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Pianist Required

  • 04-04-2012 12:12pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone know a good piano player who would be free between the dates of 16th-17th-18th of this month? The piece isn't extremely difficult, but is a little tricky, so I'm told. I have it there enclosed. It really doesn't matter how well it's performed, but it does count towards my mark that it is performed. So please, pianists everywhere, unite and single out your physically weakest, and force her/him to learn this piano piece. My thesis will thank you and I'll let you have sex with my girlfriend (I don't have a girlfriend).

    :)

    PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE. It's obviously just the prepared piano bit.

    Attachment:
    http://www.woofiles.com/dl-298031-gCsSnXIa-Duet.doc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    The heck . . The link doesn't work. Will sort one out for laters, but here's the first page anyways. Should provide a glimpse.

    http://www.use.com/showorig.pl?set=2fdd0d856d988f4a957e&p=1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    The file isn't really working got me(nosey), maybe you should try uploading it as a pdf to google docs or rapidshare.
    Looking at the preview, your score needs a bit of work(time sig, phrasing, proper metronome marks
    & perhaps more accurate notation of what's going on in the Extd. Tech. part, as it just looks like one big drone to me),
    but I know some people that might be able to help.
    So I'll ask around and see if I can get a number to PM you.
    Also, have you tried posting this request on the all music staff & students Moodle Page?
    That usually works for me when I'm in a bind.
    BTW I think I'm performing live electronics for a friend in the Tuesday concert!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Well, I should explain. The nature of the phrasing is that the work is aleatoric, thus I didn't really have so much control. But, as the piece progresses it does become less and less aleatoric. Perhaps its best I do check them infact.

    The extended technique part is for another person who stands over the piano making the unusual noises and they're improvised. So, notation doesn't really matter, it just points out which technique should be used.

    The metronome markers are directly from Sibelius, so it's like, q = 100, means, quaver = 100bpm.

    The time sig is 4/4.

    How about this? https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/zc9Kcd

    Really? I'm looking forward to all the performances tbh. Who are you doing the electronics for? Thanks very much for your help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    Oh, it makes much more sense with the full picture, thanks!
    CaoimH_in wrote: »
    The metronome markers are directly from Sibelius, so it's like, q = 100, means, quaver = 100bpm.
    The time sig is 4/4.

    Ah, cool. Yeah I gathered that, but it just helps to make it clearer as some performers will pick you up on it.
    I'm performing in a sound-art piece by Joe Garvey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Cool! I loves sound art. Is it an installment or just a stage performance?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    If I was around, I'd have a bash for you, but i also had a quick look at it.

    It looks grand, but the one thing that immediately threw me off was your rhythmic structure.

    For example, I'd personally find it easier to read bars 1 and 10 if they were written like this:

    199172.png

    Here, it's easier to read the natural beats.

    You might be able to find someone who can read the way you have it (ie someone better than my sorry self!), so it's not the worst crime in the world. Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Right, well, I have to alter a fair bit I now realise. I assume the issues of rhythmic structure are the same as phrasing. Pardon my extreme ignorance but I'm not sure what exactly is best as regards sight reading rhythmic structures. Are there any tips one could give to organise everything so it'd be easy for a performer to pick up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Well, basically it's about grouping the notes into the music's rhythmical structure. The notes need to correspond to the time sig. Here, I realise you don't really have a time signature (which is fine, and something I always like), but just for sight reading purposes let's just say it's 4/4.

    The notation needs to be 'in-line' with the beats of the bar.

    So, for example, in your bar 1 you had this:

    199253.png


    Now, in a 4/4 time piece of music, in one beat, there should be 1 crotchet (or quarter note). This can equate to 2 quavers (eighth notes), or 4 semi-quavers (16th notes) or a quaver and 2 semi-quavers, or a dotted quaver and a semi-quaver etc.........

    You have a quaver and a semi-quaver, which doesn't equate to a full beat. There is a semi-quaver missing, which you have in the crotchet that follows.

    Stay with me, this is complicated, sorry!

    If you look at the 3rd note you wrote (crotchet B)....see how it doesn't exactly line up with the minims (half notes) in the left hand? It makes it VERY difficult to sight read.

    Basically, try to keep your notes grouped in beats, as your second beat in this bar actually starts one quarter of the way through that crotchet, which is just difficult to read. The way I wrote it clearly defines where each beat starts by using ties.

    It may look more complicated, but it's easier to read.

    I hope this helps even a little bit!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Gotcha! I'll sort that out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    If you want, when you edit it, post it up again and myself/Norrdeth/ElPr0n/banquo can/will have a look at it. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    That you can be certain of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    No one knows a pianist free next week? The score should be pretty different to the one I've put up. Half of the material will have been removed (Dr. Ronneau's orders) and it should be a lot easier to read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Back up in college today so I got at the score this afternoon. First half is done, I think. Any mistakes?

    *bad link will update*

    <3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Score complete! I could be getting a pianist in the coming days so things are looking up. I have checked and check this over. I don't think anything is up, but I could be wrong; could someone please check it for me? Anything that would be difficult to read? That needs correcting? I'm pretty tired, so maybe it's obvious!

    (full score)
    https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/vtMacc
    (piano only)
    https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/ztcdach

    Any help will get you "thanks" here and future "thanks" too!

    Best


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Only had a chance for a quick gander, but it looks grand. (froma pianist's point of view).

    There are a couple of needless tied notes I saw, that could be written as a crotchet for example, instead of a quaver tied to a semi quaver tied to a semi quaver (not sure if that''s the exact example, just a quick off the head one.)

    Looks good though, best of luck with it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    In short: What Funky said. But in english instead of Japanese.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    This is good news! I'll keep plugging away. Thanks boyos! :) Can't thank ye enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    CaoimH_in wrote: »
    Cool! I loves sound art. Is it an installment or
    just a stage performance?

    Oh, forgot to reply.
    It's a fixed media audio work, using 4 tracks of the same recording played back
    in 4 different spaces, so all I do is move faders around to control the volume of
    each track, and that's the performance part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Cool, I'll be there tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Ugh, sorry that was a drunken reply after 8 hours in a karaoke bar with all you can drink.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Absorbed into the culture then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Maybe too much..... ¬_¬


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    Where's this on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Bewerunge at 5:15 (apparently) today and another one is on tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    Yep, looking forward to it now.


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