New cellphone chip will pinpoint your location on planet earth within centimeters.

Run_to_da_hills

With the increasing roll out of invasive powers by the authorities I would be wary of any potential advancements in invasive technology.

Smart phones today have the capabilities to remotely accessed by a third party (Authorities) if they suspect "subversive" activity. This would include the microphone, forward facing camera, text messages, emails, etc etc and with this new microchip will be able to pinpoint your exact location within centimeters.

More a reason to invest in a faraday wallet for your phone when you do not want to disclose your location.

Broadcom has just rolled out a chip for smart phones that promises to indicate location ultra-precisely, possibly within a few centimeters, vertically and horizontally, indoors and out.

The unprecedented accuracy of the Broadcom 4752 chip results from the sheer breadth of sensors from which it can process information. It can receive signals from global navigation satellites, cell-phone towers, and Wi-Fi hot spots, and also input from gyroscopes, accelerometers, step counters, and altimeters.


http://www.technologyreview.com/communications/40075/?p1=A1

CiaranMT

Did you not post this a while ago?

Run_to_da_hills

CiaranMT wrote: »

Did you not post this a while ago?

No,

You are probably confusing this with a similar thread that I started a while back about pinpointing your location within a few meters.

hooradiation

Excellent. The GPS on my phone isn't the most accurate. Any improvement is welcome.

kaahooters

dosent a Faraday wallet defeat teh purpose of having a mobile phone, if no signal can get out, how are you to get incoming calls......

RoboClam

May as well just use a payphone or something if that's the case.

Run_to_da_hills

kaahooters wrote: »

dosent a Faraday wallet defeat teh purpose of having a mobile phone, if no signal can get out, how are you to get incoming calls......

That's the whole idea, it cuts off all communication both incoming and outgoing.

It would be very handy for someone that wanted to travel to a prearranged meet without the fear of being tracked or being eavesdropped by the authorities. The alternative would be to remove the battery or leave the device at home. These wallets are particularly useful for IPhone's which have built in batteries.

kaahooters

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

That's the whole idea, it cuts off all communication both incoming and outgoing.

It would be very handy for someone that wanted to travel to a prearranged meet without the fear of being tracked or being eavesdropped by the authorities. The alternative would be to remove the battery or leave the device at home. These wallets are particularly useful for IPhone's which have built in batteries.

i really dont get your point, so heres a picture of a bunny with pancakes on its head

Daithi 1

Have you not got an equally hilarious picture in a smaller size ?:mad:

Run_to_da_hills

kaahooters wrote: »

i really dont get your point, so heres a picture of a bunny with pancakes on its head

Derogatory posts like this should have no part in this forum

RoboClam

kaahooters wrote: »

i really dont get your point, so heres a picture of a bunny with pancakes on its head

If you aren't going to contribute to the discussion, then don't post it.

hooradiation

kaahooters wrote: »

i really dont get your point, so heres a picture of a bunny with pancakes on its head

You're not alone in that.
When you're considering using a Faraday wallet because you fear being "tracked or being eavesdropped by the authorities" maybe you should just not have a mobile phone in the first place. Buying or creating something with the express purpose of rendering something else you've bought temporarily inoperable seems sub-optimal at best.

Though I'm also at a loss as to what I could be doing that required me to guard against such tracking or evesdropping that wouldn't also be massively illegal so i guess this is all academic rather than practical.

frag420

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

With the increasing roll out of invasive powers by the authorities I would be wary of any potential advancements in invasive technology.

Smart phones today have the capabilities to remotely accessed by a third party (Authorities) if they suspect "subversive" activity. This would include the microphone, forward facing camera, text messages, emails, etc etc and with this new microchip will be able to pinpoint your exact location within centimeters. [/QUOTE]

So they will be able to get pics of my ear and side of my head??

Run_to_da_hills

hooradiation wrote: »

You're not alone in that.
When you're considering using a Faraday wallet because you fear being "tracked or being eavesdropped by the authorities" maybe you should just not have a mobile phone in the first place. Buying or creating something with the express purpose of rendering something else you've bought temporarily inoperable seems sub-optimal at best.

