German father wants daughter institutionalised because she is transgender

Shakti

BERLIN taz:
The transsexual Alex Kaminsky (name changed) can now legally be institutionalized against her will. The Berlin Kammergericht (chamber court) has ruled so on Thursday. The mother of the eleven year old had sued against the decision of the youth office and lost. Her lawyer declared he will continue and appeal to the Verfassungsgericht (constitutional court).
The child, who felt as a girl her whole life and who lives as a girl, can now be forcibly institutionalized in the Berlin Charité. Youth office was able to make that decision because the parents, who live separated, are of different opinions about the medical treatment of the child and thus had transmitted the health care custody to the youth office. There, a nurse was of the opinion, Alex should be treated in the Charité institutionally and then be sent to a foster family.
The nurse found, that the mother had 'induced' the childs transsexuality, and therefore Alex had to be removed from her sphere of influence. In the Charité it is to bring near to Alex her “biological” gender/sex, and to “prohibit gender atypical behavior”, chief physician Klaus Beier explains the therapy. Which the Hamburgian sexual scientist Hertha Richter-Appelt states is an “antiquated point of view.” A forced institutionalization deems unwise to her., If the mother induces the transsexuality, it could be determined ambulant.
No expert report necessary
Mother and daughter asked to be psychiatrically evaluated. But the Kammergericht declines this expert report. An expert report were not necessary, the families lawyer cites from the enactment. The explanation of the nurse is comprehensible, the desired stationary diagnostic within her discretionary authority. On the other hand, it were to accuse the mother of intending to introduce the child in the teaching hospitals of Hamburg and Frankfurt at the Main, the only specialists for transsexuality in children and youths in Germany.
The Kaminskies lawyer calls the enactment “startling”: “The view that transsexuality can be induced over years without any resistance is nowhere represented in the expert literature. That is an invention of the nurse.” Said nurse has only had a single, hour long, conversation with the child, whose opinions she had ignored.
Lawyer and family now want to go to the Bundesverfassungsgericht (federal constitutional court.) It can decide quickly in custody matters, the lawyer states. In Karlsruhe (seat of the federal constitutional court) they usually take a childs rights serious.
International signature campaign
Support for Alex comes from human rights activists. On monday at 3pm, the “Activist alliance Alex” will demonstrate in front of the Berlin senatorial department for youth. Their slogan: “Stop Alex forced institutionalisation at once.” “This is not an isolated story,” the appeal states. “Institutions like the youth office and the Charité use force on humans through enforcement and psychological pressure! Each gender and each gender identity is a right, not a disease.”
There is also a signature campaign brought on its way. The british transsexual activist Katrina Swales started it on Change.org . Adressing Berlins mayor Klaus Wowereit, it says: “This young girl gets taught that her feelings are wrong. She gets pushed into self denial more and more. Something that has already cost the lives of so many transsexuals.” Already 9000 people have signed.
And Alex? She wanted to endure the crisis with help of a therapist. But the youth

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L.Jenkins

It seems like an insult to the childs own intelligence and feelings to be forcibly institutionalised. I'm pretty disgusted that a medical professional, a nurse at that, could potentially have this child put away because of how she feels.

wonderfulname

And that's my eyes opened, there's wrong in that on so many levels I don't know where to begin. That poor child.

Shakti

wonderfulname wrote: »

And that's my eyes opened, there's wrong in that on so many levels I don't know where to begin. That poor child.

quite,

this part I found the most disturbing,

The nurse found, that the mother had 'induced' the childs transsexuality, and therefore Alex had to be removed from her sphere of influence. In the Charité it is to bring near to Alex her “biological” gender/sex, and to “prohibit gender atypical behavior”, chief physician Klaus Beier explains the therapy.

As far as I can make out not having any German is that Dr. Beier primarily works with sex offenders and whose views on Gender are regarded by his peers as backward, out of date and potentially damaging.

Solair

I didn't realise that Germany was this backward.
It sounds like a story from the 1950s/60s.

wonderfulname

Shakti wrote: »

As far as I can make out not having any German is that Dr. Beier primarily works with sex offenders and whose views on Gender are regarded by his peers as backward, out of date and potentially damaging.

Well they appear to be the same as Rekers so until this I would have assumed they were disproven to such a degree as to not be recognised by any western state bodies, what gets me is that the state would actually force a child into his care, it gives it an air of legitimacy that's just disgusting.

Shakti

Reparative therapy

trigger warning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ7VigOWm_M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtUes86A378

Shakti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHOvP6tMhEg

stephen_n

Words fail me for how wrong that is!

L.Jenkins

If that was (which I'll admit was dispicable), then this greatly annoy alot of our trans folk including myself. http://narth.com/docs/transexpl.html

Chuchoter

Christ, can you imagine ripping a little kid away from their parents and shoving them all by themselves in a mental hospital. She must be terrified, those places are scary enough when you're older

L.Jenkins

I've had a number of appointments in a psychiatric institution and her father should be ashamed of himself.

stephen_n

ItsThatManAgain wrote: »

If that was (which I'll admit was dispicable), then this greatly annoy alot of our trans folk including myself. http://narth.com/docs/transexpl.html

When was that written could see a date on it!

L.Jenkins

I have no idea but their perpensity for bullshít is outstanding.

stephen_n

ItsThatManAgain wrote: »

I have no idea but their perpensity for bullshít is outstanding.

He seemed to be doing ok until he got to his findings post surgery then he did that typical psychoanalytical thing of adding 1 + 1 and interpreting as 11.

L.Jenkins

Maybe I read it wrong, but I felt the point being made is that Transsexuality is Psychological.

stephen_n

ItsThatManAgain wrote: »

Maybe I read it wrong, but I felt the point being made is that Transsexuality is Psychological.

Oh he did in the last three paragraphs, his view of transexuality in the first half seemed at worst benign then he drops that cock and bull of, "well of course we knew surgery wouldn't work" Sure according to his hypothesis half of America and a good deal of the population of Ireland must have "serious psychological problems" given the rates of plastic surgery. I just wonder was it written in the 70's before the DSM declassified transexuality as a pathology.

Shakti

dp

Shakti

stephen_n wrote: »

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A blog reference cites it as being published/updated 2008

http://silknvoice.blogspot.com/2009/07/narth-and-bs.html

stephen_n

Shakti wrote: »

A blog reference cites it as being published/updated 2008

http://silknvoice.blogspot.com/2009/07/narth-and-bs.html

That's unbelieveable that he could say that in that way now.