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Completed the game but not really

  • 27-03-2012 5:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,549 ✭✭✭✭


    I've been playing Dead Space 2 lately and got to the final boss but kept dying. So after about the 1000th death(maybe a slight exaggeration, but felt like it after 5 or 6 hours) I decided just to give up. Mainly because it stopped being an enjoyable game because of this.
    But I'm just telling myself that since I got to the last boss and tried repeatedly, that I finished the game. :)

    I've done this twice before: Timesplitters Future Perfect and Prince of Persia The Warrior Within.

    So my question is, has anyone else played a game up to the last boss before giving up because of getting fed up? And have you plans to or did you go back and finsih?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    No. The boss needs to be defeated.

    Had that trouble with GTA III. The final mission was tough enough. I took a break for a week and then cleared it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Sonic 2. I used not be able to beat the last guy without cheating. To my childhood mind, this was baffling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    You didn't defeat the boss, so you didn't complete the game.

    Quitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭penev10


    The DS2 boss is very annoying.

    I mangaed to beat it but gave up on MGS4 when they eschewed a tight control system for a faux-Tekken, slyly QTE-laden final boss. :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭EDDIE WATERS


    He wasnt hard to beat.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,395 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I'm too OCD to let a game beat me. Have to see the ending. There's plenty of games I did beat that I really should have given up on like MGS4, Legend of Dragoon etc, not because they were hard but because I wasn't enjoying them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,549 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yeah that's just it. I don't quit just because it's hard. I just stop enjoying the game. In DS2, I went in to the final boss with underpowered weapons and no spare health.
    In Timesplitters, the last checkpoint saved the game when I had half health, so I quickly died.
    Prince of Persia was another where it just stopped being enjoyable.

    Of course, maybe I'm just crap! :) I don't like leaving games unfinished, but I would rather move on to another game I'll actually enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    No. The boss needs to be defeated.

    Had that trouble with GTA III. The final mission was tough enough. I took a break for a week and then cleared it.

    The only game I use cheats on, but that's the mission at the bottom of the dam or something where you rescue the girl ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    After about 20 tries on the 2nd boss fight for Deus Ex: HR, I decided **** it. My character was a pacifist, so why should I have to use weapons I've no skills in to kill a character? Nah. So I used a trainer to skip the boss fights (or rather make myself invincible and "complete" them). I then went on and played the rest of Deus Ex: HR quite happily and finished the game. Do I feel even the slightest bit bad? Nope. Did I complete the game? Far as I'm concerned I did, even though strictly I didn't. Couldn't give a f*ck.

    But in games where boss fights aren't completely retarded and outside the scope of your normal gameplay, then you'd have to complete and beat them fairly to be said to have completed the game, aye.

    I'm still stuck on the final boss fight of Space Marine, for example - not going to cheat to beat that since it's what you've been at all along. Thanks for reminding me. Must finish that tonight...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    Tales of Vesperia. I liked Tales of Symphonia on the GC so I thought I'd get it. It wasn't the worst but I wasn't that into it. I just can't play crazy Japanese stuff so much anymore. I got some secret weapons or something that ended up unlocking a final more difficult form of the last boss. I was and am not at a level to beat this boss. I haven't looked at the game in about 2 years. Don't plan on it.

    If I'm into a game then I'll clear it. I don't usually run into problems. Unless someone is watching me play in which case I can manage to not be able to leave an empty room.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭sarumite


    I played infamous all the way through on hard. Came to final boss and tried to beat him a few times and eventually gave up, dropped the game to medium and beat him that way. I plan on going back and beating him on hard, its just I don't get that much gaming time at the moment and would rather enjoy the time i do get than getting frustrated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Trevor451


    No. The boss needs to be defeated.

    Had that trouble with GTA III. The final mission was tough enough. I took a break for a week and then cleared it.

    As a kid, I never got passed the mission where you have to blow up all of the coffee stands :o :mad:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,706 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    The first game I did it with to my regret was Homeworld and I so wanted to finish because it was such a beautiful game
    The second was the Boss fight at the end of Far Cry but no matter what tactics I tried to defeat the big bollix I just couldn't get past him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    Sonic 2. I used not be able to beat the last guy without cheating. To my childhood mind, this was baffling.

    The first game I ever finished,

    Isaac Frost comes to mind OP, what a wanker to beat in Fight Night Champion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭gubbie


    I always really liked games but I was (am) an awful gamer. When Super Metroid first came out, I could not for the life of me get past this guy

    draygon.jpg?w=497&h=374

    STOP STEALING MY POWER.
    I always quit then. I came back recently and finished it.

