Rte coverage of National League

harpsman

Thought it was pretty bad that Rte only had footage of 2 of the Div 1 games on Sunday-there was only 4 games ffs and they all had something at stake- surely it wasnt asking much to send 1 camera to each game.
From what I hear the hurling coverage has been pretty shoddy too.
Still, as long as Marian still gets her 400k for 4 hours a week...

JimmyR

I agree the coverage of the league has been poor overall, its a shame they don't put more effort into it. The GAA should insist on a better highlights package for the league as its one of their primary competitions and they should be using it to market themselves.

I read recently that RTE may cut back live sports events due the costs involved. It amazes me that RTE could justify paying extraordinary salaries to ordinary presenters when there was no competition for their presence and couldn't invest the same money in actual content that people want.

Realistically who is going to pay even half of the salary that current RTE Stars are on, not TV3, not SKY, not the BBC, so its a shame they don't pay the stars what their worth and use the remaining money to invest in proper programming. I would be biased towards GAA but other sport and homegrown programmes would be money better spent.

As for the GAA they should offer the coverage of the league at a reasonable price and give the rights to whoever is going to offer the best coverage to maximise the marketing potential of the leagues. It'd be great to see some of the highlights from all the divisions, certainly the top games.

Pisco Sour

harpsman wrote: »

Thought it was pretty bad that Rte only had footage of 2 of the Div 1 games on Sunday-there was only 4 games ffs and they all had something at stake- surely it wasnt asking much to send 1 camera to each game.From what I hear the hurling coverage has been pretty shoddy too.
Still, as long as Marian still gets her 400k for 4 hours a week...

Welcome to every single minority sport in Ireland! GAA has it pretty sweet for live TV coverage. Don't know what you are moaning about. It's like a fat American complaining he doesn't have enough to eat, when there are millions starving in Africa.

Harsh comparison I will admit.

ardmacha

Welcome to every single minority sport in Ireland! GAA has it pretty sweet for live TV coverage

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The GAA is not a minority sport.
There is little interest in some other sports, so of course RTÉ does not devote time to them.

harpsman

04072511 wrote: »

Welcome to every single minority sport in Ireland! GAA has it pretty sweet for live TV coverage. Don't know what you are moaning about. It's like a fat American complaining he doesn't have enough to eat, when there are millions starving in Africa.

Harsh comparison I will admit.

Harsh, and pretty stoopid imho.
I agree that theres alot of live gaa on over the summer-far too much if u ask me,although the gaa cut down on the amount rte can show last year.

The point im making is that in an hour long programme its not too much to ask that they could show brief highlights of all 4,yes all 4 of the top division games.

Couldnt imagine Match of the Day not showing any footage of half that days premier league games.

As for minority sports,nuttin to do with this discussion really.

Alaska1

There is a thread already on this is you look around.

GaaLad

JimmyR wrote: »

I agree the coverage of the league has been poor overall, its a shame they don't put more effort into it. The GAA should insist on a better highlights package for the league as its one of their primary competitions and they should be using it to market themselves.

I read recently that RTE may cut back live sports events due the costs involved. It amazes me that RTE could justify paying extraordinary salaries to ordinary presenters when there was no competition for their presence and couldn't invest the same money in actual content that people want.

Realistically who is going to pay even half of the salary that current RTE Stars are on, not TV3, not SKY, not the BBC, so its a shame they don't pay the stars what their worth and use the remaining money to invest in proper programming. I would be biased towards GAA but other sport and homegrown programmes would be money better spent.

As for the GAA they should offer the coverage of the league at a reasonable price and give the rights to whoever is going to offer the best coverage to maximise the marketing potential of the leagues. It'd be great to see some of the highlights from all the divisions, certainly the top games.

Wouldn't surprise me with them but that would be a silly move in my opinion. Live tv is the one key way for the traditional tv channel to stay relevant with twitter and the likes.

Clareman

RTÉ didn't have the rights to league games this year, I think it was TG4 for Sunday games and Setanta for Saturday games, I assume that RTÉ were using the feed supplied by these broadcasters.

dxhound2005

JimmyR wrote: »

I agree the coverage of the league has been poor overall, its a shame they don't put more effort into it. The GAA should insist on a better highlights package for the league as its one of their primary competitions and they should be using it to market themselves.

