Speed Vans - Operating within warning

Sully

Quick question. My understanding is the GoSafe vans must operate within an area that is covered by the traditional warning signs. But is there any actual definition of the maximum distance a van can operate from the sign?

There are plenty of stretches of road where you will be driving along for a good distance without any GoSafe zone, than you get the warning sign and generally a few hundred meters from the sign the van is in operation. A short distance from the van is the warning sign for traffic coming from the alternative direction.

Drive on for another few miles and you may come across another speed zone pre-warned with a new sign. Despite it all being on the same road (eg N25).

Do they have to operate within a certain distance from the signs, seeing as we get warnings for each zone that they operate in? I assume there is no maximum amount of KMs from a warning sign that the zone ends by default unless another warning sign is present?

kwalshe

I'm pretty sure this has been covered in the Speed Camera Megathread, did you have a look there.

This is a link to the exact locations
http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/Speed%20Collision%20Zones%20as%20of%2013.11.2010%20(by%20county).pdf

And there is a Google map detailing this on the Garda Site

Sully

kwalshe wrote: »

I'm pretty sure this has been covered in the Speed Camera Megathread, did you have a look there.

This is a link to the exact locations
http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/Speed%20Collision%20Zones%20as%20of%2013.11.2010%20(by%20county).pdf

And there is a Google map detailing this on the Garda Site

I'm not asking for the locations, I am just curious about how big a zone can be before you need to be warned again.

So on a 50 mile stretch of road for example - can the zone be setup to cover the full 50 miles with one warning sign on either end or do extra warning signs need to be placed after X km within that 50 mile stretch?

Not sure if I am explaining this well, hopefully I am!

MugMugs

Gardai can check your speed anywhere. Thie signs are not required for GATSO

Nissan doctor

I doubt very much that there has to be a warning sign at all.

For the most part, long before gosafe came along, they were just placed on random stretches around the country where you would rarely ever see a mobile camera let alone a fixed on.

The gosafe van itself has the camera warning sign on it anyway so this likely means that essentially, the sign is set up wherever the camera is.

Sully

MugMugs wrote: »

Gardai can check your speed anywhere. This signs are not required for GATSO

I'm referring to the GoSafe Vans, sorry.

Just looking at the length of various speed zones on the PDF, I assume it can be any length and there isn't a max/min size for a zone.

CiniO

Where speed zones are located you can check on the map.
Case is really simple - speed vans can operate within that zones.

Problem here is that when you enter a zone, you are warned by traffic sign, but there is not signs to indicate a place where you are leaving the zone.

So answering your question - van's can operate within the zones, so it can't be said how far from the sign they might stand.

CiniO

Nissan doctor wrote: »

I doubt very much that there has to be a warning sign at all.

For the most part, long before gosafe came along, they were just placed on random stretches around the country where you would rarely ever see a mobile camera let alone a fixed on.

The gosafe van itself has the camera warning sign on it anyway so this likely means that essentially, the sign is set up wherever the camera is.

But they have to operate within the zones which were officially listed, and those zones in most cases are signed by warning signs.

kwalshe

Sully wrote: »

I'm not asking for the locations, I am just curious about how big a zone can be before you need to be warned again.

So on a 50 mile stretch of road for example - can the zone be setup to cover the full 50 miles with one warning sign on either end or do extra warning signs need to be placed after X km within that 50 mile stretch?

Not sure if I am explaining this well, hopefully I am!

Ok I understand what you mean now. I drive about 1700k a week and I'm pretty aware of the detection zones all over most of the country and as far as I can recall, yes there is signs posted in each zone even if they are apart on the same road. I think I've spotted this on the N60 out of Roscommon, 2 zones fairly close together but 2 sets of signs

This map show the zones
http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=6497

GiftGrub100

Would advise you to purchase a sat nav, download the Ireland safety camera info and that will remind you that you are in a safety camera area if your speed creeps up to or over the limit. Reduces the risk of getting points and fined.

djimi

In fairness Gardai can stick a camera anywhere they like, so thinking that you are only going to get caught when you are in one of the camera zones, or that you are safe when you are out of them is ridiculous.

Sully

djimi wrote: »

In fairness Gardai can stick a camera anywhere they like, so thinking that you are only going to get caught when you are in one of the camera zones, or that you are safe when you are out of them is ridiculous.

I know all that plus I would spot the signs in advance and be well prepared. I was just thinking that some roads the distance between the two signs is pretty big, and others are pretty small but they are dotted out in random places on any given road.

My question was do the GoSafe vans, not the Guards or anybody else, have to operate within X distance from the warning signs and is there a maximum distance between the signs before a new warning has to go in place - for the GoSafe only!

It was a general question. The GoSafe vans are new enough and only operate within their set area. I was just curious what exactly the rules govern for their operating. Just them, nobody else.

listermint

Signs?

Ive never seen a road sign on the Belgard Road, yet the operate this stretch all of the time.

Infact ive seen the vans themselves have had no signage on them just red transit with all their usual bells and whistles but no vehicle signage

cookie2010

Hey all

Quick question aboutcthe gasto speed vans was driving along the slane road today there was the van on the opposite side the road rear doors facing towards oncoming traffic i was coming on the other side of the road so the fromt window facing me can them vans capture you from the front ? Or is it just oncoming traffic ????

Sully

cookie2010 wrote: »

Hey all

Quick question aboutcthe gasto speed vans was driving along the slane road today there was the van on the opposite side the road rear doors facing towards oncoming traffic i was coming on the other side of the road so the fromt window facing me can them vans capture you from the front ? Or is it just oncoming traffic ????

They can catch you either direction, but only from the back of the van where the camera is.

cookie2010

Sully wrote: »

cookie2010 wrote: »

Hey all

Quick question aboutcthe gasto speed vans was driving along the slane road today there was the van on the opposite side the road rear doors facing towards oncoming traffic i was coming on the other side of the road so the fromt window facing me can them vans capture you from the front ? Or is it just oncoming traffic ????

They can catch you either direction, but only from the back of the van where the camera is.

Ah ok so if i had slowed down by the time i ot past the van i should be ok ?? I noticed it straight away about 100 meters on the other side slowed right down under the limit coming up to ig and after i passed it .

Sully

cookie2010 wrote: »

Ah ok so if i had slowed down by the time i ot past the van i should be ok ?? I noticed it straight away about 100 meters on the other side slowed right down under the limit coming up to ig and after i passed it .

Yeah, the cameras are at the back door so if you have slowed down when passing your fine. There are no cameras at the front or side.

Our man in Havana

Go safe do not legally need any signs at all. There is no legal basis. The signs are merely a courtesy.