REFIT 3 prices

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The Renewable Energy Feed-In-Tariff (‘REFIT’) operates by guaranteeing a minimum floor price for electricity exported to the grid by new renewable generating plants

http://www.dcenr.gov.ie/Press+Releases/2012/Wind+power+is+key+to+Irish+energy+future+and+Announcement+of+REFIT+2.htm

prices set:

REFIT reference prices

REFIT 2

Large Wind - €66.353 MWh
Small wind - €68.681 MWh
Hydro - €83.814 MWh
Landfill Gas - €81.485 MWh

REFIT 3

AD CHP (units less than or equal to 500 kWe) 15c per kWh
AD CHP (units of greater than 500 kWe) 13c per kWh
AD (non CHP) (less than or equal to 500 kWe) 11c per kWh
AD (non CHP) (units of greater than 500 kWe) 10c per kWh

Biomass CHP (units less than or equal to 1500kWe) 14c per kWh
Biomass CHP (units of greater than 1500kWe) 12c per kWh

Biomass Combustion (non-CHP):
For using energy crops 9.5c/kWh
For all other biomass 8.5c/kWh

Where does that leave us with the esb currently charging 14.76c per kWh (plus standing charges, etc), more increases on the way?

And if they are prepared to pay industrial producers would it be fesable for domestic suppliers at that cost, or would we still need a straight offset of units produced to units used to make micro production viable?

quentingargan

When microgenerators were getting a feed in tariff of 19c, (which fell to 9c after the first 3000 units) only a few hundred joined up. The feed in tariff for micro wind in the UK is currently 28p and will fall to 21p later this year. That is for production only. If you export there is an extra 3p, and if you use the power yourself, you also save the purchase price, so electricity generated and used in the house is saving you about 40p at present.

I'm afraid that micro wind needs much larger subsidies if there is to be any uptake, but there are arguments that this would increase electricity prices for others.

However, the concept of subsidising to build market is worthwhile, and UK wind turbine manufacturers are now exporting their engineering to other regions.

Markcheese

quentingargan wrote: »

When microgenerators were getting a feed in tariff of 19c, (which fell to 9c after the first 3000 units) only a few hundred joined up. The feed in tariff for micro wind in the UK is currently 28p and will fall to 21p later this year. That is for production only. If you export there is an extra 3p, and if you use the power yourself, you also save the purchase price, so electricity generated and used in the house is saving you about 40p at present.

I'm afraid that micro wind needs much larger subsidies if there is to be any uptake, but there are arguments that this would increase electricity prices for others.

However, the concept of subsidising to build market is worthwhile, and UK wind turbine manufacturers are now exporting their engineering to other regions.

For what ? The uk turbines aren't effective or "efficent" (in micro generation/feed in) in other regions or uk.
What's the advantage (socially or otherwise) to subidising an individual or company to sell there excess power on to the grid.... If it's cost effective for everyone then great... If not why bother....?

Capt'n Midnight

http://www.sem-o.com/Pages/default.aspx

The Single Electricity Market (SEM) is the wholesale electricity market operating in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. The SEM provides for a competitive, sustainable and reliable wholesale market in electricity, a joint venture between Eirgrid plc and SONI Limited

For most of today the single market price is just over €50 MWh