The influence of the Huguenots in Ireland ?

thecommietommy

Was reading up a bit on Wolfe Tone and came across this " The Tone family are of French Protestant origin, and moved from Glascony to England in the late 16th century due to religious persecution. A branch of the family moved to Ireland in the early 17th century and settled in Dublin. " *

This made me search a little more to come across this " The story of the Huguenots in eighteenth century Ireland is one of a group exercising influence beyond their numbers ....... In the north of Ireland, the Huguenots were mainly an economic influence and are above all credited with the development of the linen industry, having brought from France new skills and techniques. " **

I believe the area off the Liberties and the South Circuliar Road in Dublin known as the Tenters has a connection with the Huguenots, the word Tenters been associated with the tanning of leather ?

Has anyone any more information on this small group of people's huge contribution to Ireland ?


* http://seamuscullen.net/wolfetone.html
** http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/973/the-huguenots-in-ireland

pedroeibar1

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jonniebgood1

thecommietommy wrote: »

Was reading up a bit on Wolfe Tone and came across this " The Tone family are of French Protestant origin, and moved from Glascony to England in the late 16th century due to religious persecution. A branch of the family moved to Ireland in the early 17th century and settled in Dublin. " *

This made me search a little more to come across this " The story of the Huguenots in eighteenth century Ireland is one of a group exercising influence beyond their numbers ....... In the north of Ireland, the Huguenots were mainly an economic influence and are above all credited with the development of the linen industry, having brought from France new skills and techniques. " **

The Huguenots were involved in the battle of the boyne. European Protestants were invited to Ireland by an act of parliament in 1662.

As early as 1662 the Duke of Ormond introduced into the Irish Parliament “An Act for Encouraging Protestant Strangers and Others to Inhabit Ireland.”
The ports of Dublin (4 French Churches), Waterford (1 French Church) and Cork (2 French Churches) were centres where the Huguenots established themselves as entrepreneurs of business and commerce (import/export of wines and other goods, goldsmiths, spinners/weavers, glassmakers). The permanency and relative size of these settlements can be gauged from the numbers of their own French Churches, which these refugee settlements were able to support.
Portarlington (1 French Church) was a new model town built to host those army officers, from the French(Huguenot) regiments of William of Orange, who were pensioned off at the close of the war in Ireland(1691). Subsequently it was also home to pensioners from those same regiments who went on to serve in Marlborough’s army on the continent.

http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/guerin/huguenots_ireland.htm

Nitochris

thecommietommy wrote: »

Was reading up a bit on Wolfe Tone and came across this " The Tone family are of French Protestant origin, and moved from Glascony to England in the late 16th century due to religious persecution. A branch of the family moved to Ireland in the early 17th century and settled in Dublin. " *

This made me search a little more to come across this " The story of the Huguenots in eighteenth century Ireland is one of a group exercising influence beyond their numbers ....... In the north of Ireland, the Huguenots were mainly an economic influence and are above all credited with the development of the linen industry, having brought from France new skills and techniques. " **

I believe the area off the Liberties and the South Circuliar Road in Dublin known as the Tenters has a connection with the Huguenots, the word Tenters been associated with the tanning of leather ?

Has anyone any more information on this small group of people's huge contribution to Ireland ?


* http://seamuscullen.net/wolfetone.html
** http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/973/the-huguenots-in-ireland

You should read Ireland's Huguenots and their refuge, 1662-1745 : an unlikely haven by Raymond Hylton http://books.google.ie/books?id=LcJ04tHzK-8C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&q&f=false. Also in terms of genealogy there is a large stone slab in the Huguenot's cemetery with the names of many of the families who came here.

thecommietommy

jonniebgood1 wrote: »

The Huguenots were involved in the battle of the boyne. European Protestants were invited to Ireland by an act of parliament in 1662.

They probably were indeed. Quite a few continental mercenary's in William's army were Catholic also, not surprising really as William had the backing of the Pope.

CDfm

In East Cork there is the fantastic name Beausang which is Hugenot.

Here is a link to the Hugenot and Palatine immigrations

http://www.dochara.com/the-irish/surnames/hueguenot-palatine-names-in-ireland/

dave2pvd

CDfm wrote: »

In East Cork there is the fantastic name Beausang which is Hugenot.

Here is a link to the Hugenot and Palatine immigrations

http://www.dochara.com/the-irish/surnames/hueguenot-palatine-names-in-ireland/

Often wondered about the origin of my former teacher's name.

franc 91

There's one huguenot who was an important figure in Irish history and his name is Henri de Massue, 2nd Marquis de Ruvigny (he was also known by this name) who became the Earl of Galway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Massue_Earl_of_Galway

Snickers Man

I have heard, although it's not mentioned in any of those websites, that the relatively common Irish surname Shine is of Palatine origin. (Schein)

And also that the most famous Irish person of Huguenot origin was Sean Lemass.

