Who are the famous five?

moycullen14

Examiner this morning says that they're are 5 in the frame for McGahans job in Munster. Any ideas or guesses about who they may be? EOS must be one.

leftleg

O Sullivan, Bradley, Wayne Smith, Axel Foley plus 1 more

irishbucsfan

Penney, Smith and Foley are three. I wouldn't be surprised if Mallet was on it either. Eddie O'Sullivan is not on the list AFAIK

Fireball07

leftleg wrote: »

O Sullivan, Bradley, Wayne Smith, Axel Foley plus 1 more

I thought Wayne Smith said he didn't want to be a head coach.

And did I imagine it or did Bradley sign a new contract?


Isn't there the New Zealand guy who's coaching some U-20 team?? And maybe (hopefully) Nick Mallett.

leftleg

http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2012/0329/315431-osullivan-to-advise-olympic-handballers/

"The province has settled on a shortlist of five candidates. O'Sullivan, current forwards coach Anthony Foley, New Zealander Wayne Smith and Michael Bradley, formerly Connacht coach but now in charge of Edinburgh, are among those who have been linked with the role."

This whole topic is hearsay, but that's the only reason I mentioned steady eddie;

irishbucsfan

leftleg wrote: »

O Sullivan, Bradley, Wayne Smith, Axel Foley plus 1 more

Neither O'Sullivan or Bradley are on the shortlist I don't think. I'm pretty sure Axel is the only Irishman on it.

irishbucsfan

Fireball07 wrote: »

I thought Wayne Smith said he didn't want to be a head coach.

Smith said he wasn't interested in the England job because it was more of a "Director of Performance" position. He said he'd prefer to have a coaching position. Head Coach of Munster would probably suit him a lot more.

And that U20 coach is Rod Penney and he is definitely on the shortlist.

MickySticks

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Neither O'Sullivan or Bradley are on the shortlist I don't think. I'm pretty sure Axel is the only Irishman on it.

Nope two Irishmen. O' Sullivan and Foley.

Cpt_Blackbeard

From what I've heard/read the list is:

Axel Foley
Wayne Smith
Nick Mallet
Pat Lam
Rob Penney

Personally I'd like to see Smith get the job, as he is the only back's coach on the list. Holland is on contract for another year afaik and we'll need a high profile back's/attack coach to nurture the current (and future) crops of talent. I don't see the need to get in a forward's coach as head, as we already have Axel to do the job.

I think it might be too soon for Axel to step up, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he proved me wrong.

JustinDee

moycullen14 wrote: »

Examiner this morning says that they're are 5 in the frame for McGahans job in Munster. Any ideas or guesses about who they may be? EOS must be one.

All the main papers carry this piece which happens to be done by the same non-syndicated journalist.

Fireball07

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Smith said he wasn't interested in the England job because it was more of a "Director of Performance" position. He said he'd prefer to have a coaching position. Head Coach of Munster would probably suit him a lot more.

And that U20 coach is Rod Penney and he is definitely on the shortlist.

Well I don't know anything about Penney but I think Wayne Smith could be an excellent appointment.

As long as Axel stays on a forwards coach, I think he's made a massive impact. Think it's a bit soon for him to be head coach though I'd like to see it in the future.

leftleg

JustinDee wrote: »

All the main papers carry this piece which happens to be done by the same non-syndicated journalist.

That's how the media roll these days; one comes out with it and the others all fall in line

onlyrocknroll

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Penney, Smith and Foley are three. I wouldn't be surprised if Mallet was on it either. Eddie O'Sullivan is not on the list AFAIK

leftleg wrote: »

O Sullivan, Bradley, Wayne Smith, Axel Foley plus 1 more

Can I ask are these names just conjecture or do you guys know something?

(I'm trying and failing to word that in a way that doesn't sound bitchy, so to be clear I'm not challenging you, just looking for clarification.)

leftleg

I posted a link from rte.ie which is conjecture so that's where my list came from, dunno about the others here; they seem more certain.

irishbucsfan

onlyrocknroll wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Penney, Smith and Foley are three. I wouldn't be surprised if Mallet was on it either. Eddie O'Sullivan is not on the list AFAIK

leftleg wrote: »

O Sullivan, Bradley, Wayne Smith, Axel Foley plus 1 more

Can I ask are these names just conjecture or do you guys know something?

