World 15 Selections

Donnielighto

Me and my mate picked two world 15s with a draft. We each needed 1 uncapped player. Teams are.....

Team 1

1. Tony Woodcock
2. William Servat
3. Martin Castrogiovanni
4. Richie Gray
5. James Horwill
6. Rocky Elsom
7. Richie McCaw
8. Mamuka Gorgodze

9. Morgan Parra
10. Johnny Sexton
11. Simon Zebo
12. Jamie Roberts
13. Conrad Smith
14. Isa Nacewa
15. Rob Kearney


Team 2

1. Cian Healy
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Mike Ross
4. Brad Thorn
5. Ali Williams
6. Stephen Ferris
7. Sam Warburton
8. Imanol Harinordoquy

9. Ruan Pienaar
10. Dan Carter
11. Digby Ioane
12. Ma'a Nonu
13. Sonny Bill Williams
14. Tommy Bowe
15. Israel Dagg

Wayne Barnes to ref it btw.

tolosenc

I know Leinster are good, but I don't think we have a quarter of the world's top 30 players...

Clegg

Nacewa is a magnificent fullback and a very good wing. But he isn't one of the best wings in the world.

And Healy isn't even the best LH in Europe, let alone the world.

JoeyDoh

Surely it's not a world XV if you have to pick an unproven uncapped player?

Hagz

It doesn't say best XV in world, it says world XV. As in a XV with players from around the world.

Fireball07

I think Team 2 would win, but there are some questionable decisions on both.

Because I'm bored, I decided to make a team using players not included in the first 2. I'll even throw in an uncapped player.

15. Kurtley Beale
14. Tim Visser
13. Brian O'Driscoll
12. Francois Steyn
11. George North
10. Morne Steyn
9. Fourie du Preez
8. Sergio Parisse
7. David Pocock
6. Thierry Dusautoir
5. Paul O'Connell
4. Bakkies Botha
3. Nicolas Mas
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Soane Tonga'uiha


I'd fancy my team :P

[Jackass]

Weird.

Hard to say, Team 1's pack is far superior imo, but team 2's backline is far superior.

defadman

15 Rob Kearney
14 Vincent Clerc
13 Brian O'Driscoll
12 Ma'nonu
11 George North
10 Dan carter
9 Mike Phillips
8 Sergio Parisse
7 Richie Mcaw
6 Thierry Dusatoir
5 Paul O'Connell
4 Richie Gray
3 Mike Ross
2 William Servat
1 Gethin Jenkins

A team of game-changers IMO

WinnyThePoo

1.G. Jenkins
2.S. Moore
3. N. Mas
4. Ali Williams
5. B. Thorn circa 2011 world cup.
6. S.Ferris
7. R.McGaw
8. S. Parisse
9. D.Yachvili
10. D.Carter..the new zealand lad.
11. Tim Visser( un capped)
12. S. Bill Willams
13. J. Fourie ..pre japan.
14. G. North
15. K.Beale

Deano7788

5 scrum halves picked and Genia isn't 1 of them:eek:

Cardinal Richelieu

Donnielighto wrote: »

Wayne Barnes to ref it btw.

I thought this was a serious post until I read that.

Fireball07

Deano7788 wrote: »

5 scrum halves picked and Genia isn't 1 of them:eek:

I had Genia. But I like Du Preez more.

Donnielighto

Clegg wrote: »

And Healy isn't even the best LH in Europe, let alone the world.

Maybe but Castro was picked beforehand and Healy has a good record against him.

Wrt the Leinster players in my team Healy as above, Strauss for the uncapped player even though he isn't the best. Ross and thorn are there because they are up with the best in the world.

Hagz

Donnielighto wrote: »

Ross and thorn are there because they are up with the best in the world.

Ross?? hmmm

Up there with Castrogiovanni, Franks, Mas, Cole, Jones, Ayerza?

