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Planning development contribution charges

  • 27-03-2012 11:00am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭


    hi folks,

    has anyone an info on development contribution charges/scheme (DCC)???

    starting the building process in kerry and i have a bill for €6000 before a sod is turned.:eek::eek::eek:

    any advice on reducing this???:confused:

    i have no problem making a contribution but €6000 seems huge for a 2800 sq ft house.:rolleyes::mad:

    seems like this "new" charges/scheme came in march 2011.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,549 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Unless you can show that your water is from a private source then there are no other reductions that Im aware of.

    Its a wee bit out of date but have a look at this thread which you may even want to update yourself.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    A 2,800 sq ft house sounds huge to me! :pac:

    You are probably getting off lightly compared with development contributions in other local authorities (especially this side of the country).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Fracking Cylon


    I think I heard that even if you drill your own well, you have to pay for the fact that the water main is passing your site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭archtech


    6K FOR 2,800sq.foot house is good. As a guide, 8.4K for a 2,230sq.foot house in South Tipp's with a septic tank/treatment unit or circa 12.5K where connecting to public sewage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    As others above have said the only way to possibly reduce the levy is to reapply for a smaller house as levies are normally based on sq. m and use of amenities like water, sewer etc. In some they even charge you for proximity to the Luas. You got off pretty lightly.

    They may agree to installments.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,549 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    It would be great if any of you could post updates here. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Bicycle


    We paid just over €3,200 for an extension that was roughly 670 square feet to Limerick City Council last year.

    We're attached to City water and sewerage, none of which was cut off or amended during our reconstruction.

    I've seen a rebuild near me who have been charged €42,500 or thereabouts for 2,500 square feet approximately.

    €6,000 seems dandy under these circumstances!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭JD6910


    the killer of the €6000 is you get nothing in return so to speak.
    approx €3000 for water and i still have to pay another €1500 for the actual water connection itself.

    approx €3000 for roads - again i see nothing in return for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,549 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    JD6910 wrote: »
    the killer of the €6000 is you get nothing in return so to speak.
    approx €3000 for water and i still have to pay another €1500 for the actual water connection itself.

    approx €3000 for roads - again i see nothing in return for this.
    Unfortunately you are preaching to the converted here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    I'm sure Wicklow Co Co only charge levies on extensions over 40 sq m. So you would only have paid for the area over 40.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭fclauson


    JD6910 wrote: »
    ....starting the building process in kerry and i have a bill for €6000 before a sod is turned.:eek::eek::eek:

    ....

    In wexford you can spread you payments by paying a standing order each month

    and to be contriversial - when property taxes are finally fully implemented these payments will disappear. Rather than front loading all of the ammenity charge in one go - it will get paid annuallly (like in most of the rest of europe)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭DAT64


    JD6910 wrote: »
    hi folks,

    has anyone an info on development contribution charges/scheme (DCC)???

    starting the building process in kerry and i have a bill for €6000 before a sod is turned.:eek::eek::eek:

    any advice on reducing this???:confused:

    i have no problem making a contribution but €6000 seems huge for a 2800 sq ft house.:rolleyes::mad:

    seems like this "new" charges/scheme came in march 2011.

    E8k 2500 sq ft County Cork. E4k for water + E4k for sweet fcuk all!
    Tried every councillor in Cork - no hope! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    fclauson wrote: »
    when property taxes are finally fully implemented these payments will disappear. Rather than front loading all of the ammenity charge in one go - it will get paid annuallly (like in most of the rest of europe)

    Not if Sweden is anything to go by Francis!

    We were fortunate in that the levies were already paid for our site before we bought it. At today's rates the levy would be about 100,000SEK or €11,250.

    In addition to this we have paid the council approx. €1,000 for our planning application and €1,600 for drawings (there was a 17mm discrepancy in one measurement between the two different versions they had on file so they sent out someone from the mapping department to re-survey the site and produce a new drawing) and for someone else to come out and stake out where the house could be built. I'm sure there will be some more before we have finished.

