Thinking of making a Stock for CZ 452

johnny65

I'm thinking of making a stock for my CZ 452 based on something similar to accuracy international design like the one in link below . It will be made of wood as opposed to polymer . Was thinking of making my first attempt from pine so not spending huge money on something that doesn't work or i make a muck of.
Any one tried anything similar and have any tips or essential tools that will make the job easier .

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rabbit assassin

I made a stock for the first ever .22 Hornet I ever owned. I bought the gun for £150 I think it was at the time. The only thing wrong with the rifle was that the stock looked like it had been shredded with a chainsaw as the previous owner didnt look after it at all. So I spent the summer working on a block of pine with a router and a sander. If you have experience with woodwork and take your time it is not as difficult as you would first think. The only difficult part I found was the shaping of the block at the start. Definitely a very satisfying project. I am thinking of starting a new project on the stock of an old .22 I have. Definitely go for it but the only real advice I can give is do not rush it. You will find yourself wanting to do more and more but just take your time and that way it will be perfect

Feisar

Great idea, something I'd love to do if I had the tools/skills.

My only comment would be isn't pine very soft so it's not much use as a stock after you've put all that work into it.

It wasn't me!

Pine is very soft alright but you could make a good pattern stock out of it by shaping and using epoxy to smooth it out or build up anything you wanted and then cut a stock from walnut or the like for the real deal once you have all the measurements tweaked out.

rabbit assassin

Agreed it is very soft. Saying that it is very easy t work with and relatively inexpensive. I would advise everyone who wants to try it , give it a go !! Its a hobby in itself !

garv123

I think the most important thing is the moisture content of the wood.
If its not dry enough it can warp and twist and will touch the barrel

ssl

I shortened a stock once. Very satisfying work. No expierene needed just a piece to practice on.
I wonder if ya got a block of polypropylene, cut and bore it into a stock, sanded it and painted it how would it look

johnny65

ssl wrote: »

I shortened a stock once. Very satisfying work. No expierene needed just a piece to practice on.
I wonder if ya got a block of polypropylene, cut and bore it into a stock, sanded it and painted it how would it look

Nice idea with the block of polypropylene . have you had experience with working with pp is it easy to crave/shape without heating it . Id say it be severe on tools like chisels .

ssl

johnny65 wrote: »

Nice idea with the block of polypropylene . have you had experience with working with pp is it easy to crave/shape without heating it . Id say it be severe on tools like chisels .

No i've no expierene with working on pp. Ya may need a good rasp and some spare bits from the drimmel but I recon it could work

tfox

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Pine is very soft alright but you could make a good pattern stock out of it by shaping and using epoxy to smooth it out or build up anything you wanted and then cut a stock from walnut or the like for the real deal once you have all the measurements tweaked out.

Neighbour of mine has a copying cutter, basically it'll follow one piece and copy it onto another. My 17hmr stock is too low for me, have a block of walnut marked out in shape of a thumbhole stock, just need get new blade for my bandsaw and I'll be started.

It wasn't me!

tfox wrote: »

Neighbour of mine has a copying cutter, basically it'll follow one piece and copy it onto another. My 17hmr stock is too low for me, have a block of walnut marked out in shape of a thumbhole stock, just need get new blade for my bandsaw and I'll be started.

Sounds perfect for stock-making!

Boiled-egg

Very interesting thread lad, will ye post photos as ye progress. It's something I'd love to try myself.

tfox

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Sounds perfect for stock-making!

He's made a new laminate stock for his .223 using it. turned out very well

4200fps

My dad was a carpenter by trade and often made gun stocks for shotguns in his younger days. He always did say that they were the hardest thing to make. Very very time consuming and he used to say if the wrong type of timber or grain pattern isn't right it be prone to crack. He has Alzheimers now so no point in me asking him about it. Do give it a go but don't give up hopes. If you know what your at and have fairly good experience with wood it could be the nicest thing you ever made. Practice makes perfect
Just out of interest he did mention that marley was the best wood to carve anything out of and never rots that its nearly like a plastic. I'm nearly sure that's the name of the wood he used to use many years back but he said it can't be got as i did remember asking him to teach me to carve. I think he used walnut/teak and mahogany as far as i remember on the shotgun stocks but i'm not 100% on that.

johnny65

Was considering making it out of polypropylene . Had a look at the densities of wood vs polypropylene . Polypropylene weighs in at 910 kg /m3. Pine was 600ish kg/m3. I might get in touch wit local polymer company and get a price for it . Problem is I dont think I'll be able to sand polypropylene smooth like you can wit wood as no grain .