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bbability

I came across a car this morning with a reg above the 120000 for the year 2010. I'm sure the official figures for new car sales in Dublin touched 40k that year if they were lucky. So why such a high reg. I did a reg check online and it matched the car. I really thought it was a false reg plate.

mytime

its the number format for imported cars. All D imports will now start at 120,000

bbability

And does the same apply to the other 25 counties?

Atlantic Dawn

bbability wrote: »

And does the same apply to the other 25 counties?

Yes but they all start at different numbers, there has been no official media release of the cut off figures so as yourself most people think they are dodgy plates, I did too when I first spotted one.

bbability

I actually thought it was a NAMA car or something like that... It was a beautiful BMW 530d. But I was sure that certain dealers are bringing in certain models from the uk. Will they have to conform to this procedure?

Leonard Hofstadter

Cork starts at 40,000, Clare is 9,000, Mayo is 10,000, Galway is 16,800 and there are others! It's an absolute disgrace of a system really, it's an instant giveaway as to whether or not the car is an import (and worse, you can work out how recently it has been imported too!).

Atlantic Dawn

bbability wrote: »

I actually thought it was a NAMA car or something like that... It was a beautiful BMW 530d. But I was sure that certain dealers are bringing in certain models from the uk. Will they have to conform to this procedure?

Yes it's all used cars registered, any year will have to conform to this, dealer or no private import.

Atlantic Dawn

captainspeed wrote: »

it's an instant giveaway as to whether or not the car is an import (and worse, you can work out how recently it has been imported too!).

Yes but the problem is that all that were imported before this may now be presumed by some people with little knowledge to be non imports when in fact they are.

johnos1984

captainspeed wrote: »

Cork starts at 40,000, Clare is 9,000, Mayo is 10,000, Galway is 16,800 and there are others! It's an absolute disgrace of a system really, it's an instant giveaway as to whether or not the car is an import (and worse, you can work out how recently it has been imported too!).

Most of that info is on the vehicle registration certificate anyway.

Apart from having long reg plate numbers I fail to see the issue with this. Can someone tell me if there is?

challengemaster

johnos1984 wrote: »

Most of that info is on the vehicle registration certificate anyway.

Apart from having long reg plate numbers I fail to see the issue with this. Can someone tell me if there is?

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Leonard Hofstadter

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Yes but the problem is that all that were imported before this may now be presumed by some people with little knowledge to be non imports when in fact they are.

Yes, it's another problem.

Talk about making the SIMI happy - the ironic thing is that the SIMI go around telling us how imports are so "bad" when they almost always have a much higher spec, better engines and a much higher likelihood of it being serviced properly than the poverty spec rubbish here!

djimi

captainspeed wrote: »

It's an absolute disgrace of a system really, it's an instant giveaway as to whether or not the car is an import (and worse, you can work out how recently it has been imported too!).

I dont see how either of these are much of an issue tbh. Who cares if someone knows the car is an import or not?

bbability

I think it's designed for easy identification purposes. It won't put me off buying a car in the UK.

It's a bit of an after thought mind you. What's Conor Faughnan got to say about it? Has he not been on The Last Word to air his thoughts on the new system??

zzantara

This is due to a "glitch" in the ROS (Revenue on line ) registration system.Normally imports get a reg no which continues on from the last car registered in any year but for some "computer glitch "reason this was not happening this (2012) year.
To overcome the problem Revenue "started" import reg numbers @ 100000 ie 10 D 100001 etc.

Guy:Incognito

zzantara wrote: »

This is due to a "glitch" in the ROS (Revenue on line ) registration system.Normally imports get a reg no which continues on from the last car registered in any year but for some "computer glitch "reason this was not happening this (2012) year.
To overcome the problem Revenue "started" import reg numbers @ 100000 ie 10 D 100001 etc.

The revenue released a statement (someone posted it in the other thread about this) that said some ****e about the computer not allowing them to assign imports the next number but they were keeping a certain amount free to allow new regs to be added to the end of th current regs. So basically they could add the ones they want to the current numbers but imports had to be at the higher one.

listenup

captainspeed wrote: »

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Yes but the problem is that all that were imported before this may now be presumed by some people with little knowledge to be non imports when in fact they are.

Yes, it's another problem.

Talk about making the SIMI happy - the ironic thing is that the SIMI go around telling us how imports are so "bad" when they almost always have a much higher spec, better engines and a much higher likelihood of it being serviced properly than the poverty spec rubbish here!

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Atlantic Dawn

zzantara wrote: »

This is due to a "glitch" in the ROS (Revenue on line ) registration system.Normally imports get a reg no which continues on from the last car registered in any year but for some "computer glitch "reason this was not happening this (2012) year.
To overcome the problem Revenue "started" import reg numbers @ 100000 ie 10 D 100001 etc.

Very odd "glitch" that a Dublin number must continue from 120k onwards yet a Cork number continues from maybe 50k. If it was a glitch in the system it would have always been there, this year has no significant date range change to any year since 1997 when the system was introduced.

Blaming a computer is a lame excuse and designed to through people of the scent of why it really happened, to clense existing imported stock already in garages and to mark new stock being imported so as to make is less saleable and deter future imports. I don't believe it will deter imported stock, if anything it might make the 120k plates more sought after, similar to the way people stick German style plates on an Irish car.

Terrontress

I think that there is too much information on an Irish numberplate now. The average person won't realise that the imported car numbers are going to start with 12, possibly 13 also and will instead have to remember a 5 digit number in the case of a crime. It's practically a phone number. Plus the year of the car and the county.

Why does the casual passerby need to know the year of a car? If you are buying it check the taxbook.

The UK system seems a lot easier to me. 2 letters, 2 numbers, 3 digits. Easy to remember for identification. And while the first four digits have a meaning, it is not so important that you cannot change it for something else if you wish.

djimi

Terrontress wrote: »

I think that there is too much information on an Irish numberplate now. The average person won't realise that the imported car numbers are going to start with 12, possibly 13 also and will instead have to remember a 5 digit number in the case of a crime. It's practically a phone number. Plus the year of the car and the county.

Why does the casual passerby need to know the year of a car? If you are buying it check the taxbook.

The UK system seems a lot easier to me. 2 letters, 2 numbers, 3 digits. Easy to remember for identification. And while the first four digits have a meaning, it is not so important that you cannot change it for something else if you wish.

Personally I have always felt that we have one of the best car reg systems Ive come across; certainly the simplest. I dont see how any of the information on a reg plate could be considered to be too much? So you know the year and the county (and now possibly that the car is an import); what is the problem with anyone knowing any of that information?

If I am going to buy a car then its great to know its year by looking at it, rather than having to ask for the tax book or trying to decypher some cryptic lettering system like they have in the UK. Also if you have to remember a licence plate number for any reason (and its not unusual that you might have to take note of one in a hurry) then I think you are far more likely to remember an Irish plate than you would be a random string of letters and numbers.