    The previous owner of the site paid property tax of approx. €1,500 for the undeveloped site last year.

    With a new built house we get a 5 year holiday on property tax, I don't know what we will pay in the future as it will be based on a new tax valuation for the house but will certainly be in excess of the €1,500 a year.

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Augusta11


    We recently started a new build, we had to pay just over 28,000 euro development levies for our house which is 2,700 square foot. We're in the Fingal area. It is a massive rip off but there is no way around it!

    Its 143 euro per square metre. We got this reduced to 119 euro per square metre because of a biocycle. This is normal for this area. On top of this we had to pay 7,610 euro deposit for the fact we used a biocycle. This should be refunded in a year or two when we have it serviced for the first time.

    Only decent thing about it is that we are 'allowed' to pay the 28 grand in installments over a 2 year period.

    I would only love to have to pay 6,000 euro but I know where your coming from as it came to a massive shock to us when we first heard about these crazy frees a couple of years ago!


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Augusta11 wrote: »
    We recently started a new build, we had to pay just under 28,000 euro development levies for our house which is 2,500 square foot.

    That's more like it! Shocking. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 0utandAbout


    Augusta11 wrote: »
    We recently started a new build, we had to pay just over 28,000 euro development levies for our house which is 2,700 square foot. We're in the Fingal area. It is a massive rip off but there is no way around it!

    Its 143 euro per square metre. We got this reduced to 119 euro per square metre because of a biocycle. This is normal for this area. On top of this we had to pay 7,610 euro deposit for the fact we used a biocycle. This should be refunded in a year or two when we have it serviced for the first time.

    Only decent thing about it is that we are 'allowed' to pay the 28 grand in installments over a 2 year period.

    I would only love to have to pay 6,000 euro but I know where your coming from as it came to a massive shock to us when we first heard about these crazy frees a couple of years ago!


    Hi Augusta11
    We're just starting to look into the option of building on a site in Fingal. The contribution is shocking isn't it?
    I'm very impressed you managed to get it reduced to €119/sq mt... That's a great saving....what are the requirements to get this reduction? Would be good to be aware of it at this early stage so we can build this into our house design if possible.
    Good to hear they're letting you pay it in installments too....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Augusta11


    Hi Augusta11
    We're just starting to look into the option of building on a site in Fingal. The contribution is shocking isn't it?
    I'm very impressed you managed to get it reduced to €119/sq mt... That's a great saving....what are the requirements to get this reduction? Would be good to be aware of it at this early stage so we can build this into our house design if possible.
    Good to hear they're letting you pay it in installments too....


    Hi OutandAbout,

    It sure is shocking, still hurts having to pay it even though it's over 2 years since we found out about it. It's a standard reduction from 143 to 119 if your putting in a biocycle / septic tank. It wasn't a case of having to negotiate or anything. If you go to the Planning section on the Fingal website it gives a breakdown of the levy fees.
    We rang them recently about the possibility of a refund if these extornite levies were reduced in the near future ( we were told there's a possibility of them been reduced next January ) but the lady in Planning explained that there was no way to get a reduction once you have commenced the build.

    They are flexible about paying in installments which is something I suppose.

    Best of luck with your build.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 0utandAbout


    Augusta11 wrote: »
    Hi OutandAbout,

    It sure is shocking, still hurts having to pay it even though it's over 2 years since we found out about it. It's a standard reduction from 143 to 119 if your putting in a biocycle / septic tank. It wasn't a case of having to negotiate or anything. If you go to the Planning section on the Fingal website it gives a breakdown of the levy fees.
    We rang them recently about the possibility of a refund if these extornite levies were reduced in the near future ( we were told there's a possibility of them been reduced next January ) but the lady in Planning explained that there was no way to get a reduction once you have commenced the build.

    They are flexible about paying in installments which is something I suppose.

    Best of luck with your build.

    Thanks Augusta11, I'll check out the Fingal plan.
    Best of luck for your build too :-)


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