But that's all just pub talk. And not with experts either!

comeraghs

The Hugenots are responsible for the introduction of The Blaa to Waterford. I'll not hear a word said against them!

philstar

the blaa??????????

EmeraldIPrints

Blaa is definately their biggest influence on me... After that George Du Noyer, who created an astounding painted catalog of Irish archaeology/geology in the 1800's..

franc 91

Not being from Waterford and not even being Irish, I was also mystified by what was meant by the word 'blaa' - I have now rectified my ignorance in the matter -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/encyclopedia/definition/blaa/251/
I see that the original spelling was blaad, which leads me to think that this word might come from Occitan - spoken in the South of France from where quite a few French protestants were forced to flee by a certain Louis XIV. In Occitan 'blat' (but it can also be pronounced 'blad' in certain dialects) is the word for corn (the kind that grows in a field and not on your feet, I hasten to add) - in standard French the word is blé.

golden lane

thecommietommy wrote: »

Was reading up a bit on Wolfe Tone and came across this " The Tone family are of French Protestant origin, and moved from Glascony to England in the late 16th century due to religious persecution. A branch of the family moved to Ireland in the early 17th century and settled in Dublin. " *

This made me search a little more to come across this " The story of the Huguenots in eighteenth century Ireland is one of a group exercising influence beyond their numbers ....... In the north of Ireland, the Huguenots were mainly an economic influence and are above all credited with the development of the linen industry, having brought from France new skills and techniques. " **

I believe the area off the Liberties and the South Circuliar Road in Dublin known as the Tenters has a connection with the Huguenots, the word Tenters been associated with the tanning of leather ?

Has anyone any more information on this small group of people's huge contribution to Ireland ?


* http://seamuscullen.net/wolfetone.html
** http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article/973/the-huguenots-in-ireland[/QUOTE]

i always thought ....tenters came from tenterhooks.....where they hung out the linen etc to dry......or maybe animal skins..?????

franc 91

For your information - there exists an Irish section of The Huguenot Society of Great Britain and Ireland. On their web site they mention 'Researching Huguenot Settlers in Ireland' by Vivien Costello which you can download.
http://www.huguenotsociety.org.uk/irish-section.html
There's also this -
http://www.rogerwilliams.net/family_history/huguenot/index.htm - where he indicates the number of 10.000 going to Ireland.
One important document is the 'Memoires of Dumont de Bostaquet 1672-1709, a gentleman in Normandy' which includes one of the few contemporary accounts of the Battle of the Boyne and the Siege of Limerick.
http://www.huguenots.fr/2010/09/les-memoires-de-dumont-de-bostaquet-1632-1709/#_ftnref5

Balmed Out

About 300 Huguenots settled in cork city in the 17th / 18th century around French church street in the area now known as the huguenot or french quarter, nice area of lanes with lots of cafes and restraunts. Theres still a Huguenot cemetary in the area too.I think in county cork they settled in Innishannon and youghal too.

CDfm

comeraghs wrote: »

The Hugenots are responsible for the introduction of The Blaa to Waterford. I'll not hear a word said against them!

Well, what about the word "chew" as in "one, chew , three "

franc 91

The Huguenot cemetery in Cork -
http://www.corkcity.ie/services/architects/huguenotcemeterycareyslane/
and
http://www.huguenotsinireland.com/about.html
- The Huguenots in Ireland -

chughes

As I understand it the La Touche family, who were French Huguenots originally, got involved in banking in Dublin and their bank eventually became part of what is now Bank of Ireland.

The Dublin Huguenot cemetery still exists on Merrion Row, just down from the Shelbourne Hotel.

franc 91

Yes La Touche family were a very influential family in Dublin as was the silversmith and banker Jeremiah d'Olier - you can look them up on the RDS (Royal Dublin Society) website.

byhookorbycrook

Palatine village is outside of Carlow town. Tiny little place. Am I correct in saying many Huguenot settled in Portlarlington?
The theme tune to "The Riordons",the farm based sit-com series was the tune known as "The Palatine's Daughter"

byhookorbycrook

"It is estimated that to-day only around 500 or so people living in Ireland can claim a Palatine origin, but some names which survive from this time include Fizelle, Fyffe, Ruttle, Glazier, Shouldice and Switzer. Benner is one that many visitors to Ireland will have seen – Benner’s is a long established and popular Dingle hotel."
http://www.dochara.com/the-irish/surnames/hueguenot-palatine-names-in-ireland/

Mr_Spaceman

There was a strong Huguenot presence in Lisburn, Ulster, where they established a thriving linen trade.

The Linen museum in the town pays tribute to the Huguenot settlers.