    I also never finished Mega Man X because the final guy was hard

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    I always feel like I finished Mega Man though because I had all (well most) of the add ons. I felt as powerful as I could get so when I failed to defeat the boss, I just went meh, and stopped.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    SeantheMan wrote: »
    The only game I use cheats on, but that's the mission at the bottom of the dam or something where you rescue the girl ?

    Yeah it is. You only have six minutes to do it as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭deathrider


    That's a bit like this time that I was chatting up a chick, and she turned me down. I still reckon I scored :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,468 ✭✭✭Lex_Diamonds


    I feel like this for every major enemy in Dark Souls... Haven't touched it in months, but I do want to go back and try to win, because I know it *is* possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I'm still stuck on the final boss fight of Space Marine, for example - not going to cheat to beat that since it's what you've been at all along. Thanks for reminding me. Must finish that tonight...

    Nearly ripped my hair out over that one. There's an achievement for finishing the game on the hardest difficulty. Started playing with that as my goal, no problem at all actually - except for that final level. It suddenly ramps up from difficult yet manageable the entire way through, to such an insane difficulty....ended up playing just that level on normal, couldn't finish it on hard. Ridiculous. I was so incredibly annoyed over it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Nearly ripped my hair out over that one. There's an achievement for finishing the game on the hardest difficulty. Started playing with that as my goal, no problem at all actually - except for that final level. It suddenly ramps up from difficult yet manageable the entire way through, to such an insane difficulty....ended up playing just that level on normal, couldn't finish it on hard. Ridiculous. I was so incredibly annoyed over it!

    So yeah. I didn't finish it last night, despite about ten attempts. What makes it worse is you can't skip the fecking cutscene before it... so you've to go through it again and again...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    i thought this was going to be about games with multiple endings (MGS for example, i never realised it was possible to loose at the torture)

    i hate that, cause then i have to play the game again or i dont get the real experience.

    Part of the reason ive never been too big on RPGs is that the story is often too wide to finish it just once.

    at this stage in life though, i dont often have the time to finish games at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,726 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Gave up on the lsat boss in SOTC.

    ****ing jumping from the hand to shoulder or whatever - drove me nuts.

    Watched the ending on Youtube.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,395 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    gubbie wrote: »
    I always feel like I finished Mega Man though because I had all (well most) of the add ons. I felt as powerful as I could get so when I failed to defeat the boss, I just went meh, and stopped.

    He's beatable, but still an absolute prick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,549 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    noodler wrote: »
    Watched the ending on Youtube.
    As I did for DS2. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    I definitely remember giving up on some boss in one of the Prince of Persia games on PC; think it might have been the Vizier in Two Thrones?

    There have also been a few GTA missions I couldn't do; in Vice City, there was a side mission which involves flying a toy helicopter into an unfinished building and dropping mini-bombs I think; just couldn't do it using the PC controls, guessed it would be slightly easier to control the helicopter with a gamepad. In GTA III, I remember some time-sensitive phone mission that I just couldn't complete, must have tried 20 times!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭gazzamc


    if i get stuck on a boss i usually leave it alone for a day or two then try again.. and most of the time i beat it then.. i haven't finished DS2 yet but im near the end (been too busy with other games).. cant wait for the rage quits lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,816 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Cerberus.gif

    Also that time I beat Vergil after 20 tries... and the game froze during the cutscene.
    Rebooted, beat him again, same thing.
    Turns out my DMC3 disc had a nasty scratch I hadn't noticed until then :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Aw hell no, I cannot sleep if I get right to the end and keep getting beaten. When I try to sleep I just keep thinking of different ways to try beating it, often the answer comes to me in my dreams lol. But in some cases I've gone back to earlier save point when I still healthy or had better weapons and took my time getting to the end or skipped over unnecessary stuff to get to the end in the best possible shape to win the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭penev10


    folan wrote: »
    Part of the reason ive never been too big on RPGs is that the story is often too wide to finish it just once.

    At least with RPGs you never have the "couldn't beat the boss" problem as all you have to do is grind a few levels, upgrade your weapons, buy more potions etc.

