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Am I up sh*t creek?

  • 09-04-2012 11:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭


    I think I'm up sh*t creek.
    I have a second (500Gig) HD in my PC and it was the main HD of a PC in a previous life. It had two partitions, 40 and 460 gig. I was trying to extend the 460 gig partition to use the full disk. I deleted all the data from the 40 gig and extended, as I thought, the 460 gig to the full disk. Needless to say I never thought to backup the 460 gig before I started and now have a 500 gig HD with no data. Can the data be recovered or do I just live with the loss? In Disc Management the disc is shown as a basic disk with 465 gig unallocated?
    Any help, other than the obivious 'You should have backed up the drive before you started' would be appreciated.

    Fazer6.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭armitage_skanks


    How long did the repartition take?

    Provided the partition utility wasn't physically writing zeros all over the disk then its always possible to recover some of your data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Fazer6


    Less than one second. It was very quick.
    By the way, I was using Disk Management.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    Would resetting windows to a previous saved state work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Fazer6


    Do you mean do a system restore?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    Fazer6 wrote: »
    Do you mean do a system restore?

    Yeah sorry that's what i meant to say :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Fazer6


    Are you sure that will work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭seanp_25


    System Restore won't fix this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭smokiebeverage


    The partition table is all that is gone, the data is hasn't been overwritten most likely. Programs like http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk may be able to help


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    red dave wrote: »
    Would resetting windows to a previous saved state work?


    First thing would be to stop using the drive. Otherwise you risk overwriting your old data.

    I don't know, but I would doubt that system restore touches partitions.

    I think you're going to need to recover the partition. I've never done it, but something like this http://www.partition-recovery.com/ seems to be along the lines of what you want. I'm not recommending that, just pointing you in that direction for a solution. Theres probably free tools that can do that. Active File Recovery and Recuva etc,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    You,ll have to set that up as drive ,d,e ,f, a slave drive, and use another drive for windows,new drive, or put it into a caddy ,external drive.
    if you continue to use it ,windows will write, temp files,caching files,etc over the old data,making it harder to recover.
    see here http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/232360-35-which-software-recover-deleted-partition

    see http://www.ptdd.com/
    partition recovery software, its free.
    system restore ,is no use if you repartitioned the whole drive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Fazer6


    I have a second (500Gig) HD in my PC and it was the main HD of a different PC in a previous life. It had two partitions, 40 and 460 gig. I was trying to extend the 460 gig partition to use the full 500 gigs of the disk. I deleted all the data from the 40 gig and extended, as I thought, the 460 gig to the full disk. I have restored the 40 gig partition and I can now see the 460 gig drive in Disk Management as 'Healty, Primary Partition and 'Raw'. What do I do next?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    Fazer6 wrote: »
    What do I do next?

    Did you run TestDisk as suggested above?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    are you running windows from drive 2, or from the
    original 460 gig partition ,i think you ,ll have to run one of the partition restore recovery programs,cos windows probably marked 460 partition as new/ empty.
    did you just use disk management to resize the drive to 460 gig.right click 460 part ,what does it,say ,460gig free.200 free etc
    is 460 partition drive c,or d.?
    click on 460 part,explore,what does it say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Fazer6


    @Torqay.
    Yes I have, but I don't understand the instructions.
    I've found the drive/partition, but I can't follow the instructions on how to recover the partition. I don't know what are the correct options to choose to recover the drive. I'm afraid that if I choose the incorrect option(s) I'll lose all the data on the disk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Fazer6


    riclad wrote: »
    are you running windows from drive 2, or from the
    original 460 gig partition ,i think you ,ll have to run one of the partition restore recovery programs,cos windows probably marked 460 partition as new/ empty.
    did you just use disk management to resize the drive to 460 gig.right click 460 part ,what does it,say ,460gig free.200 free etc
    is 460 partition drive c,or d.?
    click on 460 part,explore,what does it say?

