If Yugoslavia still existed.

Copper_pipe

If yugoslavia still existed they would have a pretty good team:

If iv let someone out let me know

Pletioska
Kolarov-Vidic-Ivanovic-Srna
Krasic-Modric-Misimovic-Pandev
Zigic- Dzeko

Dempsey

Looks good on paper but I think there would still be irreconcilable differences within the squad even if Yugoslavia managed to stay intact.

Hazys

I highly recommend people watch the 30 for 30 documentary "Once Brothers" about the 2 Yugoslavian basketball palyers Vlade Divac and Drazen Petrovic, how they were best friends before the war and enemies after...its pretty amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hOst_NExGI

HalloweenJack

Dempsey wrote: »

Looks good on paper but I think there would still be irreconcilable differences within the squad even if Yugoslavia managed to stay intact.

Basques and Catalans helped Spain win the Euros and the WC. I know the situation is nowhere near as sever as what's gone on in the former Yugoslavia.

But, working with the hypothetical situation that Yugoslavia still existed, then there wouldn't have been the wars and the all the slaughter that brought with it so the tension between ethnicities or cultures would be less tense, maybe.

The USSR team in Euro 88 had Russians, Ukrainians, Georgians, Tatars and even an ethnic Hungarian. Teams can be built with members from different backgrounds, even ones who have big trouble with each other.

If anything, I'd say it's a good way to relieve tension as you're working together for a common goal.

spirit_77

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token101

I'd say Zigic would struggle to get in there now tbh! Off the top of my head, Eduardo would get in before him or even Pranjic/Krancjar on the left and Pandev up front. Bound to be a few more aswell that would get in there, Subotic, etc. They'd have a class squad though.

Disliking each other wouldn't mean they wouldn't be successful, the Dutch do OK and they all f***ing hate each other :pac:

Will I Amnt

Copper_pipe wrote: »

If yugoslavia still existed they would have a pretty good team:

If iv let someone out let me know

Pletioska
Kolarov-Vidic-Ivanovic-Srna
Krasic-Modric-Misimovic-Pandev
Zigic- Dzeko

Vucinic in for Zigic for starters.
I'd make room for Pjanic aswell so Misimovic would miss out there.
There has to be someone better than Krasic,no?

JPA

Dempsey wrote: »

Looks good on paper but I think there would still be irreconcilable differences within the squad even if Yugoslavia managed to stay intact.

I suppose the whole premise of the thread is that the war etc did not happen.
Before the war the was peaceful co existence between the people's of the Balkans. The war did strange things.

eagle eye

When Youguslavia existed they had great teams on paper but never achieved anything. Below is the team that lost out in a penalty shootout in 1990 to Argentina.

Yugoslavia

• Line-up
• [1]
  Tomislav IVKOVIC (GK)
• [3]
  Predrag SPASIC
• [4]
  Zoran VULIC
• [5]
  Faruk HADZIBEGIC
• [6]
  Davor JOZIC
• [7]
  Dragoljub BRNOVIC
• [8]
  Safet SUSIC (-61')
• [10]
  Dragan STOJKOVIC
• [11]
  Zlatko VUJOVIC (C)
• [15]
  Robert PROSINECKI
• [16]
  Refik SABANADZOVIC

• Substitute(s)
• [2]
  Vujadin STANOJKOVIC
• [9]
  Darko PANCEV
• [12]
  Fahrudin OMEROVIC
• [13]
  Srecko KATANEC
• [14]
  Alen BOKSIC
• [17]
  Robert JARNI
• [18]
  Mirsad BALJIC
• [19]
  Dejan SAVICEVIC (+61')
• [20]
  Davor SUKER
• [21]
  Andrej PANADIC
• [22]
  Dragoje LEKOVIC

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/edition=76/results/matches/match=31/report.html

Rekop dog

How has Jovetic not been mentioned yet?

CSF

Copper_pipe wrote: »

If yugoslavia still existed they would have a pretty good team:

If iv let someone out let me know

Pletioska
Kolarov-Vidic-Ivanovic-Srna
Krasic-Modric-Misimovic-Pandev
Zigic- Dzeko

Only 1 world class player there for me, and only Modric and Dzeko in the level below that. Better than Ireland granted, but I wouldn't go mad over that side at all.

kitakyushu

The World Cup 90 team was a very good one who might have gone further. They were certainly one of the few teams at that tournament who played decent football anyway.

I always assumed 'Yugoslavia' was made up of mostly Serbs and Croats but it's interesting to see the nationality breakdown of that WC90 squad for instance. More or less everyone seems to get a look in and Bosnia&Herzegovina was heavily represented.

5	2DF 	Faruk Hadžibegić 	Bosnia and Herzegovina,
6	2DF 	Davor Jozić 	Bosnia and Herzegovina,
8	3MF 	Safet Sušić 	Bosnia and Herzegovina,
11	4FW 	Zlatko Vujović (c) 	Bosnia and Herzegovina,
12	1GK 	Fahrudin Omerović 	Bosnia and Herzegovina,
18	2DF 	Mirsad Baljić 	Bosnia and Herzegovina,

1	1GK 	Tomislav Ivković 	Croatia
4	2DF 	Zoran Vulić 	Croatia
14	4FW 	Alen Bokšić 	Croatia
15	3MF 	Robert Prosinečki 	Croatia
17	2DF 	Robert Jarni 	Croatia
20	4FW 	Davor Šuker 	Croatia
21	2DF 	Andrej Panadić 	Croatia

2	2DF 	Vujadin Stanojković 	Macedonia
9	4FW 	Darko Pančev 	Macedonia

7	3MF 	Dragoljub Brnović 	Montenegro.
16	3MF 	Refik Šabanadžović 	Montenegro.