I read recently that RTE may cut back live sports events due the costs involved. It amazes me that RTE could justify paying extraordinary salaries to ordinary presenters when there was no competition for their presence and couldn't invest the same money in actual content that people want.

Realistically who is going to pay even half of the salary that current RTE Stars are on, not TV3, not SKY, not the BBC, so its a shame they don't pay the stars what their worth and use the remaining money to invest in proper programming. I would be biased towards GAA but other sport and homegrown programmes would be money better spent.

As for the GAA they should offer the coverage of the league at a reasonable price and give the rights to whoever is going to offer the best coverage to maximise the marketing potential of the leagues. It'd be great to see some of the highlights from all the divisions, certainly the top games.

Top salaries is one side of it but how much would be saved if they were all halved or reduced to a third? A much bigger consideration is TV licence evasion which denies RTE about €25 million in revenue every year.

Pisco Sour

ardmacha wrote: »

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The GAA is not a minority sport.
There is little interest in some other sports, so of course RTÉ does not devote time to them.

I never said GAA was a minority sport. I said that what the OP is complaining about, is what every single minority sport in Ireland has to put up with. For example, RTE haven’t shown the last 2 World Athletics Championships (we’re the only country in Europe not to). Sure, what’s that, It’s only the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet and contains probably the most recognisable figure in world sport at the moment! Many other sports in Ireland struggle with the same thing, trying to get a bit of exposure, which maybe just maybe might get more people here interested. So for this I have no sympathy that RTE failed to send a camera man to a couple of National League matches, which I’d bet didn’t have much more than a couple hundred people in attendance. The crowd the league attracts is for the most part shocking. GAA gets lots of coverage in the media. Probably a disproportionate amount given the fact that attendances at many championship games are not that great, so I don't see why it is a big deal that they didn't send a camera man to a league match that the vast majority of GAA fans even, wouldn't dream of turning up to the stadium for.

I don’t see how people could complain about GAA coverage in Ireland. It is excellent. It is widespread. There must be over 100 live games a year on Irish TV (a guess, anybody got accurate figures?), along with extensive previews and analysis. RTE is suffering a lot in this economic climate. Other sports are feeling the pinch badly in Ireland. GAA followers can cope with having a few uninspiring, low key games neglected by television.

People will always moan that they don't get more. It's the nature of the beast. But GAA gets a lot as it is.

Syferus

The GAA doesn't have a single live game on RTE or TV3 from the third Sunday in September to early May, all the while the premier club championships in both codes and the entirety of the leagues play out.

TG4 does a fine job, but it will only ever speak to the already converted and the few people who can understand Irish fluently.

The GAA, by far the biggest sporting organisation in the country, surrenders the shop window completely for about 75% of its major games. This is not something up for debate; this is a fact.

Don't masquerade distaste for the GAA as analysis about tv coverage.

Pisco Sour

Syferus wrote: »

The GAA doesn't have a single live game on RTE or TV3 from the third Sunday in September to early May, all the while the premier club championships in both codes and the entirety of the leagues play out.

TG4 does a fine job, but it will only ever speak to the already converted and the few people who can understand Irish fluently.
The GAA, by far the biggest sporting organisation in the country, surrenders the shop window completely for about 75% of its major games. This is not something up for debate; this is a fact.

Don't masquerade distaste for the GAA as analysis about tv coverage.

What's the problem? You have the games on the TV. Go watch them. You can't speak Irish? That's your own issue. (You meaning plural)

GAA has widespread coverage on Irish TV. Are we now complaining that it isn't all on English-speaking TV?

deisedude

04072511 wrote: »

What's the problem? You have the games on the TV. Go watch them. You can't speak Irish? That's your own issue. (You meaning plural)

GAA has widespread coverage on Irish TV. Are we now complaining that it isn't all on English-speaking TV?

I think TG4's coverage is great but Syferus is right, the casual fan won't be arsed watching games in Irish.
A different sport i know, but it would be interesting to compare Magners league games on TG4 and RTE to see what a big difference it makes to ratings