RUSSIAN PLANE THAT CRASHED IN SIBERIA KILLING 31 PEOPLE WAS IMPROPERLY DE-ICED

EIDW

Investigators in Russia say the pilot of a plane which crashed killing at least 31 people was trying to make an emergency landing just after take off in Siberia.

Twelve people were pulled alive from the wreckage with serious burns and other injuries. They were airlifted to hospital by helicopter.

The aircraft was flying from Tyumen to Surgut in Siberia

According to the emergency ministry, eight people were undergoing surgery with four people in intensive care.
The ATR 72, a twin-engine plane with 39 passengers and four crew members, crashed around 20 miles from the western Siberian city of Tyumen at 7.50am local time. It was heading towards Surgut, also in Siberia.
An eyewitness from a nearby village said: "There was smoke coming out of both engines before the aircraft tilted to left a few moments before the crash happened."
According to the website plainspotters.net, the plane had been flying for 20 years.
Footage from the scene shows parts of the aircraft strewn around a snowy field.
Investigators say the cause could be pilot, technical or air traffic controller error.
Vladimir Putin's aide says the Russian president-elect will take personal control of the investigation into the crash as well as personally ensuring support for the victims. The plane belonged to passenger airline UTair which has promised victims' families 2m roubles (around £40,000) in compensation.
It is the latest in a series of incidents that have given Russia one of the worst air safety records in the world.
In September last year, 44 people including the entire Lokomotiv Yaroslavl ice hockey team died after a Yak-42 crashed into a riverbank near the city of Yaroslavl.
June saw another tragedy when a Tu-134 flying from Moscow crashed in Karelia region, killing 47 people on board.
In the wake of these tragedies President Dmitry Medvedev promised unreliable airlines would be shut down and air safety would be improved.

Nate--IRL--

Where does it mention De-icing in your post?

Nate

EIDW

Nate--IRL-- wrote: »

Where does it mention De-icing in your post?

Nate

it flashed up on sky news and bbc news

JupiterKid

Russia seems like a very dangerous country within which to take a domestic flight. If I'm ever back there I think I'll stick with the train.

cml387

I suppose speculation is unfair,but the ATR needs careful handling in icy conditions,e.g the Air Indiana crash.

veetwin

JupiterKid wrote: »

Russia seems like a very dangerous country within which to take a domestic flight. If I'm ever back there I think I'll stick with the train.

http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Russia,+Saint+Petersburg&daddr=Russia,+Primorsky+Krai,+Vladivostok&hl=en&sll=43.068888,133.59375&sspn=127.13712,312.1875&geocode=Fc6wlAMdp53LASntZUrHjDeWRjH_joSrP2fHbQ%3BFcurkgIdlSTdBymF1ElSupyzXzE1fpbd1ARnGA&oq=Vladi&mra=ls&t=m&z=3

Just hope you never have to make the trip from St Petersburg to Vladivostok!

Zonda999

JupiterKid wrote: »

Russia seems like a very dangerous country within which to take a domestic flight. If I'm ever back there I think I'll stick with the train.

I've wondered about the same thing, although you do hear about Russia's fair share of aviation accidents.

Notably, none of the accidents in Russia in the last while have involved their more notable carriers like Aeroflot and Transaero.. Whats more, many of the accidents are Russian aircraft too it would seem. This one is probably getting a bit more press because it was a European built aircraft

mayotom

veetwin wrote: »

http://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Russia,+Saint+Petersburg&daddr=Russia,+Primorsky+Krai,+Vladivostok&hl=en&sll=43.068888,133.59375&sspn=127.13712,312.1875&geocode=Fc6wlAMdp53LASntZUrHjDeWRjH_joSrP2fHbQ%3BFcurkgIdlSTdBymF1ElSupyzXzE1fpbd1ARnGA&oq=Vladi&mra=ls&t=m&z=3

Just hope you never have to make the trip from St Petersburg to Vladivostok!

Flew that once Via Ekaterinburg, 12 hours total, two hours stopover tough day, but 737 all the way(both Irish reg)

Also know a guy working in Mining who has had a few trips to "pavek" in the north east, 3 days travel from Ireland, talk about planes, trains, Automobiles and dog Sleighs

eatmyshorts

cml387 wrote: »

I suppose speculation is unfair,but the ATR needs careful handling in icy conditions,e.g the Air Indiana crash.

Air Indiana?
I think you mean the American Eagle crash which happened in Indiana.
That was caused by flight in severe icing conditions, nothing to do with de-icing on the ground.