic Irish dentist will have to fix up your mouth afterwards.

True.

There's one problem for Irish dentists who espouse this line though - they do not offer one scintilla of credible evidence that outcomes of dental treatment abroad are any worse than those in the ROI.

Nothing.

helimachoptor

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Lad asked for recommendations, and it wasn't a problem in AH, where he posted his thread originally.
I'll PM him my recommendation, so.

Yep and that's fine, normally you'd get an infraction but the post was not subject to the rules of this forum at the time.

Oral Surgeon

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Here's a tip - don't go near the dental forum in here. You'll be told that you'll end up butchered within an inch of your life and end up having to pay five times as much because some heroic Irish dentist will have to fix up your mouth afterwards.
And if you were to point to the equal standards of dental education, or higher equipment standards, or the fact that loads of Europeans use these dentists without any difficulty, in places like say Hungary, where the Swiss flock to get their teeth done, you'll be bawled out of it.
They don't even like suggestions of saving a few quid by going to a Northern dentist, and like to slyly suggest that Northern dentists aren't as good, even though they are identically trained and often have better surgeries and equipment, or they claim that the only reason their prices are higher than in Britain or the North is because of insurance costs (that can apparently double estimates in many cases.)
I've dealt with dentists in Dublin, Belfast, and in a number of foreign countries. The level of care was pretty much identical everywhere. The big surgeries in Europe advertising for dental patients aren't butchering anyone - it would only take one case in the papers to kill the entire market.
My personal recommendation: my close neighbours the <snip> The best-equipped dental practice on the island bar none, and significantly cheaper than any Dublin option (though a little pricier than their Northern counterparts.) They'll pick you up off the enterprise and drop you back to the train too if you ask. They have their own lab on site, something few if any Southern dentists have.

That's great, you obviously know so much more about this topic than the dentists who post here....

Op, if you can't afford good treatment then don't get irreversible bad treatment just because it is cheap. I'd rather see you get a good cheap denture than a mouth of bad implants. This is not a bad haircut that will just grow out and you can forget about it- it is irreversible surgical treatment in a very unforgiving part of your body, aesthetic and functional.

Good luck,
OS

Oral Surgeon

Chuck Stone wrote: »

True.

There's one problem for Irish dentists who espouse this line though - they do not offer one scintilla of credible evidence that outcomes of dental treatment abroad are any worse than those in the ROI.

Nothing.

Ah chuck stone is back again, did we not have this thread a few months ago? Search the forum chuck stone and take your trolling somewhere else.
Since our last thread, I have seen approx 10 botched dental tourism patients. I am in a referral business so have a cross section of patients sent to see me for various procedures and while some Irish treated patents have less than ideal teeth, no one but the dental tourism cases have the massively over treated and poorly treatment planed and executed jobs...

You can argue all you like but I see this all the time.

Btw, this is my last post in this thread as I have had this conversation many times before and just couldn't be bothered...

Chuck Stone

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

Ah chuck stone is back again, did we not have this thread a few months ago? Search the forum chuck stone and take your trolling somewhere else.

An attempt to insult in your 2nd sentence. Well done.

Bla bla bla scare stories bla bla bla - bla bla bla scare stories bla bla bla - bla bla bla scare stories bla bla bla - bla bla bla scare stories bla bla bla - bla bla bla scare stories bla bla bla - bla bla bla scare stories bla bla bla

I'm not seeing any credible evidence here.

CiaranC

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

That's great, you obviously know so much more about this topic than the dentists who post here....

Aaaaaand here we go..

OP, ask your question in the bargain alerts request forum and Ill post a recommendation. This forum is a joke.

Cavehill Red

Oral Surgeon wrote: »

Ah chuck stone is back again, did we not have this thread a few months ago? Search the forum chuck stone and take your trolling somewhere else.
Since our last thread, I have seen approx 10 botched dental tourism patients. I am in a referral business so have a cross section of patients sent to see me for various procedures and while some Irish treated patents have less than ideal teeth, no one but the dental tourism cases have the massively over treated and poorly treatment planed and executed jobs...

You can argue all you like but I see this all the time.

Btw, this is my last post in this thread as I have had this conversation many times before and just couldn't be bothered...

I believe this vindicates everything I initially advised the OP.

helimachoptor

So within a couple hours the thread has descended into a farce.

Op there are a lot of threads on dental tourism, a lot with pictures. If you search for them you will find more than enough info.

Chuck and cavehill, the dentists on here are seeing dodgy holiday jobs it's an undeniable fact. This is a well worn path so I'm locking the thread.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Just like to add that it doesnt matter where your work is done or what the price is. Dental implants take time as does advanced crown and bridge or root canal treatment. This treatment cannot be done in short period of time while on holidays. There are also several threads of people coming on saying how great their dental tourism was and when they post pictures or treatment plan the quality is laughable and the costs high. If you are willing to traved 5-10 times over the course of several months or years then maybe it will work out well. Also be prepare to have no comeback or access to rapid emmergency care.

Personally I have see disasters on a regular basis which I have documented well on boards. I see some Irish dentistry going wrong too but not the scale or consistence of the problem I see from dental tourism.

Make a good decision, costs are a factor but not the only one. Dont just believe whoever is tell you what you want to hear. And OP this topic causes arguments on boards.ie all the time, you need make an informed and rational decision and consider that those tell you that there are no healthcare bargains are not necessarily thinking of themselves.