"Restricted breed" dog list - funny question

Karlitto

Ok, so,

I have made it quite clear I find this list pathetic, and do not agree with it what so ever,

But, this may be a retarded statement/question, but take a look.

So, I can see that there are penalties for different offences for dogs, such as dog fouling, no identification etc. usually a 30€ on the spot fine,

Erm, but, I can see no where in the "control of dogs act" stating a penalty of breeching the muzzling or leash law for a resticted breed, can you?

Just somthing I thought I would point out.

I know you are supposed to by law have a restricted breed on a "short strong leash" and "muzzeled", but, supposing you don't, whats the penalty? *trolololololol*

time lord

If its not a fixed penalty/ on the spot fine like not being muzzled then non compliance has to be dealt with by a court summons.

are you serious

The fines .....

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0032/print.html#sec27

I think one major factor to look at is dog wardens not knowing their breeds as well as mixing up the laws.

That dog should have a muzzle and be on a short lead.

Why ?

An Akita is a restricted breed.

Its a husky

As i said it should be wearing a muzzle .

:rolleyes:

Karlitto

garkane wrote: »

The fines .....

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0032/print.html#sec27

Control of dogs act is not the Dogs regulation act (or whatever its called)

andreac

Yeah Dre, thats very true, ive heard of people being stopped with Boxers being told to muzzle them...:rolleyes:

Karlitto

Deleted User wrote: »

I think one major factor to look at is dog wardens not knowing their breeds as well as mixing up the laws.

That dog should have a muzzle and be on a short lead.

Why ?

Akita an Akita is a restricted breed.

Its a husky

As i said it should be wearing a muzzle .

:rolleyes:

O.o, huh?

Karlitto

andreac wrote: »

Yeah Dre, thats very true, ive heard of people being stopped with Boxers being told to muzzle them...:rolleyes:

Ah, now I get it.

Yea, I think we are all in agreement anyway, "restricted dogs list is a heap of turd"

FYI, I love boxers (I still, for the life of me cannot see why anyone would see them as aggresive....)

Actually, a friend sent me a link to a youtube video with the 10 most "dangerous" dogs, ****ing sickens me.... check it out, you won't be happy...(yes, boxers are on nearly every one of them)

Karlitto

Karlitto wrote: »

Yea, I think we are all in agreement anyway, "restricted dogs list is a heap of turd"

It is and it isnt. The unfortunate thing is the human factor. The dogs on this list can do alot of damage if trained to be aggressive. Over in the UK Staffys are used as weapons, or status symbles. This has spread to here. The tougher the dog, the tougher you are.

So this is the law until they can put the time money and effort into a new law and start restricting certain owners instead.

Whispered

I would love to see a good behaviour programme, you have your RB dog, you go through training and tests and gain some sort of a tag for your dog which exempts it from the muzzles and short leash part of the laws.

Is there anything like that out there?

Whispered

Whispered wrote: »

I would love to see a good behaviour programme, you have your RB dog, you go through training and tests and gain some sort of a tag for your dog which exempts it from the muzzles and short leash part of the laws.

Is there anything like that out there?

Yes there is , its called canine good citizen award. I know somebody whos staffy has one.

Discodog

Karlitto wrote: »

Erm, but, I can see no where in the "control of dogs act" stating a penalty of breeching the muzzling or leash law for a resticted breed, can you?

Just somthing I thought I would point out.

garkane wrote: »

The fines .....

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0032/print.html#sec27

Karlitto wrote: »

Control of dogs act is not the Dogs regulation act (or whatever its called)

You quoted the Control of dogs act in your OP & the fines are for a breech of the same act.

Discodog

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes there is , its called canine good citizen award. I know somebody whos staffy has one.

But I don't think that exempts you from the CoD Act

ISDW

Whispered wrote: »

I would love to see a good behaviour programme, you have your RB dog, you go through training and tests and gain some sort of a tag for your dog which exempts it from the muzzles and short leash part of the laws.

Is there anything like that out there?

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes there is , its called canine good citizen award. I know somebody whos staffy has one.

But having that award doesn't mean that your dog is exempt from the RB laws.

In Germany they brought in restrictive laws for certain breeds, my brother was living there at the time, their Rottie was assessed and passed, so he didn't have to wear a muzzle etc. But those exemptions were part of the law, nothing like that written into ours.

are you serious

Karlitto wrote: »

Control of dogs act is not the Dogs regulation act (or whatever its called)

Karlitto, the original link I posted is a direct link to (Offences and penalties)Section 27 of the Control of Dogs Act 1986 which covers Section 19 and 31 of the same act. Section 19 and 31 of this act gives the minister for the environment a right to exercise his powers to make certain regulations and he chose to do so by creating the Restricted Breeds List and here is a link to that also.. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1991/en/si/0123.html

All of that leads to your question being answered...

Discodog

garkane wrote: »

gives the minister for the environment a right to exercise his powers to make certain regulations and he chose to do so

Exactly so the Minister has the authority to pretty much do as he pleases. The only significant change is that the Department of Agriculture is now responsible for animal welfare & presumably will take over dog control as well.

Karlitto

Whispered, good point,

I will look into it

Garkane,

Thanks, didn't put two and two together it seem, I just saw the "list of offenses and penalties", didn't see anything about the RB