Dulux oil based "brilliant white" turning yellow

paddy147

Dulux have paid out thousands of pounds in compensation to customers in the UK,due to their oil based brilliant white paint turning yellow after a few weeks.:eek:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/9188572/Dulux-pays-thousands-in-compensation-after-Brilliant-White-emulsion-fades-to-yellow.html


Im wondering if anyone has had this happen to them over here with any of their Dulux paints??

Thanks.:)

cardwizzard

Yeah I have being harping on about it for the last few years. It really is disgraceful. In fairness its not just Dulux, its all crap.

Really disappointing to see, as you can put your heart into a job, and its almost magnolia a few weeks later. There blue lid , is crap to. The EU regs are messed up beyond believe, as all voc's arent bad. Don't get me started, I have done upteem samples of oilbased paints, in white and it really is poor.

Hybrid paints, aren't up to pace yet IMO, but hopefully in a few years we will get something worthy.

Zardoz

Have Dulux solved this issue since or is it still a problem?

I have to paint all the 4 panel doors in my house and I'm trying to decide on a paint.
They have previously been painted in oil based gloss .

I'd like to stick with oil again as it gives a tougher and better looking finish over a water based paint .
I've the doors sanded down ,caulked and primed in the worn areas with bin primer.

Now to decide on using oil based gloss or the hybrid water based Dulux Quick Dry Gloss and undercoat.

volono

the water based undercoat is fine to use, it dries in afew hours so means you can gloss on the same day. I would strongly recommend not using the water based gloss, as another post mentioned it's just not fit for purpose at the moment. They'll have to improve upon it dramatically imo because slowly but surely all oil based paints will be phased out

MarkAnthony

I thought the water based stuff was grand personally. It's been on about 3-4 months, seems okay. I defer to the more experienced though.

ronan45

A Painter told me (Possibly an excuse for bad paint work) that all White Oil Based Gloss will yellow indoors expecially with lack of Sunlight
How true or untrue this is i dont know!

Zardoz

volono wrote: »

the water based undercoat is fine to use, it dries in afew hours so means you can gloss on the same day. I would strongly recommend not using the water based gloss, as another post mentioned it's just not fit for purpose at the moment. They'll have to improve upon it dramatically imo because slowly but surely all oil based paints will be phased out

So you think that the oil based gloss is a better bet ?

I've already painted the skirting boards with water based satinwood.
Its not bad I guess ,not a great finish but not too bad and its very easy to work with.
I had to sand the previously oil based gloss paint down pretty well to get the water based paint to stick properly but it seems to be sticking well.

newacc2015

ronan45 wrote: »

A Painter told me (Possibly an excuse for bad paint work) that all White Oil Based Gloss will yellow indoors expecially with lack of Sunlight
How true or untrue this is i dont know!

A painter told me most paints are yellowing within 6 months generally. The formulas have changed and the paints arent great

MarkAnthony

newacc2015 wrote: »

A painter told me most paints are yellowing within 6 months generally. The formulas have changed and the paints arent great

The formulas where changed on oil based gloss to bring them within some EU reg. It's why water based started appearing. I has awful problems with older oil based gloss yellowing (this issue has been going on for some time). No issues so far with water based, including some that's about a year old in a humid bathroom.

irelandspurs

Oil based paints now yellow fast especially in areas with no natural light. water based paints stay white but are harder to use and to get a nice finish. Hybrid paints will yellow over time but not as quick. An example of a hydrid is Jonestones aqua gloss/satin.
A good tip when using waterbased/hybrid is to have a clean, damp cloth and wipe the surface your painting prior to applying the paint,use a good quality synthetic brush and apply the paint, lay off and leave. Don't treat it like you would oil based paint and keep going over it as it will start dragging.

Zardoz

irelandspurs wrote: »

Oil based paints now yellow fast especially in areas with no natural light. water based paints stay white but are harder to use and to get a nice finish. Hybrid paints will yellow over time but not as quick. An example of a hydrid is Jonestones aqua gloss/satin.
A good tip when using waterbased/hybrid is to have a clean, damp cloth and wipe the surface your painting prior to applying the paint,use a good quality synthetic brush and apply the paint, lay off and leave. Don't treat it like you would oil based paint and keep going over it as it will start dragging.

The Johnstones Aqua looks a good option ,I might give that a go.
Its supposed to knacker the brush though ,causing it to gum up like with an oil based paint.
Needs two coats of gloss too to get a decent finish .

irelandspurs

Yeah it does and some brushes quicker than others, make sure you give it a good stir each time and I've found the purdy monarch last the longest with it. Buy some clean spirit to wash the brush out with it and every hour or so wash the brush out with water.

MaryMD

This is very disappointing as I have just used this indoors hope the issue has been resolved. I might contact them