There is an increasing number of countries around the world where one can be tracked down and persecuted for religious or secular beliefs and motives that would be considered subversive by the authorities.

hooradiation wrote: »

Though I'm also at a loss as to what I could be doing that required me to guard against such tracking or evesdropping that wouldn't also be massively illegal so i guess this is all academic rather than practical.

There is already a motion going through in the UK to allow local authorities access to server provider databases.

frag420 wrote: »

So they will be able to get pics of my ear and side of my head??

Yes if you were on the phone at the same time as snapshots were taken. :rolleyes:

hooradiation

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There is an increasing number of countries around the world where one can be tracked down and persecuted for religious or secular beliefs and motives that would be considered subversive by the authorities.

And that bears what relevance to what I said, exactly?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There is already a motion going through in the UK to allow local authorities access to server provider databases.

And again same question?

Run_to_da_hills

hooradiation wrote: »

And that bears what relevance to what I said, exactly?


And again same question?

Just because someone wants to use whatever measure that is available to secure their privacy on any tracking device cell phone does not necessary mean that they are engaging in criminal activity as you seem to insinuate in your post.

Signal blocking wallets have other uses such in petro chemical plants, IC units in hospitals, cinemas etc where one wants to temporary shield a phone without having to switch it off.

espinolman

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There is an increasing number of countries around the world where one can be tracked down and persecuted for religious or secular beliefs and motives that would be considered subversive by the authorities.

I have books by L.Ron Hubbard , what am i to do when i go to Russia !

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=blogsearch&cd=19&ved=0CGgQmAEwCDgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Frt.com%2Fnews%2Fscientology-court-extremist-literature-116%2F&ei=WVuHT-j-FcyYhQecypTWCA&usg=AFQjCNEqlAnpDKj1GBLvWu784m3IjrVlBg&sig2=hrjDLlx4ziHRucb02tsi-Q

Run_to_da_hills

espinolman wrote: »

I have books by L.Ron Hubbard , what am i to do when i go to Russia !

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=blogsearch&cd=19&ved=0CGgQmAEwCDgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Frt.com%2Fnews%2Fscientology-court-extremist-literature-116%2F&ei=WVuHT-j-FcyYhQecypTWCA&usg=AFQjCNEqlAnpDKj1GBLvWu784m3IjrVlBg&sig2=hrjDLlx4ziHRucb02tsi-Q

Get a Kindle.

hooradiation

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Just because someone wants to use whatever measure that is available to secure their privacy on any tracking device cell phone does not necessary mean that they are engaging in criminal activity as you seem to insinuate in your post.

No.
My point was I couldn't think of a reason for me to need a faraday wallet unless I was intent on breaking the law or massively concerned with the authorities spying on me for whatever reason.
I still can't.
And in the case of the latter wouldn't simply not owning a phone, or if I'm being childish "tracking device", be the better solution?

Also, I don't think there is a legitimate and legal problem that a faraday wallet would solve satisfactorily, aside from what I'm going to call "CT kudos". Think of it like people who own Macs but don't use them for image/video editing, but simply because of the status associated with it.

Which is harmless, of course, but the whole idea of needing one is just silly.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Signal blocking wallets have other uses such in petro chemical plants, IC units in hospitals, cinemas etc where one wants to temporary shield a phone without having to switch it off.

Which is lovely and all, but hardly relevant when we're talking about the 'danger' of being tracked by the authorities, is it?

Also, it's a needlessly complex and sub-optimal solution to a simple problem, which ties back to it being a worthless endeavour.

espinolman wrote: »

I have books by L.Ron Hubbard , what am i to do when i go to Russia !

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=blogsearch&cd=19&ved=0CGgQmAEwCDgK&url=http%3A%2F%2Frt.com%2Fnews%2Fscientology-court-extremist-literature-116%2F&ei=WVuHT-j-FcyYhQecypTWCA&usg=AFQjCNEqlAnpDKj1GBLvWu784m3IjrVlBg&sig2=hrjDLlx4ziHRucb02tsi-Q

Get better books?