    I love the "choose your own difficulty" aspect of RPGs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,549 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    azezil wrote: »
    Aw hell no, I cannot sleep if I get right to the end and keep getting beaten. When I try to sleep I just keep thinking of different ways to try beating it, often the answer comes to me in my dreams lol. But in some cases I've gone back to earlier save point when I still healthy or had better weapons and took my time getting to the end or skipped over unnecessary stuff to get to the end in the best possible shape to win the game.

    Yeah, I would be thinking of it as well and what to do, then I try it and die quicker. :)

    And yeah, I would've gone back to a previous save but in DS2
    You basically have to run a gauntlet of bad guys in narrow corridors which cost me a lot of ammo and health

    Maybe some day I'll go back and laugh at how easy it is upon completing it first go, as has happened with other games.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,395 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
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    That was some baptism of fire. I remember thinking he'd be easy during the boss rush at the end since I'd levelled up but he was still the hardest boss out of all of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Neo Zeed. the final boss in Revenge of Shinobi on the Megadrive. What a bastard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    Not quite I dont think. But pretty similarly I guessed the appropriate difficulty level incorrectly for quake 4 and only completed the hardest boss by saving every 20 seconds or something silly like that.

    edit: actually I did do exactly that in Final Fantasy 7. I realised that I needed more health potions to defeat the final boss, but had either copied over saved games where they were available or wasn't bothered going back to a save that much earlier.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 52,395 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Neo Zeed. the final boss in Revenge of Shinobi on the Megadrive. What a bastard.

    Never beat him either :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,549 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Well 2 games I never had a problem defeating the boss in: Ghosts 'n' Goblins and Ghouls 'n' Ghosts. Mainly bcause I didn't get anywhere near the final boss. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Gandalph


    Had a couple but these were a good while ago;

    Final Mission in Half Life 1 re-release on ps2 on coop split screen, were some big thing was flying around in the sky dropping super mutants.

    Think it was max payne 1 were I couldnt beat some helicopter or something at the end

    Ultimate weapons in FF7


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Neo Zeed. the final boss in Revenge of Shinobi on the Megadrive. What a bastard.

    Ha brilliant! I took ages to beat him. That stupid maze with the doors at the end only to be whipped about the place by that abomination. Once I beat him the first time it wasn't so hard again.. but ya it took some doing. I wouldn't have an ounce of patience for it now though. He'd kick my ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Can't think of any games off hand, but i know i stopped playing some games because they were either utter crap (Bomberman Act:Zero jumps to mind!) or too hard for me to enjoy (Dark Souls).

    If a game is too hard to enjoy, i usually stop playing. I like playing games to get enjoyment. Risen is testing me at the moment, but i think it's my strategy thats letting me down, ie: enemies are hard until a certain level.

    I wouldn't consider i've completed the games though. You've only completed a game if you have personally beaten the boss/end (cheating can be ok in some cases - i would love a shot at Dark Souls with unlimited health, seems like it might have a good story and interesting characters, just too hard).


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    i would love a shot at Dark Souls with unlimited health

    Heathen!!!!! :pac:
    seems like it might have a good story and interesting characters, just too hard.

    You have to approach Dark Souls wanting a challenge and to experience a rich, atmospheric world (story and characters are close to non-existent). It's only very rarely unfair (that cursed gate near the start, the last boss with certain builds) and really the rewards are huge.

    There's been a few games I've abandoned just before the end. Longest running one is The Lion King on the Megadrive. Just couldn't figure out how to beat Scar as a wee lad in the pre-internet days... having to play the entire game to get there again was a more draining prerequisite everytime.

    Although it's amongst my favourite games ever (C) I never played the 'true' final boss in Persona 4. The previous ending was more than apt for me, and the weird conditions to unlock the 'true' final dungeon were a rare misjudgement in an otherwise splendid game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,562 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Never beat him either :(

    never made it! That fecking maze was impossible, at least it was in pre-internet times...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Heathen!!!!! You have to approach Dark Souls wanting a challenge and to experience a rich, atmospheric world (story and characters are close to non-existent). It's only very rarely unfair (that cursed gate near the start, the last boss with certain builds) and really the rewards are huge.

    Ah, if there's no story or characters then i won't even bother attempting in the future. And i'm all for a challenge, but if i'm not enjoying it i won't continue. It's like those scrolling shooters with the screen full of bullets, that's a crazy challenge and something i would never enjoy...

    I will also add to the thread that i rarely play games through a second tiome if there's alternative endings. I've intentions of going through the mass Effect series with all renegade choices at some stage though... :pac:


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