Deano7788

Fireball07 wrote: »

I had Genia. But I like Du Preez more.

Yeah, I can never really decide between the 2 of them, I think they're definitely the top 2 in the world. I think Du Preez was often limited by the tactics he was forced to follow, where all he nearly did was box kick the ball for Habana and Pieterson to run onto and comptet for.

I was just shocked that even Phillips was named before Genia.

Fireball07

Donnielighto wrote: »

Maybe but Castro was picked beforehand and Healy has a good record against him.

Wrt the Leinster players in my team Healy as above, Strauss for the uncapped player even though he isn't the best. Ross and thorn are there because they are up with the best in the world.

Ross is never one of the best props in the world. He's been absolutely crucial for Leinster and Ireland, but that's simply because he is a good scrummager. Not a brilliant one (imo) and the rest of his game is very limited but that's okay from our point of view because when he goes, things like what happened on Paddy's day happen.

Deano7788 wrote: »

Yeah, I can never really decide between the 2 of them, I think they're definitely the top 2 in the world. I think Du Preez was often limited by the tactics he was forced to follow, where all he nearly did was box kick the ball for Habana and Pieterson to run onto and comptet for.

I was just shocked that even Phillips was named before Genia.

Yeah, that is shocking.

Deano7788

An attempt to pick a 15 using none of the players already mentioned:

1.Guthro Steenkamp
2.Rory Best
3.Owen Franks
4.Alun Wyn Jones
5.Courtney Lawes
6.Jerome Kaino
7.Heinrich Brussow
8.Kieran Read
9.Will Genia
10. Nick Evans
11.Julian Savea (uncapped)
12.James O'Connor
13.Manu Tuilagi
14.Cory Jane
15. Maxime Medard

I think this would still be a match for any of the other teams mentioned.
Edit: Evans for Sexton. Thanks Fireball07

Fireball07

Deano7788 wrote: »

An attempt to pick a 15 using none of the players already mentioned:

1.Guthro Steenkamp
2.Rory Best
3.Owen Franks
4.Alun Wyn Jones
5.Courtney Lawes
6.Jerome Kaino
7.Heinrich Brussow
8.Kieran Read
9.Will Genia
10.Jonny Sextom
11.Julian Savea (uncapped)
12.James O'Connor
13.Manu Tuilagi
14.Cory Jane
15. Maxime Medard

I think this would still be a match for any of the other teams mentioned.

Strong team but Sexton was mentioned.

wonton

Clegg wrote: »

And Healy isn't even the best LH in Europe, let alone the world.

In fairness Healy was the only irish player to make in to quite a few "team of the world cup" lists , and he hasn't gone down that much since then.

liammur

Fireball07 wrote: »

I think Team 2 would win, but there are some questionable decisions on both.

Because I'm bored, I decided to make a team using players not included in the first 2. I'll even throw in an uncapped player.

15. Kurtley Beale
14. Tim Visser
13. Brian O'Driscoll
12. Francois Steyn
11. George North
10. Morne Steyn
9. Fourie du Preez
8. Sergio Parisse
7. David Pocock
6. Thierry Dusautoir
5. Paul O'Connell
4. Bakkies Botha
3. Nicolas Mas
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Soane Tonga'uiha


I'd fancy my team :P

You'd have to be bored to reply, probably the daftest thread I've ever had the misfortune of looking at.

Tigerandahalf

I wouldn't pick Healy. He is still a weak scrummager. It will be interesting to see if he does develop further or just plateaus. There are a heck of a lot of guys in the SH we wouldn't know too much about and who will be part of the Tri-Nations in a few months. A lot depends on form and how well teams are doing. In some positions you could pick 3/4 guys who would all do an excellent job, e.g. scrumhalf. However, the 13 jersey is pretty open and there is no outstanding player in that position at the moment.

Clegg

Conrad Smith is the best 13 in the world.

He has been since 2010 imo.

