UPC Junction Box Outside

Monkeynut

hi, i recently moved into a rented house and all the tv cabbles were disconnected .

the three bedrooms had cables cut from the ceiling and outside they where disconnected from the junction box at the gutter.

so anyway i ordered upc and they sent me out my modem for broadband and the set top box for the digital.

but i want it in my room not my sitting room. as the only live cable(which is white) goes from the junction box at the gutter, down the side of the house and into the sitting room through the wall.

now i called upc about it and they said they would send of a engineer but at a cost. so i tryed to do it myself for free and heres what i did.

i have connected a provided rla75e cable(extended to about 5 metres) from a vacant port on the junction box(it has 4 ports, one is used, its the white one going to sitting room) outside and then through my window, into my bedroom. but all i get when i try to tune in the t.v. is bad antenna stations and saorview.

i don't want to disconnect the white cable from the junction box, going to the sitting room as its sealed, but is that the only one thats giving a proper signal as the other three don't.

any advice as its looking like im going to have to get upc out.

fasttalkerchat

It sounds like UPC don't allow multiple connections as standard and you need to subscribe to a package such as sky multiroom with sky.

I would do this:

Monkeynut wrote: »

i don't want to disconnect the white cable from the junction box, going to the sitting room as its sealed, but is that the only one thats giving a proper signal as the other three don't.

lucernarian

Monkeynut wrote: »

hi, i recently moved into a rented house and all the tv cabbles were disconnected .

the three bedrooms had cables cut from the ceiling and outside they where disconnected from the junction box at the gutter.

so anyway i ordered upc and they sent me out my modem for broadband and the set top box for the digital.

but i want it in my room not my sitting room. as the only live cable(which is white) goes from the junction box at the gutter, down the side of the house and into the sitting room through the wall.

now i called upc about it and they said they would send of a engineer but at a cost. so i tryed to do it myself for free and heres what i did.

i have connected a provided rla75e cable(extended to about 5 metres) from a vacant port on the junction box(it has 4 ports, one is used, its the white one going to sitting room) outside and then through my window, into my bedroom. but all i get when i try to tune in the t.v. is bad antenna stations and saorview.

i don't want to disconnect the white cable from the junction box, going to the sitting room as its sealed, but is that the only one thats giving a proper signal as the other three don't.

any advice as its looking like im going to have to get upc out.

Sounds like wire is not connected to the tap properly, but trying to do so yourself basically counts as tampering with UPC's equipment and they don't take too kindly to that!

icdg

OP, whatever about running cables internally (which you are not meant to be doing really either), you REALLY shouldn't be tampering with the mains.

Get UPC to send an engineer out, they'll only be a couple of days at most. If you're tampering with the mains (which is illegal, by the way - not to mention dangerous) you could cause problems for your neighbors too, which won't make you flavor of the town. UPC will install additional points for you if you ask them.

zg3409

Monkeynut wrote: »

i have connected a provided rla75e cable(extended to about 5 metres) from a vacant port on the junction box(it has 4 ports, one is used, its the white one going to sitting room) outside and then through my window, into my bedroom. but all i get when i try to tune in the t.v. is bad antenna stations and saorview.

Firstly you might be putting yourself in danger. If you have run your own cable from the outside tap unit on the gutter, and if YOU HAVE NOT used a UPC ISOLATED outlet inside your house (these have 2 connections TV & FM) then there is a risk of electric shock. The white indoor UPC outlets have a safety isolating device to prevent electric shocks. This is done in case the cable system becomes live for any reason (lightning strike/crossed wires etc)

Also it seems as if you don't know what you are doing, which can be dangerous, especially if you are not using the appropriate safety isolated outlets.

The other problem is, if you get it to work, then UPC check their cable every so often for illegal connections, and cut them. Presumably your cable is not the same as a UPC cable or not installed using the same connectors etc. If the guy who checks them comes along he will cut the cable, as it's not an authorised UPC connection.

So even though you are paying, this cable may end up cut.

PLEASE USE THE CORRECT UPC outlet at least for your own sake.

You need to pay UPC for each extra room connected, every month, but you could ask them to move the connection from downstairs. Then you would still only have one connection.

Alternatively to save money, the UPC modem has wifi, so leave it in the sitting room and connect using Wifi. This won't solve the TV problem, but at least it will work.

And as already said run a cable from sitting room up to bedroom. It won't be UPC approved but at least you won't run the risk of electrocution at some stage in the future.

Solair

Also, bear in mind that UPC's network can carry fairly high voltage DC power (up to 100V) to power local amps. This is not passed through to you, as there's an isolator, but if you make any kind of direct, unauthorised connection to their system, you could end up exposing not only yourself to risk of shock, but you could also fry the cable modem and possibly anything connected to it.

Monkeynut

alright guys i'll leave well enough alone , i'll get upc out sometime....

but anyway a cool thing happened today, my uncle gave us another telly 23" lg led. it didn't have soarview listed on the features sticker at the side so i assumed it didn't have saorview.
so anyway i brought it up to my bedroom plugged in some rabbit ears, they need to have external power as well. i started to tune in the telly using autotune and was expecting just the terrestrial channel's bad rte rte 2 tv3 and tnag you know. well i got them plus 8 - 10 DTV channels, crystal clear rte1 rte 2 hd and so on(looks like saorview ).
lol i must be in a good place as i thought i had to buy an outside aerial for that.

anyway happy for now.

cheers for the input lads.

Solair

Saorview's quite similar to FreeView HD.
You might get the odd little glitch in terms of menus and stuff, but for basic telly-viewing, Freeview HD TVs usually (but not always) work OK.

Increasingly, as Freeview HD becomes more normal in the UK, the compatibility issues with Saorview should be very minimal in the future.

The major difference is standard definition Freeview in the UK uses MPEG2 and HD uses MPEG4.

Because Saorview launched a lot later, it's had the luxuary of going straight to MPEG4 for everything which is a far more modern set of compression algorithms than MPEG2.

Monkeynut

how come im getting it with the rabbit ears?

as i said in the post before. i thaught you needed an outside aerial like this.

paddy147

You will pick up Saorview with a good indoor areal.

As long as your TV is suitable to recieve it too,then all you need is an indoor areal.

10 euro for this one.:)

The Cush

Monkeynut wrote: »

how come im getting it with the rabbit ears?

as i said in the post before. i thaught you needed an outside aerial like this.

paddy147 wrote: »

You will pick up Saorview with a good indoor areal.

As long as your TV is suitable to recieve it too,then all you need is an indoor areal.

You will receive the Saorview DTT channels with an indoor aerial provided the Saorview signal strength and signal quality is good enough where the indoor aerial is located. This from RTÉNL

Can I Use An Indoor Portable Aerial, Rabbits Ears?

RTÉNL does not recommend the use of indoor portable aerials. They are too susceptible to localised physical and electrical interference. Terrestrial transmission of television, analogue and digital, is designed and built around rooftop reception.

It will be possible for over 50% of the population to receive SAORVIEW with an indoor portable aerial. However on a house to house basis there are many factors than impact on the effectiveness of a portable aerial. For example the orientation of your house, the location of the television in the house, the construction materials, the insulation materials, the proximity to neighbouring houses, walls and obstructions will all impact reception.

An outdoor aerial, positioned as high as possible, pointing towards the appropriate transmission site, with no local obstructions is recommended and will give the best results.