    @riclad.
    I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 on the C drive.
    The 460 gig partition is on a HDD that was the C&D drives of an older PC that was running Win XP on it. This is current PC has a new HDD with Win 7 on it and I used the 'old HDD' as a secondary drive, it was drives F&G, let's call it Disc 2. I was given another 320 gig HDD during the week and I installed it today, lets call it Disc 3. After the installation of Disc 3 I looked in Disk Management and I thought that I'd delete the partition on disc 2 that was called F. At that time I also managed to delete G. So now I have the following drives spread over 3 discs. I'll use the names given by disk management.
    Disc 0 C: This contains Windows 7 and programme files etc.
    Disc 1 G: The HDD that was installed today.
    Disc 2 F:& H: drives that I screwed up.
    The F: drive reads 14.65 GB NTFS, Healthy, Active, Primary Partition.
    The H: drive reads 451 GB RAW, Healthy, Active, Primary Partition.
    When I click on the 460 part I get an error message, H:\ is not accessible. The parameter is not correct.
    From the little that I can tell, the data is still all there but I don't have a partition table.
    I hope that this is of some use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    i think it says parameter not correct, it means disk,partition is not formatted,DO NOT format it.
    i think this would work,

    http://www.easeus.com/partition-recovery/
    just install it, point it at partition 460,
    see Recover files after partitioning error.thats part of its
    capability.
    you may need to point it at the drive thttp://www.easeus.com/partition-recovery/help/using-easeus-partition-recovery.htmhat has part 460,and say recover partition.
    see above,
    see here, quote;2. In the Searching Area Setting window, you can choose a specified area to search for the lost partitions. There are four searching areas:

    Search Entire Disk ; endquote

    it should find lost 460 part and give you option,
    ,results,
    do complete search, not quick search.

    if it finds lost partitions,

    ie 2, 460gig, and 40 ,gig,
    click, PROCEED ,
    that starts the actual recovery process.

    FIRST, backup ,40gig partition,if thers any important data on it .

    i dont know if this will work,
    i never used this program,
    i,m just going by the online manual.
    USE IT at your own risk.
    post back here , if it works,or see s the old partitions.

    my advice search entire drive that has 460 part,first,
    for lost partitions.
    use COMPLETE search mode.


    http://www.easeus.com/partition-recovery/help/using-easeus-partition-recovery.htm
    see above.

    launch program,search drive x for lost partitions,
    search complete mode ,wait and see does it find em.


    ie search disk 2,complete , if it finds em, click proceed,wait
    it could take some time to actually recover them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    post back here after doing the search etc did it work,do you need more advice?
    you are looking for lost or deleted partitions.
    dont format either drive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Fazer6


    Thanks riclad, will do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    if you have a choice 1st,

    just recover partition 460 , least 2nd part alone ,if you can.
    you made 2 changes to partition ,so i,ve no idea if it will work,,
    theres other options like testdisk, ubcd, ultimate boot disk,
    which may find deleted partition.
    if possible leave 40 gig part as is .
    menu may say recover all lost partitions?460g, 40g, if so,click

    yes ,proceed ,wait. .i just checked,
    testdisk can recover lost ,or deleted partitions,

    see http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/232360-35-which-software-recover-deleted-partition

    heres the guide
    recover deleted partition
    http://www.ptdd.com/recoverdeletedpartition.htm

    so it gives you a choice ,select WHICH partition to recover.
    chose 460gig one.only.
    click ,proceed ,wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    Gparted [1] and TestDisk [2] (it's included in gparted)

    [1] http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
    [2] http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    testdisk is the best choice ,if the other program doesnt work,or it fails to find the partition,
    see http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step

    looks easy to use, just dont rush it,take it step by step.
    see here
    http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download version 6.4 ,download and install,


    if you use gparted you,ll need to make a live cd,bootable cdr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭CaSCaDe711


    This software (EaseUS Partition Master Home Edition) saved me a lot of hassle/time recently:

    http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    this might be useful,
    http://www.partition-tool.com/partition-recovery-wizard/recover-repartitioned-drives.htm
    as posted above,

    it seems easy to use ,you may need to use manual,mode to find the 460 partition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭CaSCaDe711


    OP, any luck? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Fazer6


    Hello All.

    I'm sorry for the delay in replying to all you posts, work and a faulty router got in the way.

    I tried Test Disc and also Erasus Partition recovery. Both saw the missing partition but neither would recover it, most likely something that I was or wasn't doing correctly.
    Erasus told me that the partition table was corrupted and reccommended to use Partition Table Doctor.
    I used Partition Table Doctor to analyise the hard drive and recover the partition table. It took about three hours but it was worth the wait.
    Thanks again to all the Boardies who took the time to look at my problem and offer a multitiude of solutions.

    Best regards.

    Fazer6.


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