Gun dog question

Stevegeraghty

Hi folks,
I have a quick question about gun dogs, I was thinking about taking my uncles 7 year old Brittany spanial, he has never been shot over but he gets in and out of everything when he is being walked. There in no chance of him retrieving as he has no interest.
I'm looking for him to raise a few birds for me next season(even if I gotta pick em up myself:mad:)

So what I'm asking is can you teach an old dog new tricks:D

EPointer=Birdss

You'd have as much luck with putting a collar on the uncle & bringing him

snipe02

it prob depends on the dog cant expect em to do something he was never taught but as epointer said not likely but if ya want your head wrecked go for it you would pick up youngish dog with most of the training already done cheap enough especially over the summer if your not expecting much you wont be too disapointed but if ya think this is something you want to be doing for a few years to come buy a well bred pup and start from scratch nothing good comes easy

Spunk84

the only thing to do is try it you wont know until you put a shot over him. no harm no foul

Birdnuts

I was gonna stick up a new thread on this but deceided to stick it here. The old girl is gettin a bit long in the tooth so i'll be looking for a replacement spaniel when she's retired in the next year or 2. Thing is a friend of the Wife's has a young Field Spaniel bitch which she is finding rather a handfull to control, dicipline etc. She offered me her a while back but I was too busy with work at the time to check the dog out. My question is - does anyone here have experince of this breed and could I train this bitch to do some basic work in the field. I'd like to get her before next season if I deceide to go with her.

I don't know much about this breed only that it was a popular working spaniel in Victorian times but nearly died out when Springers stole the show after WW1.


PS: She's also quiet agressive with strangers but I assume that can be knocked out of her with firm handling - or should I just forget the whole idea

yours,

confused;)

TriggerPL

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

Hi folks,
I have a quick question about gun dogs, I was thinking about taking my uncles 7 year old Brittany spanial, he has never been shot over but he gets in and out of everything when he is being walked. There in no chance of him retrieving as he has no interest.
I'm looking for him to raise a few birds for me next season(even if I gotta pick em up myself:mad:)

So what I'm asking is can you teach an old dog new tricks:D

not being smart but i wont be supprised if you come back on here and tell us you got so mad with the dog that you shot it .

your setting an impossible challenge for your self . not to say it cant be done but i wouldn try it , oh god can just imagine it now !

if your not a drinker you will be by the time your done

Spunk84

TriggerPL wrote: »

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

Hi folks,
I have a quick question about gun dogs, I was thinking about taking my uncles 7 year old Brittany spanial, he has never been shot over but he gets in and out of everything when he is being walked. There in no chance of him retrieving as he has no interest.
I'm looking for him to raise a few birds for me next season(even if I gotta pick em up myself:mad:)

So what I'm asking is can you teach an old dog new tricks:D

not being smart but i wont be supprised if you come back on here and tell us you got so mad with the dog that you shot it .

your setting an impossible challenge for your self . not to say it cant be done but i wouldn try it , oh god can just imagine it now !

if your not a drinker you will be by the time your done

Now that's Abit OTT . Laugh if he came back and the ol mutt started to hunt lol

Glensman

I took an English Pointer out that I re-homed at the age of 9.
He hunted well enough and with some work would have done ok. Unfortunately I din't have the time but I had him out half a dozen times and shot a good few woodcock over him...

Stevegeraghty

Thanks for the advise guys, I suppose the first thing I should do is throw a shot over him! Any advise there? I have a hand full of 26g hush power shots that are used in a local range,will I just fire off one while he is going through the gorse?

I don't want much outa this dog, just to scare a few pheasant in to the air

You know what they say,if your not expecting much,you won't be disappointed!!!:p

deerhunter1

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

Thanks for the advise guys, I suppose the first thing I should do is throw a shot over him! Any advise there? I have a hand full of 26g hush power shots that are used in a local range,will I just fire off one while he is going through the gorse?

