granulated lime question

vanderbadger

lads i got quoted 160/t for gran lime, my soil test recommended i think 2.5 to 3 ton gound lime per acre for various plots, what would this equate to with granulated lime. have never used gran lime but thought it might be handy just to do a few bits here and there

5live

vanderbadger wrote: »

lads i got quoted 160/t for gran lime, my soil test recommended i think 2.5 to 3 ton gound lime per acre for various plots, what would this equate to with granulated lime. have never used gran lime but thought it might be handy just to do a few bits here and there

You might be better of with the ground lime. The granulated stuff is only good for one year iirc and works out at twice the cost over 5 years. There was a bit of an article in the Journal on it last week if you can lay your hands on one.

On your question, you would be looking at 2 bags per acre of gran lime i think

oldsmokey

+1, that stuff is a rob. stick with ground lime.........

mattthetrasher

ground lime is 23 euro per tonne spread i think.better too.

Figerty

I put out gran Lime lastyear; there was no way the ground lime could have been spread with the ground conditions.

It made a huge difference to the qualtiy of the silage and grass.

You can spread it yourself; it is more expensive, but at least you know where it has been spread in the right amount, not just the top of the hills.

My recollection is that it is five times more effective than ground lime due to the particle size, but the effect doesn't last as long. I think I put out 1-2 bags to the acre. Some say its 10 times as effective.

All I know is that it worked for me and I spread it myself with wag tail.

josephsoap

I've another one

If you spread granulated limestone, how long should you leave the feild before you let cattle into that feild again ?

Figerty

I don't think it makes a difference to the cattle. I't not coating the leaf like ground lime.

Check ou the suppliers reccomendations

bbam

josephsoap wrote: »

I've another one

If you spread granulated limestone, how long should you leave the feild before you let cattle into that feild again ?

Also how long before spreading fertilizer??
I had a couple of fields was thinking of doing, was actually thinking of mixing the gran lime and 18:6:12 in the spreader to save travelling the ground twice.. maybe that wouldn't be a good idea ??

vanderbadger

a few more details here
http://www.gouldings.ie/products_gran_lime.htm

Conflats

Gran lime will sort out your short term problems but cheaper and better to use ground lime for longer lasting effects

hedgecutting eddie

vanderbadger wrote: »

lads i got quoted 160/t for gran lime, my soil test recommended i think 2.5 to 3 ton gound lime per acre for various plots, what would this equate to with granulated lime. have never used gran lime but thought it might be handy just to do a few bits here and there

i was quoted 150t for it but went with the ground lime 18 euro dlivered plus spread ,if u go spreadin 2 bags a acre set ur spread at 1.25 bags a acre it runs very quick out of the spreader

Farmer Pudsey

375 kgs of gran lime is equivlent to two tonne of ground lime I think however the most granlime you need to spread is two bags a year to bring up ph gradually it has certain advantages if you spread 2 tonnes of lime to the acre you will coat the grass cattle cannot graze it until 2-3 weeks after and on a dry year like this more. Gran lime is also high in magnesium which land is now becoming short of so you are getting a double whammy.

Granlime can be purchassed for about 140 a ton if you put it in with your fertlizer order and you will maybe get a discount of 3-8 euro/ton on the Fertlizer. You can use it as an annual cost the minimun ground lime that they will spread is 20 ton so 10 acres covered will cost about 450 euro for another 110 euro you will get 4 ton of gran lime which will cover 40 acres at 2 bags/ acre or 20 acres by 2 bags and 40 acres by one bag. If you are a smallish farmer gran lime will work out at near enough the same price as Ground lime. You also can spread it at any time no holdup in grazing rotation magnesium bonus and also a faster hit than ground lime.

I also find if I spread it every spring the cattle graze the paddocks very bare in May and June I have no dirty butts. It is tax efficient ie I have not got a big outlay one year and nothing the next, and as well if you get a wet summer after you spread ground lime the cattle can plough the land for you. It also has the advantage that you can use it on rented land.

Highland

Gran lime is 3 times more effective than ground lime meaning that you need to spread 1/3 the amount. So if you field requires 2 tonne of Ground limestone then you need to apply 13 x 50kg bags of gran lime over five years (i.e. 2.5 bags per year). The cost of ground lime = €50 upfront, cost of gran lime at €160/tonne = €106 or €21.20 per year.

Gran lime works faster than Gound lime. Ground lime may also have Magnesium if it is derived from dolomitic lime. But fertiliser Mg may be of little use if Potash levels are high

razor8

would it be advisable to spread lime on silage ground before it is closed up?

johngalway

vanderbadger wrote: »

lads i got quoted 160/t for gran lime, my soil test recommended i think 2.5 to 3 ton gound lime per acre for various plots, what would this equate to with granulated lime. have never used gran lime but thought it might be handy just to do a few bits here and there

Use the BFF search function and read every result that comes up There's an encyclopaedia of information on limes there, if you can manage ground lime, that's the one to buy.

Highland

razor8 wrote: »

would it be advisable to spread lime on silage ground before it is closed up?

Be carefull spreading ground lime on silage ground prior to closing - if you end up with lime in the silage it will act as a buffer and prevent preservation resulting in a pit/bales of FYM instead of silage.

razor8

how soon can you graze sheep after spreading gran lime. also i spread urea about 4 weeks ago, will this have any affect?

rancher

razor8 wrote: »

how soon can you graze sheep after spreading gran lime. also i spread urea about 4 weeks ago, will this have any affect?

I spread granlime with the sheep in the field three weeks ago, didn't do any harm

Highland

razor8 wrote: »

how soon can you graze sheep after spreading gran lime. also i spread urea about 4 weeks ago, will this have any affect?

Neither will have any effect. You can graze immediately. Urea can give nitrate posioning if its injested but this is only likely to happen if you spread and the dust sticks to grass and in subsequently injested. Once Urea is absorbed into soil its safe.

razor8

5live wrote: »

You might be better of with the ground lime. The granulated stuff is only good for one year iirc and works out at twice the cost over 5 years. There was a bit of an article in the Journal on it last week if you can lay your hands on one.

On your question, you would be looking at 2 bags per acre of gran lime i think

2 bags of what weight of bag.

i bought 2 600kg bags today and im not sure what rate per acre i should spread it. the merchant reckoned 300kg per acre so for my €165 i would only cover 4 acres.

any advice please?

bbam

razor8 wrote: »

2 bags of what weight of bag.

i bought 2 600kg bags today and im not sure what rate per acre i should spread it. the merchant reckoned 300kg per acre so for my €165 i would only cover 4 acres.

any advice please?

100-150kg per acre I was told.. I think that was on one of the supplier websites too..
So you bought 1200kg for €165, I just paid €190 for 1000kg.. , damn!
Where did you purchase ??

rancher

razor8 wrote: »

2 bags of what weight of bag.

i bought 2 600kg bags today and im not sure what rate per acre i should spread it. the merchant reckoned 300kg per acre so for my €165 i would only cover 4 acres.

any advice please?

100kg per acre per year to increase ph. or 50 kg per acre per year to maintain ph, brings up levels very quick but needs an annual dressing of 50 kg/ac to keep it right.
I paid 170 euros/tonne for 9 tonne plus 120 for delivery and spreading

razor8

bbam wrote: »

100-150kg per acre I was told.. I think that was on one of the supplier websites too..
So you bought 1200kg for €165, I just paid €190 for 1000kg.. , damn!
Where did you purchase ??

Thanks, that seems more like it

i bought from McCorry Agri in Derrylin, collected myself