Ringfort?

Jakub25

I found this on the osi map and checked monument database it's not registerd.
Who, should i report that place?

Gee Bag

That looks like it has potential. Looks way too big to be a ringfort though! Try google earth to see if you can get more detail.

Suspected sites should be reported to the Archaeological Survey of Ireland. The ASI don't have a central office, they are spread out across Ireland. If you tell me what county the site is in I can forward on the contact details.

slowburner

Looks like the tracks left where a vehicle turned around. There are similar, regularly spaced tracks through the field.

Riamfada

Im assuming there is nothing on the 6"?

Jakub25

There is nothing on the 6" and google earth.
In my opinion it looks like two rings.
Tracks of vehicle are straight but as well i see there circular shapes.

slowburner

Try here for an alternative view http://www.bing.com/maps/
The aerial photography is very good from this site, at least it is for my neck of the woods.
I saw the rings alright, but I still think they are tracks.
I hope I'm wrong.
The 2000 aerial photos on the OSI site sometimes give more information than the 2005 images because they were taken during a very dry period when there was very limited grass growth - this frequently reveals features not evident in the 2005 images.
The lighter markings could indicate a ploughed out earthwork.

Jakub25

I found another strange circle, what is visable only on the osi 2005.
Nothing on th google earth and bing.
What can it be, enclosure?

slowburner

Jakub25 wrote: »

I found another strange circle, what is visable only on the osi 2005.
Nothing on th google earth and bing.
What can it be, enclosure?

If the circles are only visible at one date, then they are almost definitely vehicle tracks or possibly a fungus pattern in the crop.
What part of the country are you looking at?

cfuserkildare

Hi Jakub25,

The marks are still visible in the other maps just very faint,

I contacted the National / Natural History Museum (can't remember which) but after a while they replied.

As a side note, It looks more like an enclosure, possibly bronze age or more recent.

Jakub25

Those two from county Laois, number 4 is near holy well.

cfuserkildare

Hi Jakub25,

The marks are still visible in the other maps just very faint, (Different light Conditions)

I contacted the National / Natural History Museum (can't remember which) but after a while they replied. (In relation to an enclosure I found in Wicklow)

As a side note, It looks more like an enclosure, possibly bronze age or more recent.

Just to make things a little clearer.

bogwalrus

Ok this sparked an interested. So i started just looking on google maps in my area for any "circles". By chance i found one in Dunmany out the road that is'nt on that historical register thing. What ya think=)

bogwalrus

Not sure if those images worked so ill try these:

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/1817/ringdun2000.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1803/ringdunortho1.jpg

Current
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7577/ringfortdunmany1.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8351/ringfortdunmany3.jpg

current
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7823/ringfortdunmany2.jpg

slowburner

bogwalrus wrote: »

Not sure if those images worked so ill try these:

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/1817/ringdun2000.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1803/ringdunortho1.jpg

Current
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7577/ringfortdunmany1.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8351/ringfortdunmany3.jpg

current
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7823/ringfortdunmany2.jpg

The ovals look a bit like marks you'd see in a training paddock for horses.
The black and white image (1995 OSI) seems to show a ditch with a possible gateway to the north. The ditch seems fairly recent in the 2005 image - you can see bare soil.
Any sign of it in the 6" map?

There was an interesting ring in the V of the second field to the west - now built on.

bogwalrus

On Google streetmaps you see the ditch and it does look recent. They do look like training paddocks but not the two on the field to the right imo. On the 6" there is nothing other then some ring monuments more west. On the field that is built on there looks to be another circle now built on top of.

slowburner

Time for some investigatory legwork, methinks

yellowlabrador

The rings are definitely made by horses. It's called 'the fairy gardens' locally and is next to the river Bandon. The local manege use it for riding lessons and as the land can get boggy, they move the spot they exercise at.
All the land in that picture is prone to flooding including the new housing estate.
Of more interest to me is the foundations of a tower near my house. It's in the fields above Castle street and is on the old 6'' maps. I've done a bit of field walking and found quite a bit of pottery. The walls are stone and there are the ruins of a jacobean house nearby with a georgian house built next to the ruins. I've asked around and apart from some war of independence history with talk of tunnels etc no one knows. I personally think it's a watch tower related to the McCarthy castle by the river.

Jakub25

Possible rath or enclosure.

slowburner

Where is it? It looks interesting.
It's always worth checking to see if the site is known and listed, using the Monuments Viewer.

slowburner

Pretty sure it's a natural feature.
My guess is that it is a remnant of the old course of a stream.
This higher res. image shows the site from a different angle, and with low angle light.
It should help to see the natural feature more clearly.
If you check the field boundaries on the 1st edition map you can see how the boundaries followed the contours.






Interestingly enough, the SMR lists a possible enclosure in the adjacent field, that's the striped field immediately to the left of the one where you noted the circular feature, or the small green field at the top of the picture above.
It was based on observed crop marks. It was also noted as 'not visible at ground level' - like so many others.

goldiepark

The ASI website has a monument report form - might be worth your while submitting if you're still sure after checking their online database?

http://www.archaeology.ie/ArchaeologicalSurveyofIreland/#d.en.12841

http://www.archaeology.ie/media/archeologyie/PDFS/ASI%20Monument%20report%20form%20%28Jan%202012%29.pdf

Jakub25

Thank you for your replies, what can you tell me about those marked places. They're just at the south side of croghan mountain (co Wexford) close to big ringfort.

slowburner

Re. picture 1.
I think they are duck ponds - probably for rearing ducks for a shoot.
They were constructed some time after 1995.
Here is a higher resolution image of the same area




Picture 2 is odd.
If my interpretation of the location is correct from more recent imagery, it looks like more duck ponds.

(It might take a bit of time to see them in the image below)



What's odd, is that in the earlier image, the rings seem very much like the crop marks you'd expect with a ploughed out ring barrow, but in the later image it looks decidedly like a newish duck pond, just like the three in the first picture.
There are signs of some interesting earthworks around there.

Jakub25

Are those straight marks a old fields patterns below?
Close to that place is unrecorded earth work
probably bronze age.

http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,650001,662121,7,0

Jakub25

I found some more strange marks are they old fields.

http://goo.gl/maps/BHG6A

http://goo.gl/maps/0Updi

slowburner

They are field drains.