(I'm trying and failing to word that in a way that doesn't sound bitchy, so to be clear I'm not challenging you, just looking for clarification.)

I'm going purely based on what I've been told by a friend of mine in the MRSC. Could be complete rubbish.

.ak

I've a friend who lives with a dude that knew a guy who worked with a fella from the branch. My friend said the shortlist is: Eddie, Alex, Nick, Wayne and Michael...

That, just to confirm, means that Eddie Robinson, Alex Ferguson, Nick Saban, Wayne Bennett and Michael Schumacher are in Munster RFC's shortlist for their next head coach.

Watch this space, more on this to follow...

justsomebloke

I've heard that there has been communication with Andy Robinson.

johnnysmack

.ak wrote: »

That, just to confirm, means that Eddie Robinson, Alex Ferguson, Nick Saban, Wayne Bennett and Michael Schumacher are in Munster RFC's shortlist for their next head coach.

Watch this space, more on this to follow...

Be fantastic if Michael got the job

leftleg

johnnysmack wrote: »

Be fantastic if Michael got the job

Michael Bradley or Michael Cheika??

Neil3030

justsomebloke wrote: »

I've heard that there has been communication with Andy Robinson.

Yeah.

"Dear Andy,

**** off and stop calling us.

Munster"

durkadurka

A-Rob has just been confirmed as staying with Scotland.

Cos he's been doing a bang up job or something.

Fireball07

justsomebloke wrote: »

I've heard that there has been communication with Andy Robinson.

That's not even funny :eek:


Imagine the horror

Blackheath

Julian, Dick and Ann, George and Timmy the dog

Fireball07

Blackheath wrote: »

Julian, Dick and Ann, George and Timmy the dog

I'm disappointed it took this long

phog

If Wayne Smith gets a roll with England he will take it and he'll be out of the equation. Twitterland was saying that Smith said Munster would be the only club he'd come to the NH to be head coach, I kind of hope that happens.

durkadurka

Whoever it is is going to have to phase out POC DOC ROG and wally in the next two or three years. Ouch.

irishbucsfan

durkadurka wrote: »

Whoever it is is going to have to phase out POC DOC ROG and wally in the next two or three years. Ouch.

That's possibly another reason not to give Axel the job yet given his relationship with them.

It's a tough job for a tough coach. Everything I've read about Penney seems really positive, maybe he's the guy.

phog

durkadurka wrote: »

Whoever it is is going to have to phase out POC DOC ROG and wally in the next two or three years. Ouch.

The only one that there isn't a replacement for is ROG, we have Ryan, Nagle, Foley and Holland there as it is for the 2nd row, POM is the heir in waiting for Wally and we've signed Dougall, who some are raving about as a natual 7. I'm just not sure about Keatley and Deasy and Hanrahan seems to be groomed for centre rather than outhalf.

Blackheath

phog wrote: »

The only one that there isn't a replacement for is ROG, we have Ryan, Nagle, Foley and Holland there as it is for the 2nd row, POM is the heir in waiting for Wally and we've signed Dougall, who some are raving about as a natual 7. I'm just not sure about Keatley and Deasy and Hanrahan seems to be groomed for centre rather than outhalf.

Dougal could be a decent signing in the long term, he has also captained Rotherham titans a few times this season

Brendan97

Brian McLaughlin could be up for it

phog

Brendan97 wrote: »

Brian McLaughlin could be up for it

What makes you think that?

jm08

phog wrote: »

If Wayne Smith gets a roll with England he will take it and he'll be out of the equation. Twitterland was saying that Smith said Munster would be the only club he'd come to the NH to be head coach, I kind of hope that happens.

The administrative nightmare that is Munster mustnt have been explained to him yet with two centres, two stadiums, the limerick/cork infighting etc. etc.

He said he didn't want the head job in england because he prefers to just coach and stay away from all the pr & admin stuff that has to be done as head coach.

Elsewhere i'm reading that Lancaster wants to keep the 6Ns team together and that saracens are bracing themselves for the rfu to coming looking for Farrell.

Names I've heard in the pot are 5 from:

Axel, Eddie, Les Kiss, Mallet, Pam, Smith, Kirwan, Penney, Williams.