I don't want much outa this dog, just to scare a few pheasant in to the air

You know what they say,if your not expecting much,you won't be disappointed!!!:p

Many years ago my shooting buddy used to have gordon setters, he used to breed them, one pup lost an eye when only a few weeks old so he gave him to his brother-in-law in town as a pet. A few years later about 7yrs his two bitchs were ready to drop pups again, it was at the start of the season, so he had no dog, well he went in and brought out the old one eyed city bred dog, never seen a field or scent, but by jasus did he hunt and set birds on the first day, pure wild, you needed a race horse to keep up to him but my point is, it was in him

TriggerPL

Glensman wrote: »

I took an English Pointer out that I re-homed at the age of 9.
He hunted well enough and with some work would have done ok. Unfortunately I din't have the time but I had him out half a dozen times and shot a good few woodcock over him...

deerhunter1 wrote: »

Many years ago my shooting buddy used to have gordon setters, he used to breed them, one pup lost an eye when only a few weeks old so he gave him to his brother-in-law in town as a pet. A few years later about 7yrs his two bitchs were ready to drop pups again, it was at the start of the season, so he had no dog, well he went in and brought out the old one eyed city bred dog, never seen a field or scent, but by jasus did he hunt and set birds on the first day, pure wild, you needed a race horse to keep up to him but my point is, it was in him

yes but your talking about pointer and setters and it there nature to point , not a spaniel where they will hunt cover but a seven years of age your flogging a dead horse .

TriggerPL

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

Thanks for the advise guys, I suppose the first thing I should do is throw a shot over him! Any advise there? I have a hand full of 26g hush power shots that are used in a local range,will I just fire off one while he is going through the gorse?

I don't want much outa this dog, just to scare a few pheasant in to the air

You know what they say,if your not expecting much,you won't be disappointed!!!:p

get starting pistol , or take the pellets and wad and gun powder out of the cartriges and just fire the igniter . get a friend to fire the shot while your 100 yards away with the dog , if theres no reacting, move in 20 yards and fire again . and so on but keep the dog on a lead and give her a petting after each shot , to reasure her .

if that goes well bring her down the feild and with starting pistol do same again while she out hunting and messing about . if she dont run for the car then you have a hope . then move up to full shot . do this over a week dont do it all in one evening .

deerhunter1

TriggerPL wrote: »

yes but your talking about pointer and setters and it there nature to point , not a spaniel where they will hunt cover but a seven years of age your flogging a dead horse .

True I suppose

Stevegeraghty

TriggerPL wrote: »

yes but your talking about pointer and setters and it there nature to point , not a spaniel where they will hunt cover but a seven years of age your flogging a dead horse .

Is a Brittany spanial not a pointing dog

TriggerPL

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

Is a Brittany spanial not a pointing dog

just looked it up and your right , guess ya do learn something every day . i persumed "spaniel" that it flushed game like most spaniel , sorry my mistake . Never seen one hunting so who was to know.

you might have a gud chance of doing a bit , the gun shot still applies .

you can try e pointers video on pointing to try and bring on her pointing ability . it pretty simple to do .

mallards

I have a couple of Brittanys and they are a one man dog and very head strong if you haven't trained them from pups. This dog will probably hunt great as they have a superb nose, but I would nearly put money on that it will range pretty far out on its own and flush game before you get the chance to shoot if it isn't a strong pointer. But like you say, if you don't expect to much! Most likely it will make you want to buy a pup and train and hunt a proper one! :-)

Mallards

EPointer=Birdss

Doh!!

charlie10

said id post here rather than opening new thread,anyway was looking at my springers pedigree , whos sire and dam seem to have similar pedigree .sire is from glynvilla lines ,skipper of ardford,windmillwood to name a few and dam is from wintonwildfowl ,glynvilla,rytex. now this springer is hammering cover and finding birds really well, i love this dog he is the bizz. my question is has anyone on here have or had a springer with these lines .just curious what ye have to say about these lines

TriggerPL

charlie10 wrote: »

said id post here rather than opening new thread,anyway was looking at my springers pedigree , whos sire and dam seem to have similar pedigree .sire is from glynvilla lines ,skipper of ardford,windmillwood to name a few and dam is from wintonwildfowl ,glynvilla,rytex. now this springer is hammering cover and finding birds really well, i love this dog he is the bizz. my question is has anyone on here have or had a springer with these lines .just curious what ye have to say about these lines

