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McIlroy reveals reasons for Chandler split

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭death1234567


    Westwood is so pro the european tour because he's the best on that tour but he knows he'll just be another decent pro on the PGA tour and won't be able to maintain his high World ranking. He's the new colin Montgomery...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Westwood is so pro the european tour because he's the best on that tour but he knows he'll just be another decent pro on the PGA tour and won't be able to maintain his high World ranking. He's the new colin Montgomery...
    What you on about? You get more points in stronger the field so ur theory is majorly flawed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    So, remind me. Why did they have him not goto Sawgrass?. Was he playing somewhere else in the world that week or?.

    He was right though. Chubby's ISM seems like a good ol drinkin boys club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    He didn't go to Sawgrass as he could only get 5 invites last year because he had given up his playing rights and it didn't fit into his schedule.
    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭L.O.F.T




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Listen to 2nd half.

    2130 hrs before he seen Rory after last years Masters. Some manager.


    When Rory was first making his way as a pro, I knew he was bigger than Chubby. He seems a honourable bloke working on handshakes. But, he seems a bit of a mouth and a bit indiscreet .




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=byVEHoQJzHY&feature=endscreen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 brianodub


    To be fair to Chubby, his stable provided three of the four major winners last year. So he's obviously doing something right.
    Not bad for just an ole drinkin boys club!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭death1234567


    heavyballs wrote: »
    What you on about? You get more points in stronger the field so ur theory is majorly flawed
    Its not flawed at all :confused:. Westwood gets his ranking points by winning (or finishing in the top 5) tournaments on the European Tour. If he was in the states he struggle to win any tournament & would finish alot further down the field and as a result his world ranking would fall. Simple. He stays on the european tour to massage his own ego and to be a big fish in a small pond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    That and the fact his family is based in England, he has young kids and probably doesn't want to uproot them. The PGA tour is fantastic and all, but it involves huge commitment to being away from home for long periods and has a lot more travel on a weekly basis than the European tour.

    I think based on the fact that the two players are at very different stages of their lives, it is understandable that different tours suit them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭BigChap1759


    Its not flawed at all :confused:. Westwood gets his ranking points by winning (or finishing in the top 5) tournaments on the European Tour. If he was in the states he struggle to win any tournament & would finish alot further down the field and as a result his world ranking would fall. Simple. He stays on the european tour to massage his own ego and to be a big fish in a small pond.

    Massive sweeping statement award! Lee is so consistent tee to green that he's usually near the top of the leaderboard so I'm not sure your theory holds water.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Draupnir wrote: »
    That and the fact his family is based in England, he has young kids and probably doesn't want to uproot them. The PGA tour is fantastic and all, but it involves huge commitment to being away from home for long periods and has a lot more travel on a weekly basis than the European tour.

    I think based on the fact that the two players are at very different stages of their lives, it is understandable that different tours suit them.

    We have to use the phrase 'European' tour with a pinch of salt. Considering it hosts official events in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. There's no small amount of travel time there either.

    I would guess that Westwood is a supporter of the 'European' tour because it wholly embraces the ideas of Greg Norman in the 90's when he envisaged a Worldwide Tour as opposed to an insular PGA Tour of Houston to Miami to Denver approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    But the events in Asia, South Africa and the middle east tend to be sectioned off into blocks like the Sunshine swing or the end of season stuff in the Middle East. At least that way, Westwood can manage his time away from home carefully.

    If he went full time in America he'd need to move his family or else be away from them for 5 months of the year.

    I understand your point too though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭saintastic


    Its not flawed at all :confused:. Westwood gets his ranking points by winning (or finishing in the top 5) tournaments on the European Tour. If he was in the states he struggle to win any tournament & would finish alot further down the field and as a result his world ranking would fall. Simple. He stays on the european tour to massage his own ego and to be a big fish in a small pond.

    I completely disagree with the above post. Lee gets a lot of world ranking points from the Majors.

    Westwood's last ten majors:

    USPGA 11 8th
    Open 11 MC (wrong side of the draw)
    US Open 11 3rd
    US Masters 11 11th
    USPGA 10 DNP (injured)
    Open 10 2nd
    US Open 10 16th
    US Masters 10 2nd
    USPGA 09 3rd
    Open 09 3rd

    This proves A. that if he was in the States he wouldn't necessarily "finish further down the field and as a result his world ranking would fall" and B. that the European Tour is not the main source of his world ranking points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    Most of the top pros only play 24/25 events every year so if you take the majors and world golf championships as 8 plus the middle east swing and the end of year championship u are up to 12. i think Westwood only then plays the 5 or 6 big money events on the european tour which attract all the top europeans along with 5/6 invites to events in America. Its not like he is playing in Italy for 200000 last week he was playing in America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    brianodub wrote: »
    To be fair to Chubby, his stable provided three of the four major winners last year. So he's obviously doing something right.
    Not bad for just an ole drinkin boys club!

    I agree but probably not the right environment for a budding young superstar all the same. This guy wants to win multiple majors. Darren Clarke was lucky to win his and won't win another. I could see Schwartzel jumping ship too, another brilliant young player. Oosthuizen I can't figure out, he might be another McDowell, who will pretend to be better than possibly they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,566 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Anybody else think McIlroy's new website is a bit shyte?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭Nedser101


    Yeah the site is a bit crinchy alright.but what's more crinchy is his new nickname for himself and his missus .is it mcilniaccy or something?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    fullstop wrote: »
    Anybody else think McIlroy's new website is a bit shyte?
    Some of it is bit meh but I think it's actually decent. Very well designed, now if they could just fix Horizon's!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 jonrambo


    westwood should have won a few majors, no coincidence he cant close any of dem out, he a NAPPY BOY.....maybe rory should close out more tourneys but he 22, westwod wasnt even competing at this level when he was that age, and he will always be the big fish in that pond as long as chubby is runnin the show,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 brianodub


    jonrambo wrote: »
    westwood should have won a few majors, no coincidence he cant close any of dem out, he a NAPPY BOY.....maybe rory should close out more tourneys but he 22, westwod wasnt even competing at this level when he was that age, and he will always be the big fish in that pond as long as chubby is runnin the show,

    If Westwood could putt, he'd have won the Masters at a canter. Nothing to do with Chubby if Lee can't get the ball in the hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 jonrambo


    ya he had 21 putts more than mickelson over the first three days, 21 putts more over 3 days!! how then can he justify giving the interviews he does sayin he putted well......he needs to bite the bullet like rory did and get that stocton dude to help him out. althoug it would be better for us if westy and rory were comin down the stretch tied for the lead in a major with a few to go cos ud just know westy would mess it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭newport2


    jonrambo wrote: »
    ya he had 21 putts more than mickelson over the first three days, 21 putts more over 3 days!! how then can he justify giving the interviews he does sayin he putted well......

    He didn't say he putted well, he said in his interview he didn't putt well and admitted it cost him the tournament

    "The story of the week is you have got to putt well to win The Masters and I haven't."
    "I didn't really make that many putts. The longest was 10 feet on 18. That's not really good enough."


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