Healy has improved as a scrummager since his horror show against Toulouse in 2010. Hes only 24 so he has plenty of time to improve. Right now his scrummaging is decent, but not on the level of someone like Jenkins.

Clegg

Clegg wrote: »

Healy has improved as a scrummager since his horror show against Toulouse in 2010. Hes only 24 so he has plenty of time to improve. Right now his scrummaging is decent, but not on the level of someone like Jenkins.

i agree and to be fair most fellas dont become elite scrummagers till 27-28 anyway

Kev_2012

1 - Soane Tonga'uiha
2 - William Servat
3 - Martin Castrogiovanni
4 - Alun Wyn Jones
5 - Paul O'Connell
6 - Stephen Ferris/Sean O'Brien (find it hard to choose!)
7 - Richie McCaw
8 - Sergio Parisse
9 - Mike Phillips
10 - Dan Carter
11 - Digby Ioane
12 - Ma'a Nonu
13 - Conrad Smith
14 - Isa Nacewa(Just look at his try in the HC 1/4 final last year, unbelievable!)
15 - Rob Kearney

Munster fan here. I think Nacewa would start for the All Blacks if he hadn't played for Fiji.

RoundBox11

I was wondering there recently if there was a Northern Hemisphere V Southern hemisphere match who would I pick. Its pointless i know but these would be my picks:

Northern Hemisphere:

15. Kearney
14. Malzieu
13. BOD
12. Johnathan Davies
11. North
10. Sexton
9. Yachvili
8. Harinorduquay
7. Warburton
6. Ferris
5. POC
4. Richie Gray
3. Castrogiovanni
2. Servat
1. Jenkins


Southern Hemisphere:

15. Beale
14. Habana/O'Conner
13. Conrad Smith
12. Nonu
11. Ioane
10. Carter
9. Genia
8. Spies
7. Pocock
6. Kaino
5. Thorn
4. Horwill
3. O. Franks
2. B. du Plessis
1. Tonga'uiha

almighty1

Clegg wrote: »

And Healy isn't even the best LH in Europe, let alone the world.

Name a better LH in Europe?

Hagz

almighty1 wrote: »

Name a better LH in Europe?

Thomas Domingo

Clegg

almighty1 wrote: »

Name a better LH in Europe?

Gethin Jenkins

Healy is more dynamic in open play but I'd pick Jenkins because hes a better scrummager.

Hes only 24 so he has plenty of time to improve his technique.

almighty1

Clegg wrote: »

Gethin Jenkins
...... I'd pick Jenkins because hes a better scrummager.

If even. Got destroyed by Ross on Saturday, Healys scrummaging has come on leaps and bounds in the last few years.

Healy is like an extra backrow forward he is that good in the loose, quicker than any of his competitors and tackles like a monster. IMO he is easily the top LH in Europe.

Clegg

almighty1 wrote: »

If even. Got destroyed by Ross on Saturday, Healys scrummaging has come on leaps and bounds in the last few years.

Healy is like an extra backrow forward he is that good in the loose, quicker than any of his competitors and tackles like a monster. IMO he is easily the top LH in Europe.

Thats because Jenkins played with a very average tighthead. Our scrum was destroyed by Wales in the World Cup. Leinster did a number on Cardiff but that means nothing when it comes to international level.

I'm not disparaging Healy. I've already mentioned earlier that his scrummaging has improved over the last few years. But he isn't the best loosie in Europe.

Podge_irl

almighty1 wrote: »

If even. Got destroyed by Ross on Saturday, Healys scrummaging has come on leaps and bounds in the last few years.

Don't think that was much different to Healy's monstering against England. Both struggled because their TH was having a mare.

Podge_irl

Clegg wrote: »

I'm not disparaging Healy. I've already mentioned earlier that his scrummaging has improved over the last few years. But he isn't the best loosie in Europe.

Think he would be a dead cert for a bench spot if this mystical NH XV had 23 man squads.