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How does percolation area affect future use/saleability of land?

  • 14-04-2012 10:46am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    We are currently conducting pecolation tests at our site, unfortunately this area has failed due to the ground having little or no soakage and therefore is unsuitable.

    So the proposed plan is to move the percolation area/polishing filter to a field approx. 80m to the west of the proposed dwelling. This field is outwith our site but still located on the family farm on which we are building.

    If in the future if the owner of said farm dies it will be left to 4 different family members - the owner is concerned that having a percolation area from another property will affect the saleability of this land i.e. it will be unsellable say for building purposes or for grazing purposes.

    Anyone got any experience of this?

    Thanks in advance.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Albanach wrote: »
    If in the future if the owner of said farm dies it will be left to 4 different family members - the owner is concerned that having a percolation area from another property will affect the saleability of this land i.e. it will be unsellable say for building purposes or for grazing purposes.

    Anyone got any experience of this?

    Thanks in advance.
    simply put the percolation area (and an engineer determined distance from it) will not be acceptable to LA for the purposes of constructing a dwelling.

    the sale of land that is used for your percolation area will be problematic..

    seek local arch/eng and solicitor advice is your best option. best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Albanach


    BryanF wrote: »
    simply put the percolation area (and an engineer determined distance from it) will not be acceptable to LA for the purposes of constructing a dwelling.

    the sale of land that is used for your percolation area will be problematic..

    seek local arch/eng and solicitor advice is your best option. best of luck

    What do you mean by LA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    LA = Local Authority (Council)

    You say the percolation test has failed. Has your approved assessor explored all the other alternative options and possible solutions to the issue within the confines of your site boundary?

    BryanF is correct, the likely outcome is that the proposal as you state will not be acceptable to the CoCo. It will most probably lead to issues down the line too, and involve wayleaves and right of way issues for maintanence etc.

    If alt options are a no go, look at other sites, as it is family land??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Albanach


    rayjdav wrote: »
    LA = Local Authority (Council)

    You say the percolation test has failed. Has your approved assessor explored all the other alternative options and possible solutions to the issue within the confines of your site boundary?

    BryanF is correct, the likely outcome is that the proposal as you state will not be acceptable to the CoCo. It will most probably lead to issues down the line too, and involve wayleaves and right of way issues for maintanence etc.

    If alt options are a no go, look at other sites, as it is family land??

    Alternative options within site boundary have been discussed briefly (importing of sub soil for example) but in depth.

    Other site not really available given the layout of the layound etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    Well you need to discuss all options in depth now or be prepared to forget about this site even before you start sketching what kind of house you want to put there.

    If you cant get percolation results you won't be allowed to build. Harsh but Simple.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭No6


    Albanach wrote: »
    We are currently conducting pecolation tests at our site, unfortunately this area has failed due to the ground having little or no soakage and therefore is unsuitable.

    So the proposed plan is to move the percolation area/polishing filter to a field approx. 80m to the west of the proposed dwelling. This field is outwith our site but still located on the family farm on which we are building.

    If in the future if the owner of said farm dies it will be left to 4 different family members - the owner is concerned that having a percolation area from another property will affect the saleability of this land i.e. it will be unsellable say for building purposes or for grazing purposes.

    Anyone got any experience of this?

    Thanks in advance.

    This used to happen all time around here but is not permitted in any form any more, your percilation area must be within the boundaries of your site, you must own it, anything else is a non runner in Mayo at least!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Supertech


    If you decide to pursue this route, and are successful in doing so, you will be required to enter into a legal agreement regarding the land on which the percolation area is located, that is to say you will either need to own it, or will be requried to have a legally registstered wayleave to it and on it. This will need to be marked on the Land Registry maps relating to your site, and will likely either be requested as further information or set as a condition of your planning if you don't lodge it at the outset. The land is essentially unuseable for any other purpose once the percolation are is constructed on it, and as has been said already, seperation distances will have to be maintained around it if other dwellings are planned in its vicinity. In my experience, as no6 has said above, most LA's won't allow this arrangement anymore, having a written stipulation in development plans that all services for any dwelling must be located within the curtilage of the site of that dwelling.


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