Harcourt Street Line Development

bbuzz

Anyone know what's going on the old trackbed between Leopardstown Rd and Brewery Rd?

The wall on the Leopardstown road end has been knocked and they seem to be paving it. Also a lot of activity at the other end.

dowlingm

the answer can be found here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=leopardstown+road+brewery+road+bike

Judgement Day

At least it will safeguard the trackbed so that the Luas can eventually be rerouted through from Sandyford to Carrickmines and the farcical, but aesthetically pleasing, deviation abandoned.

Losty Dublin

Judgement Day wrote: »

At least it will safeguard the trackbed so that the Luas can eventually be rerouted through from Sandyford to Carrickmines and the farcical, but aesthetically pleasing, deviation abandoned.

Good idea. First building to CPO on the old trackbed is the Sunshine Home; them poor orphans

dowlingm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Good idea. First building to CPO on the old trackbed is the Sunshine Home; them poor orphans

The Troika will be putting them on the auction block any day now so no worries.

CIE

Judgement Day wrote: »

At least it will safeguard the trackbed so that the Luas can eventually be rerouted through from Sandyford to Carrickmines and the farcical, but aesthetically pleasing, deviation abandoned.

Bike paths don't preserve railways for that purpose. It'll stay a bike path. There's too much of a passenger base in Ballyogan for the Luas to be removed from that route.

One of the earliest bike paths is the former North Shore Line out of Chicago (terminating at Waukegan, Illinois), which was converted to what is now known as the Robert McClory Bike Path, originally named the North Shore Bike Path, shortly after the Chicago, North Shore and Milwaukee Railroad went out of business in 1963. The same fate awaits the original alignment of the Harcourt Street Line through Sandyford, Leopardstown and Foxrock. Video below shows what the North Shore route used to look like as active...an electrified railway that ran onto the Chicago "L" system (using third rail there, and overhead wires with trolley poles on "home rails")...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27GwxWis-2g

LXFlyer

Judgement Day wrote: »

At least it will safeguard the trackbed so that the Luas can eventually be rerouted through from Sandyford to Carrickmines and the farcical, but aesthetically pleasing, deviation abandoned.

Ah yes, the farcical deviation that serves all the housing estates around Leopardstown Valley - replace it with a route through green fields with no population centres.

corktina

lxflyer wrote: »

Ah yes, the farcical deviation that serves all the housing estates around Leopardstown Valley - replace it with a route through green fields with no population centres.

But thats what we do with new lines isnt it? or is it different in that Duberlin place?

LXFlyer

The Green Line south of the Leopardstown Valley area is going through green fields, however the alignment immediately south of Sandyford is serving a sizeable population (unlike the original line which only served a vastly smaller number).

It's utterly farcical that certain people cannot see that.

Judgement Day

Given that it was intended to convert the Green Line into a Metro operation in the long term, the original Harcourt Street alignment would have been the logical route to follow. The existing terminus at Brides Glen doesn't even line up with the old Brides Glen viaduct which the further extension of the Luas or Metro was to use.

bbuzz

Judgement Day wrote: »

Given that it was intended to convert the Green Line into a Metro operation in the long term, the original Harcourt Street alignment would have been the logical route to follow. The existing terminus at Brides Glen doesn't even line up with the old Brides Glen viaduct which the further extension of the Luas or Metro was to use.

Is that not because there has to be a different alignment to get to Bray since the M50 and M11 are in the way and it's not going to head into Shankhill.

Losty Dublin

bbuzz wrote: »

Is that not because there has to be a different alignment to get to Bray since the M50 and M11 are in the way and it's not going to head into Shankhill.

The M 50 isn't interfering with the trackbed at all. It was rerouted via Ballyogan to serve housing; developer levies part paying for it's construction costs. The M 11 cuts through the bed just before it meets the M 50 but it could easily be raised over it if need be.

monument

Great idea in general, but... oh dear... why are they using shared use at junctions?

http://www.dlrcoco.ie/aboutus/councildepartments/planning/proposedpart8schemes/pc0211-breweryroadtoleopardstownroad/#d.en.6479