Line breeding is common enough what glynvilla dog. Is in it and rytex

charlie10

glynvilla gaffer, glynvilla griffin glynvilla osprey,malverdale minstril of gglynvilla.
kennie robb of rytex, rytex rod, rytex is further back

TriggerPL

charlie10 wrote: »

glynvilla gaffer, glynvilla griffin glynvilla osprey,malverdale minstril of gglynvilla.
kennie robb of rytex, rytex rod, rytex is further back

Kennin rob of rytex , you will find in the back round of most well bread spaniels . Going back to badgerscourt Susan . You will find him in monalue lines too . susan is mother to ftch badgercourt Druid .

This is just off top of my head , Druid is ment to be the all time hard hitting spaniel. And is in the backround of phillips girl

k rob of rytex is in the backround of milshadow aster , and hattonswood broc . both int ftch and championship winners .

charlie10

well im looking to get a pup off him so im on the hunt for a well bread bitch,he is a big springer for his age.he has a big druids line the previous owner had it highlighted back along his pedigree,.i must post a pic of it for all ye springer lovers

TriggerPL

charlie10 wrote: »

well im looking to get a pup off him so im on the hunt for a well bread bitch,he is a big springer for his age.he has a big druids line the previous owner had it highlighted back along his pedigree,.i must post a pic of it for all ye springer lovers

Sounds likes the Lad that breed him knew what he was at . Charlie what your looking for is what were all looking for . We all seam to have good dogs and not a bitch to be seen. I'm waiting on a lads bitch to come in season , so there might be a pup there il keep in touch .

Look forward to the pic

highduck

charlie10 wrote: »

said id post here rather than opening new thread,anyway was looking at my springers pedigree , whos sire and dam seem to have similar pedigree .sire is from glynvilla lines ,skipper of ardford,windmillwood to name a few and dam is from wintonwildfowl ,glynvilla,rytex. now this springer is hammering cover and finding birds really well, i love this dog he is the bizz. my question is has anyone on here have or had a springer with these lines .just curious what ye have to say about these lines

Sounds like a cracker. Any pics?

Stonehall9

Hi lads, on here a while but don't write only look!! I have an excellent rough shooting chocolate Labrador dog, who a few lads were looking to use as a stud dog, I'm just wondering if any of you have heard of his father " Ballinagam Bruce" I'm told he was a ftw in various places in 2009 but I have no contact for the man who I bought the pup from, I know the sire was in co Offaly somewhere, any info would be great lads . Thanks

TriggerPL

Stonehall9 wrote: »

Hi lads, on here a while but don't write only look!! I have an excellent rough shooting chocolate Labrador dog, who a few lads were looking to use as a stud dog, I'm just wondering if any of you have heard of his father " Ballinagam Bruce" I'm told he was a ftw in various places in 2009 but I have no contact for the man who I bought the pup from, I know the sire was in co Offaly somewhere, any info would be great lads . Thanks

Anymore info , the name done ring a bell odd the top of my head , are you sure it was Feild trails winner . Alot of labs win working tests . If ya could find out more it might help ,

Cheers

Stonehall9

I was told that the dog won a swim across the Shannon race!! but I've googled it and nothing comes up so I thaught the man was pullin my leg, but the dog has turned out to be top dog so I'm kinda sorry now I didn't pay more attention to him at the time. But it could have been a workin trial too lad.

garyc007

the britany can be very headstrong and not always point.iv worked with one before, with great breeding, but sometimes hed listen to me and not his owner and other times he wont listen full stop. i think if more time was spent with him though hed be a great dog, but they need that time more than any spaniel or pointer to work them properly

highduck

charlie10 wrote: »

glynvilla gaffer, glynvilla griffin glynvilla osprey,malverdale minstril of gglynvilla.
kennie robb of rytex, rytex rod, rytex is further back

Tell "skipper "that i was asking for him...............great to see that he is working out. His litter sister is for sale at the minute if you know anyone interested..........big powerful bitch at least as big as your dog.

PS. Apologies Charlie-phone number that you have for me was a work phone and gone as i was made redundant .

Regards,

HD.