Gov considering cycling tax -- articles

monument

A few of the Sunday papers have the story that the Department of Transport is looking at ways of taxing cyclists.

They are looking at both commuters and leisure cyclists, including tolling the Dublin and Wicklow mountains for cyclists -- a day pass kind of thing rather than paying past every toll. Will post details once I get some sleep...

Cookie_Monster

monument wrote: »

A few of the Sunday papers have the story that the Department of Transport is looking at ways of taxing cyclists.

such a VAT?

Jawgap

According to the article it will be a component of the houshold charge - €10 for the first bike, €5 for every bike thereafter with an exemption for 'small' bikes.

CheGuedara

Jawgap wrote: »

According to the article it will be a component of the houshold charge - €10 for the first bike, €5 for every bike thereafter with an exemption for 'small' bikes.

Also exempt are bicycles whose construction has stalled due to the economic downturn and those that have been taken into NAMA and/or local authorities.

DirkVoodoo

Who or how would such a proposal be enforced?

I can see this costing more money to run than it would bring in.

Why do anything to cripple the growth of cycling (Hello Australia!), look at the public health bill, lost work days, road development and maintenance, etc.

Craziness!

mel.b

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alexanderomahon

I heard that MTB's will be charged more due to the width of the tyres, and fact that MTB'ers are generally fatter, causes more damage to cycle ways and many off road tracks.

Must say that sounds reasonable to me and I think they should pay more.

MarkR

Jaysus. Imagine the poor bastards with tricycles. Somebody better be thinking about the children.

Twin-go

It should be based on emissions. Each cyclist measured for their CO2 max.

rsole1

April Fool

alexanderomahon

Twin-go wrote: »

It should be based on emissions. Each cyclist measured for their CO2 max.

Don't be so flippant. This is a serious issue. We have a debt problem and it must be sorted and the tax base needs to be widened. MTB'ers cause more damage so make them pay.

Ted_YNWA

is this applicable to unicycles as well ? Clowns will not be happy

daragh_

In principle I'm behind this measure.

I imagine there will be a sliding scale of charges, based on road usage. Perhaps Strava could be used to establish who is wearing away the roads the most? The more KOMs you have the more you pay.

Also, it's about time there was a harsh and punitive tax on the purchase of recumbents.

Bunnyhopper

I'm fine with this as long as it keeps those pedestrians off the roads. They pay nothing for the roads and yet they're forever wandering over and back across them. They should all be made stay on the footpad or they should have their shoes taken away.

I was out on the bike the other day and I saw a load of them walking across the road in the middle of sparse traffic even though there was a perfectly good pedestrian crossing only a few hundred metres away. Then there was one of those joggers at the pedestrian crossing but even he trotted across the road right through a red pedestrian light. I was only about fifty metres away at the time and I could have been killed :mad::mad:

They all do it all the time everywhere. I've never in my life ever anywhere ever seen any one of them pedestrians not do it. They are all the same everywhere always. They all just wandered out there onto our road on their stupid legs. Do they think they're in the Boston marathon or something??!!?? :mad:

denlaw

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE :mad::mad::mad:










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GarIT

I think they should do it in the form of a cycling licence that is by lay required to cycle on a public road. Then it would allow for people to be banned for dangerous cycling.

denlaw

i think some sort of meter should be put on all bikes , the further you go , the more you pay ...

your's faithfully

phil hogan ..td ..

xoxyx

MarkR wrote: »

Jaysus. Imagine the poor bastards with tricycles. Somebody better be thinking about the children.

Are they charging by the wheel? What about us rollerskaters??? :eek:

macken04

There should be two tiers.

Your first bike is free then every subsequent bike is hit with a tax. There should be a base amount then an increase for every carbon part you have. An extra ceramics tax and electronic tax should be introduced.

Nisio

They were saying on the radio that hi-viz wearers are exempt. Can anyone confirm?

le petit braquet

And people with di2 or EPS should be taxed off the planet (literally)

bcmf

I personally think they should flatten all the hills. I will gladly pay for that.

VanhireBoys

Id like to see some fella trying to stop us on the road.... It would make some interesting chases when the bike is found to be "untaxed"

Good for interval/sprint training in fairness. Big gear - Tailwind - Salthill .. Do I have to say anymore....;)

Jawgap

Don't register and don't pay is what I say!!!

I'm availing of the stabiliser exemption and putting a pair of these on.......

Dermot Illogical

A true patriot would pay.

jameverywhere

Twin-go wrote: »

It should be based on emissions. Each cyclist measured for their CO2 max.

Methane is also a greenhouse gas. We'd also have to fill out questionnaires regarding our diet and pay a "fart tax"

gman2k

Rumours is that it will be inverse weight based - I.E. the lower the weight of the bike, the higher the TAX.
The rational is that lighter components are generally high in CO2 emissions in manufacturing stage, Carbon Fibre and Titanium being the two highest in terms of pollution.
It is only natural that these materials are taxed accordingly.
Also, since they are generally of a higher purchase price, it stands to reason that the owner is more able to pay.
It's a progressive tax, and I'm all for it.

gman2k

Weight weenies who are against the tax should get a life.

marketty

Carbon tax?

andyoc

The tax has been dubbed "Lane Tax", as opposed to "Road Tax"

ashleey

I'm paying it but I'm holding out on the management charges on our holiday home in Portugal.

monument

Nisio wrote: »

They were saying on the radio that hi-viz wearers are exempt. Can anyone confirm?

Yes, it's true.

And if you wear hi-vis and a helmet at the same time it makes you super indestructible -- so, you're allowed to run red lights and squeeze between the kerb and buses/trucks.

bcmf wrote: »

I personally think they should flatten all the hills. I will gladly pay for that.

That's all part of the other plan to make Ireland just like the Netherlands.

ashleey

monument wrote: »

Yes, it's true.

And if you wear hi-vis and a helmet at the same time it makes you super indestructible -- so, you're allowed to run red lights and squeeze between the kerb and buses/trucks.




That's all part of the other plan to make Ireland just like the Netherlands.

What you mean efficient and good at football?

studiorat

No, sexually deviant and drug addicts.

CramCycle

Will we be able to get a statement from the Gardai claiming we have been off the road for the winter months?

Rev

CramCycle wrote: »

Will we be able to get a statement from the Gardai claiming we have been off the road for the winter months?

I heard they will charge more for having a bike but not using it

endacl

Feck's sake people! I know its in the spirit of the day that's in it and all, but what if a government minister stumbles across this thread and gets ideas?!?