WHICH MIXER? ECLER- XONE - UREI

mikelo303

Hi,

I need to decide within next few days which mixer to get.

I can buy new Ecler Nuo 2.0

New A&H Xone 22 (tested it already)

or used but great condition (no warranty, etc) Urei 1603

I playm mostly electronic music, techno, progressive, chillout and lounge. I passed my times of scratching and fast dialing. Now I am looking for slow-smooth transitions. I use Traktor with Kontorl X1 so effects are not important. I know Xone 22 and it's filter but I can emulate it (good enough) on Traktor so it's not a deal breaker anymore. Sound quality is most important for me and functionality. Again Xone queing system sucks but sound quality is really good. I was thinking now about Ecler as they are v.good sound too. Urei supposed to be best but I am worreid about durability. I will use it only in my studio by the way.

Any comments regarding sound quality of ecler over A&H or opposite? Eq's? Fader curve (not x-fader). Any input is welcome.

Thanks!

PS> I have to decide until Monday 26th I hope it's enough for you guys to share your experience.

hans aus dtschl

I currently own Ecler (SMAC30) and A&H (X92) mixers, but don't own a UREI. Build quality of all three is fantastic, and the sound is pretty good too.

The urei's a lot more featured, I'd prefer it. It's no longer produced though and I don't know if soundcraft would honour legacy components (probably not within the DJ range)

mikelo303

Yes I know it's discontinued. And still it's 300E so I am really thinking if it's worth it. Xone 22 is 300 also and Nuo 2 will cost me 60 more.

So in the end I might be choosing between Xone 22 and Ecler Nuo 2.0

Which sounds better between two?

hans aus dtschl

I understand your reservations about the Urei.

Between Ecler and A&H I prefer the build quality of Ecler. I gigged my SMAC30 to high hell without a flightcase for many years and it's still in perfect condition, just scratched up. It had a full pint through it at one stage and died, before coming back to life again one section at a time. Phenomenal. It's built like a tank. I'm not sure of the Nuo's quality versus the SMAC series, so look for some comparisons online. But as far as I know it was largely a rebadging exercise with new (and apparently better) knobs.

The lower end A&H, I don't feel the love, sorry. It's all about the name, it feels like.

The Urei, as I said, would be my first choice if all were still on the market. I do understand your reticence at buying it second hand now. It has significant advantages over the other two (no, not just the fader count!) like the way the EQ's are set, the way the headphones jack works, the fader lengths, etc.
I feel the A&H and Ecler are probably better for "faster" mixing, the Urei for "slower" mixing.

Just an opinion.

If you buy the Ecler, be prepared for everyone to melt your head on how you should have got an A&H or Pioneer though. You have been warned. Badge counts for an AWFUL lot in the general public's view of this market.

BaZmO*

mikelo303 wrote: »

Again Xone queing system sucks

Why so?

mikelo303

BaZmO* wrote: »

Why so?

Because you have 1 knob between left-right channel and button. That's it. No separate buttons and when you leave knob in the middle for both channels it sounds 30-40% quieter than master. SO you have to control it by adding volume. Then you have to tur volume down before pushing cue/master button. Kind of annoying but if you mix with one headphone (1 ear) it does not matter then. It's just XOne 22. I have no clue how it works on other mixers.

mikelo303

No my friend has Ecler Nuo 4 for sale. So it's Ecler nuo 4 vs Urei 1603.

Which one?

Any ideas?:rolleyes:

Westwood

what soundcard you using on traktor an audio 8 or similar?

mikelo303

Westwood wrote: »

what soundcard you using on traktor an audio 8 or similar?

Yep. Audio 4 exactly and Kontrol x1. I think now is Nuo 4 - 300E or Urei 1603 - 400E. Hard to decide but price difference is big. Not sure if 100 more justifies Urei better sound quality.

hans aus dtschl

That Ecler beats the Urei, for me.

Condition of each would be critical though. You won't go wrong with either if they're in good condition.

I'd have reservations about the Urei being described as better sound too.

Westwood

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/170807437665?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

This will go cheap **** your friend.

mikelo303

Thanks man. Yep I think I go for Ecler Nuo 4.0 from my friend for 200 something. Those assholes selling Urei have craqzy prices and stupid arguments like - Oh I paid for it 500 Sterling in 2008 (and I feckin was using it for 4 years) and now I want 400 Euro for it (with no warranty). I have no patience to deal with idiots. He paid 600 Euro 4 years ago and now wants 400 Euro (and no less, no negotiation, nothing). I had enough writing to both of them and dealing with their arguments.

DannyKing

A custom made DJR 400 portable rotary mixer by DJ Deep

http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/

mikelo303

DannyKing wrote: »

A custom made DJR 400 portable rotary mixer by DJ Deep

http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/

I just have a boner now. Weird...

ianuss

DannyKing wrote: »

A custom made DJR 400 portable rotary mixer by DJ Deep

http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/

I'm guessing they're stupidly expensive?

hans aus dtschl

They're not unreasonable for the quality, IMO

ianuss

How much? I couldn't see any prices on their website.

hans aus dtschl

I believe they're sliiightly more expensive the A&H 92.

Depends on whether you get them with or without the per-channel effects send. About the 1.6k mark basically. The send per channel is about 1.8k.

Been a while since i've seen the price though.