SNAKEDOC

these posts make me laugh. beware the authorities can watch you from their sitting room and see what time it is on your watch from orbit. they are tracking your every move with a chip in your phone they control your thoughts. hey genius's have you heard of an ip address they know where you are right now. my god this is the real world not an amalgamation of james bond meet star trek. there are more pressing issues facing the country and the planet then worrying if someone knows that i'm sitting at my computer on boards conspiracy theory thread while simultaneously watching really bad porn. : "what else is the interweb for":p

zenno

Happy day's. I usually get flustered and end up in the fields of rolerstown drunk and always end up in a ditch somewhere so this would definitely be of benefit to me. bring it on.

partyatmygaff

If I knew that "they" wanted to find me, the last thing i'd be doing is carrying a phone. Those who have nothing to hide (And don't particularly care if a state employee is nonchalantly monitoring their conversation alongside tens of others) have nothing to worry about with what is essentially an improved version of GPS.

Run_to_da_hills

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

these posts make me laugh. beware the authorities can watch you from their sitting room and see what time it is on your watch from orbit. they are tracking your every move with a chip in your phone they control your thoughts. hey genius's have you heard of an ip address they know where you are right now. my god this is the real world not an amalgamation of james bond meet star trek. there are more pressing issues facing the country and the planet then worrying if someone knows that i'm sitting at my computer on boards conspiracy theory thread while simultaneously watching really bad porn. : "what else is the interweb for":p

Over two years ago alarm bells were ringing about ATCA and other invasive copyright measures being proposed and people like you were laughing about it.

Now two years later the horse has bolted and llitle or nothing was done to try to prevent it.

Likewise the same will happen with this technology when further invasive directives are put in place to coinside with this and little will be done about it also.

zenno

ACTA/SOPA/ all that junk is just not worth anyones time to think of, because in reality knowledge of by-passing this wasteland of crud is easily done.

No matter what internet laws come in, there will be a new program available to defeat it and this will be the case for as long as there is an internet connection to the worlds servers.

I have to laugh every time I hear this enactment of control by a government as most government officials and most politicians have no idea how computer code works nor did any of them ever encapsulate the meaning of understanding of computer security/code/ or the basic workings of a computer for that matter. They will employ people 'hackers white hat' to monitor and try and take down certain world server websites but LOL I have to say it will be a waste of time as the people that will be working in this field will be the ones of the black hat attire and will cause a nice little rumpus with the white hat and as they fight for dominance we in the background will be plugging our servers to UN-localazied locations. umm the bahamas sounds good.

Fly me to the moon Let me play among the stars
Let me see what spring is like
On a, Jupiter and Mars.

Jonny7

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Over two years ago alarm bells were ringing about ATCA and other invasive copyright measures being proposed and people like you were laughing about it.

Now two years later the horse has bolted and llitle or nothing was done to try to prevent it.

Likewise the same will happen with this technology when further invasive directives are put in place to coinside with this and little will be done about it also.

Yes but you are under much more threat from theft or cyber theft than from government surveillance. Ironically this tech is what helps protect you from this theft in the first place.

ODuill

If you want the spy software, here it is.

Run_to_da_hills

ODuill wrote: »

If you want the spy software, here it is.

You can guarantee the Authorities would have much better than whats available to the public.

I see the price gas dropped considerably. About two years ago Phobe Dead was over €750 for the very basic one to one phone version.

zenno

partyatmygaff wrote: »

If I knew that "they" wanted to find me, the last thing i'd be doing is carrying a phone. Those who have nothing to hide (And don't particularly care if a state employee is nonchalantly monitoring their conversation alongside tens of others) have nothing to worry about with what is essentially an improved version of GPS.

Theres an app for that lol as always if you can work with program code you can be one step ahead. but privacy is paramount but there again most people are obvivious to it so thats their problem. always be one step ahead or give up using the latest technology