Id say the 5 of those are:
Axel, Eddie, Kiss, Mallet, Penney and my preference would be a Kiss/Axel team.

leftleg

jm08 wrote: »

Names I've heard in the pot are 5 from:

Axel, Eddie, Les Kiss, Mallet, Pam, Smith, Kirwan, Penney, Williams.

Id say the 5 of those are:
Axel, Eddie, Kiss, Mallet, Penney and my preference would be a Kiss/Axel team.

Do you have a link for this or is this just some sort of joke that you heard in the chipper last night??

jm08

leftleg wrote: »

Do you have a link for this or is this just some sort of joke that you heard in the chipper last night??

I don't get why Kiss would be some sort of joke, but Wayne Smith wouldnt?

And no, I don't have any link for this, like I don't have any link for all of the others because everyone of them is pure speculation.

Brendan97

phog wrote: »

What makes you think that?

Well, ulster have a new coach next year
So that would mean brian mclaughlin having alot of free time

irishbucsfan

Brendan97 wrote: »

Well, ulster have a new coach next year
So that would mean brian mclaughlin having alot of free time

Brian McLoughlin is contracted to Ulster next year. He'll be working with Longwell in the academy. He's also not nearly up to the standard of other candidates for the job.

phog

Brendan97 wrote: »

Well, ulster have a new coach next year
So that would mean brian mclaughlin having alot of free time

So why not name every other coach that has free time as well?

Also, as I'm sure you know B McL has taken over a new roll with Ulster rugby so in fact he is not free to take on the roll of Head coach in Munster.

.ak

.. and the very reason he was moved to that Academy position was because that's as far as he'll ever take Ulster. Not going into all the politics on how the situation was handled, but in short - fair play, you did a job, but time for someone better.

phog

.ak wrote: »

.. and the very reason he was moved to that Academy position was because that's as far as he'll ever take Ulster. Not going into all the politics on how the situation was handled, but in short - fair play, you did a job, but time for someone better.

If that is/was the case why would anyone even think he'd make one of the top 5 names for the Munster job?

durkadurka

When we find out should we have a slap up tea with lashings of ginger beer at Aunt Fanny's?

phog

durkadurka wrote: »

When we find out should we have a slap up tea with lashings of ginger beer at Aunt Fanny's?

Why not have it now?

leftleg

jm08 wrote: »

I don't get why Kiss would be some sort of joke, but Wayne Smith wouldnt?

And no, I don't have any link for this, like I don't have any link for all of the others because everyone of them is pure speculation.

Kiss is definitely not one of the famous five

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0402/1224314232351.html

Samich

Axel Foley?

irishbucsfan

5 seems to be Foley, Penney, Lam, Smith, Mallett.

Good selection as well

CIARAN_BOYLE

irishbucsfan wrote: »

5 seems to be Foley, Penney, Lam, Smith, Mallett.

Good selection as well

I've heard a lot of talk about Holley in the last few days I'm thinking, Foley Penney, Smith, Mallet and Holley as the short list

Big Nelly

Brendan97 wrote: »

Well, ulster have a new coach next year
So that would mean brian mclaughlin having alot of free time

Brian McLaughlin has moved back into the Raven squad to develop young players, as mentioned before he is one of the few people in sport who has a great contract and has himself set up for life

CIARAN_BOYLE

Big Nelly wrote: »

Brian McLaughlin has moved back into the Raven squad to develop young players, as mentioned before he is one of the few people in sport who has a great contract and has himself set up for life

Yep he is the only coach with a permanent job in any UK, Ireland or French team.

I'm not sure what he is going to be doing next year, either Ravens Coach or Director of the Academy

irishbucsfan

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Big Nelly wrote: »

Brian McLaughlin has moved back into the Raven squad to develop young players, as mentioned before he is one of the few people in sport who has a great contract and has himself set up for life

Yep he is the only coach with a permanent job in any UK, Ireland or French team.

I'm not sure what he is going to be doing next year, either Ravens Coach or Director of the Academy

Gary Longwell will be academy director no? Pretty sure he's staying.

CIARAN_BOYLE

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Gary Longwell will be academy director no? Pretty sure he's staying.

He is running the Ravens at the moment as well but all rumours I hear about Brian McLaughlin suggest he is taking over the Ravens or the Academy