Hide My IP Address

beanok77

Hi guys, how is it possible to do this? I heard some technology show on Newstalk explaining how to cloak your IP.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

vibe666

yes it is, but it would be frowned upon here to explain the details of how to do it as it is generally used to circumvent some type of security or another which would be against the forum charter, so expect the thread to be locked shortly, sorry.

Khannie

I have no objection to discussion of particular technologies. Only the discussion of using technologies to circumvent laws.

e.g. discussing torrenting technology = OK.
discussing how to use torrents to download movies = not OK.

subway

Really?
It's against the rules to talk about something like TOR?
Anonymisation is hugely important for many Internet users.

The Computers and tech forum can't be that backwards?

edit //
thank for restoring my faith khannie

Khannie

So on the matter at hand: Ways that I can think of off the top of my head to hide your "real" IP include using a proxy, using an anonymising network like TOR, using a private VPN.

Khannie

subway wrote: »

It's against the rules to talk about something like TOR?

Nope. Fire ahead.

subway

This is the quickest, easiest, cheapest way I know of
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en

M.J.M.C

Personally I'd rather use a VPN over TOR,

subway

You can also install ad supported tunneling software such as hot spot shield or expat shield.
These will hide your ip, but like TOR speed can be slow and actual anonymity is debatable as you are sending all your traffic through an unknown 3rd party

subway

As mjmc says, if you want to pay and want secure anymous fast browsing, you need a vpn service.
For vpns if you want proper anonymity check the laws for the local country.

If you want a us up, for example, you will never be truly anonymous. But you will be able to access us video services.

Depends on your requirements at the end of the day

vibe666

Khannie wrote: »

I have no objection to discussion of particular technologies. Only the discussion of using technologies to circumvent laws.

e.g. discussing torrenting technology = OK.
discussing how to use torrents to download movies = not OK.

fair enough, but the last time i saw it asked about on the broadband forum, it was shut down before anyone even had a chance to say why they wanted to do it for the reasons i said above.

but you're the mod, so it's entirely up to you.

in which case, hidemyass, hidemyip and the likes will do just fine.

also google for "anonymous cgi proxy" or as has already been mentioned, tor, but it wouldn't be my favourite option personally.

if you have a web host you can set that up as a simple proxy very easily, but personally i'd prefer to use a vpn from a non-secure location to a trusted network like your home internet connection where you have control over both endpoints.

vibe666

subway wrote: »

You can also install ad supported tunneling software such as hot spot shield or expat shield.

turns out the more recent versions of them are (apparently) riddled with spyware/adware.

i've been using it for a long time never had any issues, but i think it was the blocking scripts on my router masking the problem. i suggested expat shield on the bbc iplayer thread a little while ago and got shot down for infecting people's pc's.

beanok77

Cheers for the help. Think it was Joe Drumgoole on Newstalk who discussed how to cloak your IP.

niceoneyeh

vibe666 wrote: »

turns out the more recent versions of them are (apparently) riddled with spyware/adware.

i've been using it for a long time never had any issues, but i think it was the blocking scripts on my router masking the problem. i suggested expat shield on the bbc iplayer thread a little while ago and got shot down for infecting people's pc's.

+1 against expatshield
Used it myself to watch tv online, got nothing but security issues from the beginning; pop-ups, virus alerts, email spam & trojans - the whole package.
Uninstalled pretty quickly but took a while to clean up the debris left behind.
Avoid imho

subway

Good to know, I know it's ad supported but never had virus issues.

subway

lusily wrote: »

yes,use vpn to change different ip

Sure, but my point is, if your paying for anonymity and a us ip, you aren't getting what you are paying for

Khannie

subway wrote: »

Sure, but my point is, if your paying for anonymity and a us ip, you aren't getting what you are paying for

Tell me more.

yoyo

Just to add here, discussion of VPN services is perfectly ok however discussion of using/how to use those services to bypass region blocking restrictions is not ok!

biko

Had no issues with various proxies incl expatshield.

DealBraker

You really have two main options when it comes to choosing a service and that is whether you want a paid service or a free one. The free ones often have some kind of catch or make no real effort to protect your privacy. The best free ones are TOR, I2P and Hotspot Shield. All three are reasonably slow but Hotspot Shield forces adds onto the websites you visit.

Paid services are much more secure and are fast. The best paid one (in my opinion) is Ipredator located in Sweden. They have very stringent privacy policies and are protected by Swedish privacy laws. They also have a great support team.

Khannie

DealBraker wrote: »

Paid services are much more secure and are fast.

Surprisingly cheap too (this thread has prompted me to investigate). Fiver a month type range.

subway

Khannie wrote: »

Tell me more.

this article covers some of it, and asks the questions of some VPN providers
http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-providers-really-take-anonymity-seriously-111007/

the problem, i have is this blog from VPNtunnel.se, a long standing swedish VPN and the info they provide about the legal requirements for logging on a US server
http://blog.vpntunnel.org/2011/06/29/privacy-policy-comment/

the suggestion is, that for a US IP address, you need a US server, therefore you come under US ip logging laws. they keep records for 30 days, but not of sites visited, just times you are connected to the proxy.

after that it all a bit blurry for me, but i work on the assumption that i dont have full anoymisation, but do have more than enough options to feel secure online when i need to.

danjo-xx

Isn't using a mobile dongle equivelant to a private ip address....as every time you log on you get a new address.

vibe666

danjo-xx wrote: »

Isn't using a mobile dongle equivelant to a private ip address....as every time you log on you get a new address.

a new ip address that is tracked and logged (as in registered with your name against it when you use it, not necessarily logging activity) by your service provider, so nope.

