Can you buy a specific reg under the new import rules?

Carazy

Just a question regarding importing a car. Can you buy a number which has not being used under the new import band eg 12001 for dublin and 40000 for cork.

On the vrt.ie website it says that you can book a number for the coming year eg 13d1 etc. but it does not specify if this can or cannot be done for imports.

So is there anyone that knows if a reg can be bought for an imported car now or is it a complete No.No?

Also I see that Dublin has reged 32d12003 but not 32d12001 and 32d12002 can anyone shed anylight on this?

carchaeologist

To be honest anything is possible with the muppets that invented the new system...
No one thought it out properly and if you try to enquire about it you get the brush off. Fair enough it works for post 1987 imports but it's just plain idiotic to put 32D120001 on a 1930s car.
They made a total mess of the ZV registrations before it.

I have the fear about the disaster that will be foisted on us when this off the road notification thing comes online.

Carazy

carchaeologist wrote: »

To be honest anything is possible with the muppets that invented the new system...
No one thought it out properly and if you try to enquire about it you get the brush off. Fair enough it works for post 1987 imports but it's just plain idiotic to put 32D120001 on a 1930s car.
They made a total mess of the ZV registrations before it.

I have the fear about the disaster that will be foisted on us when this off the road notification thing comes online.

Completley idiotic for pre 1987 I agree as all imports are easily identified anyway, ZV or 32d***,64d*** etc.
I will have to try and enquire about it but it seems you have already got the 'brush off' from them so my hopes are not all that high!

carchaeologist

Give them a go, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

macplaxton

Carazy, you're missing a zero in the Dublin numbers in your OP

You can book the November before for the following year, but it doesn't appear to work for anything other than the "current" year.

Why anyone would part with a grand for a non-transferable registration mark is beyond me though.

Thinkingaboutit

Whoever devised the current import reg system was really hitting the bath salts.

WDB123

wonder what clown thought that starting the reg off at 120k,you have got to wonder at the the people in these government depts,then again i am not surprised seems as a country, all gov depts are gobxxxxx when they are at work that is and not between 12.30 and 2pm or after 4pm or after 3pm on fridays not sat or sunday

Bitten & Hisses

carchaeologist wrote: »

To be honest anything is possible with the muppets that invented the new system...

Speaking of which and apologies for the hijack, but is there any place online with an idiot's guide to the new system. It was obviously designed by an idiot, but I would like to know a little about it and why someone deemed it necessary.

dahamsta

I think I've asked this before, but don't think I got an answer: Does anyone know who /did/ develop the new system, and ask them their reasoning behind it? I think they'd find it very hard to find a reason bar the obvious, which would be very hard to defend. Was there a consultation, and if not why not? Did the classic car clubs complain, and if what why not? Is there anything classic car buffs/importers can do now?

I've never imported a car, but I think it's only a matter of time before I do. I'd rather not have a frankly retarded number plate when that happens.

Adam

carchaeologist

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

Speaking of which and apologies for the hijack, but is there any place online with an idiot's guide to the new system. It was obviously designed by an idiot, but I would like to know a little about it and why someone deemed it necessary.

It was deemed necessary to highlight any import vehicles of which there are many, which it does quite well in fairness aside from all the different start points in each county, BUT the issue I have is with the older imported stuff which have to carry the same high numbering.

All Kerry imports for all years started @10001.

Bitten & Hisses

carchaeologist wrote: »

It was deemed necessary to highlight any import vehicles of which there are many

Why would this be deemed necessary?

trevorbrady

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

Why would this be deemed necessary?

SIMI, vested interests. Trying to generate a stigma around imported cars to protect domestic sales. Makes no sense for the new stupid registration number regulations to be extended to classic cars as SIMI has no bearing on the classic car market as far as I know...

carchaeologist

trevorbrady wrote: »

SIMI, vested interests. Trying to generate a stigma around imported cars to protect domestic sales. Makes no sense for the new stupid registration number regulations to be extended to classic cars as SIMI has no bearing on the classic car market as far as I know...

Exactly, but it's the idiot that planned this, alongside the other idiot that came up with the 5 digit ZV plates that obviously just hadn't a clue about what he was at.
It's typical of the Irish government, there's guys doing jobs that have no idea of what they are at.
I'm not sure if there's a stigma over imports, well with the ordinary Joe Soap anyway as 99% have no interest in what is in their number plate.

dahamsta

trevorbrady wrote: »

Makes no sense for the new stupid registration number regulations to be extended to classic cars as SIMI has no bearing on the classic car market as far as I know...

You can imagine the meeting though: "Gotta get all dem classic cars off de road, dey're preventin' noo car sales."

carchaeologist

I have no problem with the new regs, in fact it makes things more interesting as its now possible to see at a glance how many imports actually come in here.

The issue is with the classic car fan a who only has the option of (in Dublin) of say 66D120001 or ZV10001, which is fine if you don't care about what's on your reg but if you do want something authentic looking you can't get anything bar ringing your car.

At least before the end of last year the year reg or the ZV(pre5digit) matched the majority of other vehicles either modern or pre 87 about.

And I doubt there's a single poster here that lives in Dublin that would want a plate like 66D120012 on their car!!

Is there?

dahamsta

carchaeologist wrote: »

I have no problem with the new regs, in fact it makes things more interesting as its now possible to see at a glance how many imports actually come in here.

How does that benefit you exactly?

There are better and far more elegant ways of identifying imports without shouting it from the rooftops for the sole benefit of the non-competitive Irish car industry. A simple annotation on the cert, for example.

carchaeologist

dahamsta wrote: »

How does that benefit you exactly?

There are better and far more elegant ways of identifying imports without shouting it from the rooftops for the sole benefit of the non-competitive Irish car industry. A simple annotation on the cert, for example.

I agree with this, but Ireland being Ireland the piggys in charge have to shake the system with their ham fists until its broken.

dahamsta

That's true too, but since it was implemented, I haven't seen any action from the classic car community or industry bar bitching and whining. It really is very Oirish.

hi5

dahamsta wrote: »

That's true too, but since it was implemented, I haven't seen any action from the classic car community or industry bar bitching and whining. It really is very Oirish.

Agreed,we need to organise ourselves,you'll get rode over roughshod in this country, unless you speak up.
I saw something in the editorial in Irish Vintage Scene mag a few months ago along the same lines.
If there was an umbrella organisation that encompassed all clubs and vintage /classic car interests,it would be a start.
There must be thousands of potental individuals out there,and each one has a vote,its all about lobbying.
I'd be interested,anybody else?

trevorbrady

hi5 wrote: »

If there was an umbrella organisation that encompassed all clubs and vintage /classic car interests,it would be a start.

www.ivvcc.ie

quickrack

trevorbrady wrote: »

www.ivvcc.ie

That looks usefull.
But EVERYONE interested in old/interesting/modified cars needs to join.

trevorbrady

quickrack wrote: »

That looks usefull.
But EVERYONE interested in old/interesting/modified cars needs to join.

re IVVCC, as far as I know (which mightn't be very far), owners of modified cars need not apply.

Carazy

trevorbrady wrote: »

re IVVCC, as far as I know (which mightn't be very far), owners of modified cars need not apply.

And any car which is post 1984 also. It is more of an exclusive club in my eyes anyway.