Don't Get Sick

CptSternn

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/overcrowding-leads-to-cancellation-of-operations-at-limerick-hospital-545332.html

Overcrowding leads to cancellation of operations at Limerick hospital

The HSE has been forced to cancel a number of elective operations as well as surgical and medical day procedures at the Mid Western Regional Hospital in Limerick today, due to overcrowding in the emergency department.

At one point yesterday there were 36 people lying on trolleys awaiting admission.

The HSE is appealing to people not to attend the hospital's emergency department, unless absolutely necessary.

That has prompted the Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation to call on the HSE and the Health Minister James O'Reilly to put a plan in place immediately to deal with the overcrowding.

Isn't everyone happy the government shut down most all of the services at the only hospital we had in Clare and we are now all forced to use Limerick's 'centre of excellence'?

Remember, the current shower of elected TDs in Clare VOTED TO DO THIS.

golden8

The HSE was sick long before the current government came in.


There was overcrowding problem when the other crowd where in.

Johnboy1951

The HSE is appealing to people not to attend the hospital's emergency department, unless absolutely necessary.

That bit made me think ........ how bad, and in whose opinion, does one need to be before it is 'absolutely necessary'?

Maybe people should not attend at all ..... that would help take the pressure off their (lack of) services ..... and reduce the population somewhat so the demand would lessen too ...... yeah! There's a plan!

Balagan

And Ennis is overcrowded this week also. Think of it - 22 acutely ill patients in one ward and one nurse to take care of them. Third world conditions. This hospital, what's left of it with A & E gone from 8pm to 8 a.m, , is clearly not being run properly.

Chronic overcrowding at Ennis and Limerick
29 March, 2012 - 08:27 Health

Demands for major incident plan with chronic mid west hospital overcrowding
Nursing staff across the Mid West are calling on the HSE to implement it's major incident plan to deal with what they're describing as the worst ever conditions experienced in local hospitals.
The INMO claim 'gross overcrowding' has evident at Ennis General this week, and that on Tuesday evening one ward had 22 acutely ill patients and only 1 nurse on duty to deliver care...
http://clare.fm/news/chronic-overcrowding-ennis-and-limerick

and has the winter vomiting bug to add to the misery

WINTER VOMITING BUG OUTBREAK AT ENNIS GENERAL
28 March, 2012 - 16:16 Health
Staff at Ennis General are under increased pressure this afternoon due to overcrowding, coupled with an outbreak of the Winter Vomitting Bug.
The HSE is urging as many people as possible to stay away from Clare's County Hospital and instead attend their GP...
http://clare.fm/news/winter-vomiting-bug-outbreak-ennis-general

Akrasia

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

That bit made me think ........ how bad, and in whose opinion, does one need to be before it is 'absolutely necessary'?

Maybe people should not attend at all ..... that would help take the pressure off their (lack of) services ..... and reduce the population somewhat so the demand would lessen too ...... yeah! There's a plan!

Yeah, there are ads on the radio telling people to go to the hospital at the first sign of a heart attack or a stroke and not to 'die of embarrassment' by taking the chance that it's not serious, and then we have same organisation, the HSE, telling people not to go to the emergency department unless 'absolutely necessary'

what a world we live in

dr.fuzzenstein

Damn, had planned to have a big accident where I break every bone in my body, will have to re-schedule that.

CptSternn

golden8 wrote: »

The HSE was sick long before the current government came in.


There was overcrowding problem when the other crowd where in.

No one here will disagree with you. FF created the issue when they decided to shut down our hospital and many others around the country and have us all go to these new 'centres of excellence'. Well Limerick is this supposed 'centre of excellence' which they said would solve all of our problems and look where we are?

It should be noted however that the current crowd of FG/LAB sat on the Ennis hospital committee and also did not raise a finger to stop FF in their destruction of our medical services here in Clare.

Now in office I don't see them doing anything different either. In fact, the current FG/LAB members who are TDs here in Clare aren't doing ANYTHING at ALL that I can see, other than imposing new taxes, asking for more austerity, kissing the arse of the EUcrats, and passing draconian legislation which is going to destroy one of the only working industries in our country, the technology sector.

FG/LAB are just as bad if not worse than FF/PD/GREENS.

Also, not too happy with SF either these days, they are engaging in some dodgy behaviour as well and have strayed well far from their original ideals these days.

It's just too bad we have no alternative. Voting in Clare is like choosing which kneecap you want to be shot in.

dr.fuzzenstein

About the hospital closures.
It was said that the spread of A&E departments was based on "best international practice"
Yes, but in other countries, hospitals have helicopters, so you can be looked after within 20 minutes.
That would be regarded as the absolute max you should have to wait, not like an hour and a half on a good day in some parts of Clare.
So the government spaced out the hospitals based on an industrialised country with 21st century transport infrastructre with the aid of helicopters.
And then transplanted that onto a rural area with potholed boreens and no helicopter.
They did this knowing full well that it will cost lives, all so they could save a grubby few shillings.
Now, call me crazy, but taking an action knowing it will cost lives could be considered manslaughter or even murder.
Mary Harney, Micheal Martin, James Reilly, all guilty, they should be arrested and charged.

CptSternn

There have already been reported deaths because of this in Clare. The TDs in Clare already have blood on their hands, quite literally.

Gregor Samsa

Akrasia wrote: »

Yeah, there are ads on the radio telling people to go to the hospital at the first sign of a heart attack or a stroke and not to 'die of embarrassment' by taking the chance that it's not serious, and then we have same organisation, the HSE, telling people not to go to the emergency department unless 'absolutely necessary'.

what a world we live in

I really don't see the problem with the two messages. A stroke or a heart attack would strike me as situations where it's "absolutely necessary" to go to A&E. But you get people going to A&E for all kinds of non-emergency (and sometimes downright silly*) reasons. That just wastes the time and resources for people who actually need the service. If some people in society are underusing the service, and others are overusing it - both with potentially fatal consequences - then both messages need to be communicated to people.

*

yeah, I know that article's from the UK. But you hardly think that kind of stupidity doesn't happen here too, do you?

Bu the way, this isn't defending the shambolic state of Health Care in the country, and the particularly shambolic state of Emergency care in Clare and surrounding areas.