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whatislife

is it in the human psyche to sub consciously yearn for unhappiness just as much as it is to lust for happiness consciously?

thanks

shanered

I believe its in the human sub concious to wonder about the opposite feeling to what we are experiencing so as to contrast the experience such as to understand it somewhat.
And since happiness and sadness are relative, when we feel happy that is in direct contrast to feeling sad.
To gauge happiness or sadness, is to have a sub concious awareness of the other state therefore creating a link between the two, and as we all crave experience to some degree we, I believe would yearn/lust for these emotions such as to furfill our desired experience of life.
Hope that made some sense!

Its a ramble anyways!

whatislife

shanered wrote: »

I believe its in the human sub concious to wonder about the opposite feeling to what we are experiencing so as to contrast the experience such as to understand it somewhat.
And since happiness and sadness are relative, when we feel happy that is in direct contrast to feeling sad.
To gauge happiness or sadness, is to have a sub concious awareness of the other state therefore creating a link between the two, and as we all crave experience to some degree we, I believe would yearn/lust for these emotions such as to furfill our desired experience of life.
Hope that made some sense!

Its a ramble anyways!

Brilliant, thanks!

Priori

shanered wrote: »

I believe its in the human sub concious to wonder about the opposite feeling to what we are experiencing so as to contrast the experience such as to understand it somewhat.

Interesting point. Understanding "through strife", or the contrast of opposites.

whatislife wrote:

is it in the human psyche to sub consciously yearn for unhappiness just as much as it is to lust for happiness consciously?

You might find some food for thought in Freud's idea of the "death impulse" or "death drive" - i.e. the return to a lower form of existence, or to an inorganic state. This would encompass self-destruction and perhaps those states of mind (such as deep unhappiness) which may lead us there.

roosh

whatislife wrote: »

is it in the human psyche to sub consciously yearn for unhappiness just as much as it is to lust for happiness consciously?

thanks

I think ultimately the human psyche is geared towards realising true happiness, but we can develop ineffective habits through our experience of life. The habits we learn can often serve the purpose of trying to avoid pain, as opposed to realise happiness. That is, something happens in our life that causes us pain and the lesson we learn is to avoid that situation so as to avoid pain; this can manifest in many ways, but ultimately such coping mechanisms can end up being a source of pain themselves.

We learn so much from our parents, as they have from theirs, and the cognitive habits we develop as a result are not always ideally suited to our primary goal. We can often pick up some of their habits, which they themselves have learned from life experiences.

Unless we develop awareness of these subconscious habits, they can be very difficult to break, and can often lead to people finding themselves in the same situations over and over again, wondering, "why this always happens to me?"