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Broadband for gaming

  • 29-03-2012 8:39pm
    #1
    Butterball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭


    I am very clueless when it comes to this so I decided to post here. I am looking for any ideas for best broadband package for gaming. ( hubby loves his x box live). Am based in Carrick-on-Shannon. What is the most basic package I can get to ensure ok play on x box?- I would like to do away with landline if possible.
    I am currently with eircom but contract due up for renewal. Thanks


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  • #2
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    Butterball wrote: »
    I am very clueless when it comes to this so I decided to post here. I am looking for any ideas for best broadband package for gaming. ( hubby loves his x box live). Am based in Carrick-on-Shannon. What is the most basic package I can get to ensure ok play on x box?- I would like to do away with landline if possible.
    I am currently with eircom but contract due up for renewal. Thanks

    http://www.lastmile.ie/ ripplecom
    http://www.ciaracom.ie/
    http://www.fastcom.ie

    try those and see how you get on


  • #3
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Butterball wrote: »
    I am very clueless when it comes to this so I decided to post here. I am looking for any ideas for best broadband package for gaming. ( hubby loves his x box live). Am based in Carrick-on-Shannon. What is the most basic package I can get to ensure ok play on x box?- I would like to do away with landline if possible.
    I am currently with eircom but contract due up for renewal. Thanks

    For decent gaming a landline is usually the thing you need most, if you can't get UPC stick to the landline. Other types of connection (mobile, wimax, satellite) tend to have high latency which will make the game freeze or laggy.


  • #4
    -=al=-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    landline/cable/upc are the best really

    3g/mobile/wimax will be inconsistent and make stuff laggy

    Fixed wireless is teh best option to get away with the landline really, not sure which service is best for there but if the landline has to go fixed wireless is the stuff ya want.. satellite broadband won't cut the cheese for xbox


  • #5
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    GarIT wrote: »
    For decent gaming a landline is usually the thing you need most, if you can't get UPC stick to the landline. Other types of connection (mobile, wimax, satellite) tend to have high latency which will make the game freeze or laggy.

    While that is mostly true a good fixed wireless installation can be better than DSL for latency. But satellite and mobile are crap are really not worth investigating for any sort of gaming...


  • #6
    maw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭maw


    thinking of moving from my DSL to www.carnsorebroadband.com

    Are you saying they will be worse for gaming?


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  • #7
    bealtine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    maw wrote: »
    thinking of moving from my DSL to www.carnsorebroadband.com

    Are you saying they will be worse for gaming?

    They are a fixed wireless provider so therefore should be as good as DSL or perhaps better.


  • #8
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    bealtine wrote: »
    While that is mostly true a good fixed wireless installation can be better than DSL for latency. But satellite and mobile are crap are really not worth investigating for any sort of gaming...

    Can be are the words you need to emphasise there. You could also say that a family car can be faster than a racing car provided that the family car is well tuned and the racing car is in a bad state of disrepair. The potential for a fixed line connection is better than a fixed wireless connection as is the average.


  • #9
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    GarIT wrote: »
    Can be are the words you need to emphasise there. You could also say that a family car can be faster than a racing car provided that the family car is well tuned and the racing car is in a bad state of disrepair. The potential for a fixed line connection is better than a fixed wireless connection as is the average.

    Absolute nonsense. Gaming doesn't need speed, it needs low latency. Decent fireless will have half the latency of any Dsl connection. This is my mams fixed wireless connection at present (6.00 on a friday eve)
    [admin@Beano] > ping www.boards.ie
    HOST SIZE TTL TIME STATUS
    89.234.66.108 56 59 15ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 12ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 32ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 9ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 13ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 9ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 10ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 9ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 13ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 10ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 10ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 10ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 12ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 10ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 11ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 14ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 9ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 9ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 10ms
    89.234.66.108 56 59 11ms
    sent=20 received=20 packet-loss=0% min-rtt=9ms avg-rtt=11ms
    max-rtt=32ms
    and this is my own dsl connection
    [admin@Abe] > ping www.boards.ie
    HOST SIZE TTL TIME STATUS
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 41ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 37ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 51ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 39ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 37ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 42ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    89.234.66.107 56 57 36ms
    sent=20 received=20 packet-loss=0% min-rtt=36ms avg-rtt=37ms max-rtt=51ms


  • #10
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense. Gaming doesn't need speed, it needs low latency. Decent fireless will have half the latency of any Dsl connection. This is my mams fixed wireless connection at present (6.00 on a friday eve)


    and this is my own dsl connection

    That's what I said already, I never mentioned speed. I get between 4 and 8 on Vodafone @ Home, I'm less than 100 meters from the exchange :)


  • #11
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    GarIT wrote: »
    That's what I said already, I never mentioned speed. I get between 4 and 8 on Vodafone @ Home, I'm less than 100 meters from the exchange :)

    4 and 8 what? Prove it. Me thinks you're spouting crap now


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  • #12
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    4 and 8 what? Prove it. Me thinks you're spouting crap now

    milliseconds, I just tested there and got 35:eek: Ill check again tonight.


  • #13
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    GarIT wrote: »
    milliseconds, I just tested there and got 35:eek: Ill check again tonight.

    Please do, I'd love to see those 4-8ms to boards.ie on Dsl
    cos I know it's not possible

    I tell you what, I'll let you win if you can do better than double my mams 11ms average off peak. Show me a sub 22ms ping to boards on your Dsl connection.


  • #14
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Please do, I'd love to see those 4-8ms to boards.ie on Dsl
    cos I know it's not possible

    I've never bothered to ping a site, I always just use pingtest.net, i'll have to find the cables later too, I'm on wifi now.


  • #15
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    GarIT wrote: »
    I've never bothered to ping a site, I always just use pingtest.net, i'll have to find the cables later too, I'm on wifi now.

    :eek: Sorry but maybe you shouldn't be giving broadband advise


  • #16
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    :eek: Sorry but maybe you shouldn't be giving broadband advise

    Why?


  • #17
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    GarIT wrote: »
    Why?

    Because anyone who knows anything about networking does their pings from command line and takes the results from pingtest.net and speedtest.net with a pinch of salt. It's not a definitive result.


  • #18
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    Because anyone who knows anything about networking does their pings from command line and takes the results from pingtest.net and speedtest.net with a pinch of salt. It's not a definitive result.

    Neither is a result from a site, the site could be having any sort of problem. I just prefer a service set up purposefully for this service and that has a GUI over cmd line tests.


  • #19
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    GarIT wrote: »
    Neither is a result from a site, the site could be having any sort of problem. I just prefer a service set up purposefully for this service and that has a GUI over cmd line tests.

    OK, we can disregard all your posts now


  • #20
    maw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭maw


    bealtine wrote: »
    They are a fixed wireless provider so therefore should be as good as DSL or perhaps better.


    Thanks for that. My ping is 47 at the mo and 2.4 mb down 0.3 mb up with Vodafone at home and less than 40 metres from the exchange

    I'd say the fixed wireless will be better than that


  • #21
    Kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    I tell you what, I'll let you win if you can do better than double my mams 11ms average off peak. Show me a sub 22ms ping to boards on your Dsl connection.

    Not all DSL is poor. It can be excellent for gaming. My old 3mb connection got between 12ms and 14ms when pinging boards. It just depends on your line and location and how close you are to the exchange.

    The other lad was stupid suggesting using speedtest.net as a reliable idea of ping. However it is possible to have an excellent gaming experience on DSL.


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