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When is a €5 train ticket not worth €5 ?

  • 01-04-2012 03:07PM
    #1
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭


    I needed to get from Dublin city to Bray last Monday.

    I noted that a return ticket by DART from Tara Street was €5.20.

    As the weather was so good that day and I was in no great hurry, I decided to walk for some of the way. I eventually got a DART from Booterstown.

    The price of a return ticket from here was also €5.20. So I bought one assuming that it would get me back into Tara Street as there was no difference in the price to Bray from either station.

    Needless to say, when I tried to exit at Tara Street that evening, the gates wouldn't open and the indicator display said I had exceeded my station.

    I explained my situation to an attendant who opened a gate to let me through when it became obious I wasn't trying to pull a fast one.

    The alternative would have meant me going back out to Booterstown and buying a single ticket into town.

    Seems a bit daft to me. Surely the validity of a ticket should apply to any station within the range of the face value printed on the ticket ?


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  • #2
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,400 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Even though the price is the same, the ticketing system isn't aware of that and needs the correct stations printed on it.

    It'll let you in/out before but not after, even if the price is the same.


  • #3
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    In theory all of this and more will be sorted with the NTA sorts out the fare system for the GDA...........


  • #4
    allandanyways
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭allandanyways


    It's not worth it when a single from Hazelhatch to Sallins is €4.20 for a 3 minute journey.

    Absolutely disgraceful.


  • #5
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    MYOB wrote: »
    Even though the price is the same, the ticketing system isn't aware of that and needs the correct stations printed on it.

    It'll let you in/out before but not after, even if the price is the same.

    I'm more familiar with the Tube in London. Over there, only the station of departure is printed on the ticket. After that it doesn't matter where you get off the train as long as it is within range.

    I assumed it would be the same on the DART. I'm sure the introduction of the Leap card will iron this out in time.


  • #6
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    monument wrote: »
    In theory all of this and more will be sorted with the NTA sorts out the fare system for the GDA...........
    Are they going to do that though?

    The legislation is in place but I never saw it mentioned that they were ever going to actually do something to take the fares out of the operators hands.


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  • #7
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,652 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Strictly what you bought was a Booterstown-Bray ticket, which isn't valid to Tara Street.


  • #8
    ProudDUB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Agreed. A return ticket is for a return to the station that your journey commenced from, not to a station several stops down the line. I don't see what the relevance of price has.

    That being said, it bugs me that under our current ticketing system, you are not able to get a ticket that lets you specify where you want to return to, if it is not the same station that the journey started at. I live in the IFSC and travel to Heuston station quite often. Most of the time, I have stuff to do in town first, so I'll walk in. When I am done, I'll get the Luas at Jervis St to Heuston.

    It drives me nuts that I can not get a tram back to the IFSC on the same ticket. I have to buy a new one. The 2 one way tickets cost more than if I had gotten a return ticket at the Mayor Sq Luas stop, even though I am actually on the Luas for less time than if I got on a Mayor Sq and got off at Heuston. Sigh.....


  • #9
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,652 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    That being said, it bugs me that under our current ticketing system, you are not able to get a ticket that lets you specify where you want to return to, if it is not the same station that the journey started at.
    You can. At Booterstown, he should have asked for a return ticket from Tara Street to Bray. It may have required the cashier to let him in through the turnstiles. Alternatively, he could have bought the ticket at Tara Street and just not boarded although there would be questions asked.
    I live in the IFSC and travel to Heuston station quite often. Most of the time, I have stuff to do in town first, so I'll walk in. When I am done, I'll get the Luas at Jervis St to Heuston.

    It drives me nuts that I can not get a tram back to the IFSC on the same ticket. I have to buy a new one. The 2 one way tickets cost more than if I had gotten a return ticket at the Mayor Sq Luas stop, even though I am actually on the Luas for less time than if I got on a Mayor Sq and got off at Heuston. Sigh.....
    Buy your ticket in the IFSC then and only board at Jervis. Note that you have to finish the first leg of the journey within 90 minutes of buying the ticket.

    But if I have it right, Docklands-Heuston return is €3.50 and Jervis-Heuston-Docklands is also €3.50 (€1.60+€1.90). http://www.luas.ie/fare-calculator.html


  • #10
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    monument wrote: »
    In theory all of this and more will be sorted with the NTA sorts out the fare system for the GDA...........
    Are they going to do that though?

    The legislation is in place but I never saw it mentioned that they were ever going to actually do something to take the fares out of the operators hands.
    Yeah they are. Heard Varadkar mention an integrated fare system recently.


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