Khannie

vibe666 wrote: »

a new ip address that is tracked and logged (as in registered with your name against it when you use it, not necessarily logging activity) by your service provider, so nope.

Yeah, by law Irish ISP's are required to retain the map of IP -> person for 2 years I think.*




*may not be true, but it's stuck in my head.

vibe666

i had 3 years in my head, but i think that might be the UK.

however, it doesn't mean they aren't doing *more* tracking than is legally required, like keeping track of every website visited, cookies or deep packet inspection. possibly not all the time, but i'm sure they'd be more than happy to tell the authorities what you are doing if they asked, not that you'd be doing anything you shouldn't, but it doesn't necessarily mean you want everyone knowing what you're doing.

PogMoThoin

vibe666 wrote: »

i had 3 years in my head, but i think that might be the UK.

however, it doesn't mean they aren't doing *more* tracking than is legally required, like keeping track of every website visited, cookies or deep packet inspection. possibly not all the time, but i'm sure they'd be more than happy to tell the authorities what you are doing if they asked, not that you'd be doing anything you shouldn't, but it doesn't necessarily mean you want everyone knowing what you're doing.

More, don't be daft, they're doing less. Monitoring costs money. Other than having their own DNS and peering statistics they don't really care where you visit.

subway

It's not the isp people care about tho.
It's 3rd parties who bring a case and force the isp to reveal your identity.

DealBraker

vibe666 wrote: »

however, it doesn't mean they aren't doing *more* tracking than is legally required, like keeping track of every website visited, cookies or deep packet inspection.

As a rule of thumb ISP's don't monitor every single action by every single user, they generally just monitor the time and date you connect, the IP assigned and how much bandwidth you use. If a court order was obtained to reveal the identity of a user they would give the IP address and the time to the ISP who would in turn then check their logs to see what account was using that IP at that time. Its not the ISP's job to monitor the user activity unless they are legally obliged too. That's one of many reason that people like to use VPN's.

vibe666

PogMoThoin wrote: »

More, don't be daft, they're doing less. Monitoring costs money. Other than having their own DNS and peering statistics they don't really care where you visit.

you'd hope so, but i wouldn't be betting my life/money/freedom on that being the case if i had something to hide, just to be on the safe side.

it's not nearly as expensive as you'd think to keep tabs on what your users are doing. the company i work for has more employees than most of the ISP's in Ireland and you'd be surprised at the amount of monitoring that it has in place monitoring the users as well as the systems.

PogMoThoin

vibe666 wrote: »

you'd hope so, but i wouldn't be betting my life/money/freedom on that being the case if i had something to hide, just to be on the safe side.

it's not nearly as expensive as you'd think to keep tabs on what your users are doing. the company i work for has more employees than most of the ISP's in Ireland and you'd be surprised at the amount of monitoring that it has in place monitoring the users as well as the systems.

I've worked for ISP's, they only care about how much traffic you use, not where it's going or how you waste your time. (Interestingly enough, about 65% goes to Google ) For a business, corporations or colleges it's different, they need to deter and block timewasting sites and ensure that staff arent using their bandwidth for illegal activities.

ISP's don't care much for what IP you had last week, but are obliged to keep this record under law.

subway

vibe666 wrote: »

company i work for has more employees than most of the ISP's in Ireland ...

we're talking about monitoring customers, not employees.

PogMoThoin wrote: »

I've worked for ISP's, they only care about how much traffic you use, not where it's going or how you waste your time. (Interestingly enough, about 65% goes to Google )

they dont care, but then still check?

PogMoThoin

subway wrote: »

they dont care, but then still check?

It's fairly obvious where the ISP's traffic is going, they got to pay for it. They all peer at the INEX, the statistics of which they are well aware of.
https://www.inex.ie/about/memberlist

vibe666

but are you REALLY REALLY sure that they aren't monitoring it? (i know i'm starting to sound paranoid, but i'm genuinely curious).

how about DNS requests (which would include search results)? my own home router does this and it's only used a few kb in the several months i was using it as a test, so it wouldn't take a whole lot to keep them logged for each customer and it would tell an awful lot about someone's browsing habits that could then potentially be used against them in court or whatever.

in related news, you wouldn't believe some of the stuff my missus is looking at online!

FreudianSlippers

Khannie wrote: »

Yeah, by law Irish ISP's are required to retain the map of IP -> person for 2 years I think.*




*may not be true, but it's stuck in my head.

Between 6 months and 2 years - Directive 2006/24/EC, implemented here by the Communications (Retention of Data) Act 2011

Khannie

vibe666 wrote: »

how about DNS requests (which would include search results)?

DNS only records the server you're querying, not the URL.

Khannie

Bit of a bump on this thread, but it's the thread I used when deciding....Gave vpntunnel.se a bash as of today and found it incredibly fast for browsing. Very responsive. I was considering ipredator but they have a 3 month minimum.

_AVALANCHE_

Khannie wrote: »

Bit of a bump on this thread, but it's the thread I used when deciding....Gave vpntunnel.se a bash as of today and found it incredibly fast for browsing. Very responsive. I was considering ipredator but they have a 3 month minimum.

Why did you not use Black and get a few free months....

or better again....though.

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