3	2DF 	Predrag Spasić 	Serbia
10	3MF 	Dragan Stojković 	Serbia
19	3MF 	Dejan Savićević 	Serbia
22	1GK 	Dragoje Leković 	Serbia

13	3MF 	Srečko Katanec 	Slovenia

Rekop dog

CSF wrote: »

Only 1 world class player there for me, and only Modric and Dzeko in the level below that. Better than Ireland granted, but I wouldn't go mad over that side at all.

You clearly haven't seen much of Jovetic, he's class.

Handanovic also a world class goal-keeper, who'd easily make the number 1 position in this team.

EdenHazard

Yeah the team the op posted isn't good, they could actually field a class team tho(if still existed)

But ya never know, the serbian teams looks very good throughout and has done for years but they constantly do nothing(never qualify) and when they did they were the worst team in it(wc 2006)

steelcityblues

I think Savicevic was Montenegran, not Serbian.

Euro 92 is the great 'what if'. Given a Denmark side with very few stars won the thing, they would have had a great chance too.

CSF

Rekop dog wrote: »

CSF wrote: »

Only 1 world class player there for me, and only Modric and Dzeko in the level below that. Better than Ireland granted, but I wouldn't go mad over that side at all.

You clearly haven't seen much of Jovetic, he's class.

Handanovic also a world class goal-keeper, who'd easily make the number 1 position in this team.

Vidic was the 1 world class player I was refering to. If you really think Jovetic is in the top 10 forwards in the world or Handanovic in the same calibre of goalies then I'm worried for you.

If you fall outside that category I don't know how you can term a player world class without cheapening the term.

Messi world class, Ronaldo world class, Van Persie world class, Bale world class, Ibrahimovic world class, Xavi, Iniesta and Benzema too. Jovetic? No.

Rekop dog

CSF wrote: »

Vidic was the 1 world class player I was refering to. If you really think Jovetic is in the top 10 forwards in the world or Handanovic in the same calibre of goalies then I'm worried for you.

If you fall outside that category I don't know how you can term a player world class without cheapening the term.

Messi world class, Ronaldo world class, Van Persie world class, Bale world class, Ibrahimovic world class, Xavi, Iniesta and Benzema too. Jovetic? No.

Handanovic has been the best goalie in Serie A this year by a fair bit, probably top 3 in Europe this season.

Jovetic is excellent, didn't say he was top 10 in the world but there's very few international teams that have a collection of world class (by your definition) players in their team so it's doesn't take anything special to be considered a top international side. I think this one would be, well not the one that op did but the genuine best players from that region would be extremely competitive in big competitions.

Ulysses Gaze

The Last Yugoslav Football Team is a great documentary on the Yugoslav team that won the 1987 World Youth Championships. They had some team including Boban, Prosinecki, Mijatovic...

If you assembled the best team from the region around 1992-1998, assuming no war had taken place, they would have won at least one of the major championships (In fact I'd say both the Euros) and given Brazil a run for their money at the World Cup in 1994.

We'll never know though.

losthorizon

steelcityblues wrote: »

I think Savicevic was Montenegran, not Serbian.

Euro 92 is the great 'what if'. Given a Denmark side with very few stars won the thing, they would have had a great chance too.

You are right about Savicevic. He was from Montenegro.

Rhys Essien

Next up,imagine if lads from the island of Ireland,and a few from England and Scotland played on the one team.:D

G.K.

Being brutallly honest that would be England with Bale and maybe Bellamy/Dunne.

kitakyushu

The England squad is almost systematically made up of players from the same six clubs (ManC ManU Liv Ars Tot Chel) , so unless the Irish, Welsh, Scots players were good enough to make those particular teams (or are a goalie! where england are shocking lacking) then they'd probably not get a look in for the England national team either.

As such, Given and Bale would definitely make the England squad. Jonny Evans might squeak in too after taking good advantage of Vidic's absence for ManU.

G.K.

Oh and Evans.

grenache

Pandev is cack, and I'm a Napoli fan. Swap him for Fiorentina's Jovectic (sp?). Krasic can't get near the first team at Juve, so I wouldn't have him in there either. As for Zigic, i'll try not to laugh.

I also agree with the poster who supported Handanovic's inclusion. He has been superb for Udinese this season.

GavRedKing

CSF wrote: »

Vidic was the 1 world class player I was refering to. If you really think Jovetic is in the top 10 forwards in the world or Handanovic in the same calibre of goalies then I'm worried for you.

If you fall outside that category I don't know how you can term a player world class without cheapening the term.

Messi world class, Ronaldo world class, Van Persie world class, Bale world class, Ibrahimovic world class, Xavi, Iniesta and Benzema too. Jovetic? No.

Eeeeehhhhh??

Ulysses Gaze

gavredking wrote: »

Eeeeehhhhh??

and I'd say the same for Benzema.

I'd rate Edinson Cavani ahead of Benzema.