Are Dublin bus running Monday timetables today?

colly10

Just wondering if Sunday or Monday timetable is being used today, I can't find any info on it, thanks

dublinman1990

It appears the 7b is running a normal evening service today.

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/RTPI/Sources-of-Real-Time-Information/?searchtype=view&searchquery=4962

This is a big change in policy which is mad.

noelfirl

Monday 19th March 2012
A weekday service will operate with the following exceptions, 7b, 7d, 25x, 27x, 32x, 33d, 33x, 41x, 46e, 51d, 51x, 66x, 67x, 69x, 77x, 116 and 118.

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/St-Patricks-Festival-/

Either that's not completely correct or the real time may have resorted to displaying scheduled times.

spareman

Dublin Bus Management decided to operate Saturday as the bank holiday (ie. Sunday service) and a full normal weekday service today.

I drove route 27 this morning from 5.45am to 10.30am and carried about 10 passengers in that time, It was a little busier this afternoon.

Strange management decisions, I wonder how much if any input the NTA had and next week they will be looking for another pay cut of us.:rolleyes:

liger

spareman wrote: »

I drove route 27 this morning from 5.45am to 10.30am and carried about 10 passengers in that time, It was a little busier this afternoon.

I heards two drivers talking today. Apparently one started this morning and up to his lunch didnt get a single passenger.

dublinman1990

Here is a picture of one of my local bus routes running surprisingly on Bank Holiday Monday in Blackrock.

http://www.dublinbus.cc/WV44%20114%20190312.jpg

lil5

spareman wrote: »

Dublin Bus Management decided to operate Saturday as the bank holiday (ie. Sunday service) and a full normal weekday service today.

Maybe one of them needed to get a bus yesterday ...

LXFlyer

This has nothing to do with any change of policy.

This problem arises only when St Patrick's Day falls on a Saturday.

Saturday is a normal working day for Dublin Bus and as such the bank holiday was taken on that day, and Monday is treated as a normal working day.

The same problem occurs when Christmas Day or St Stephen's Day fall on a Saturday. If Christmas Day is a Saturday, then the Monday is a Sunday service (for the bank holiday in lieu of St Stephen's Day), but the Tuesday is a normal service. If St Stephen's Day is a Saturday, then a normal service operates on the Monday following.

LXFlyer

And to clarify it is a daft situation.

Frankly a modified Sunday service with extra early morning services on each QBC would have been more appropriate for both days.

Mrs OBumble

lxflyer wrote: »

This has nothing to do with any change of policy.

This problem arises only when St Patrick's Day falls on a Saturday.

Saturday is a normal working day for Dublin Bus and as such the bank holiday was taken on that day, and Monday is treated as a normal working day.

The same problem occurs when Christmas Day or St Stephen's Day fall on a Saturday. If Christmas Day is a Saturday, then the Monday is a Sunday service (for the bank holiday in lieu of St Stephen's Day), but the Tuesday is a normal service. If St Stephen's Day is a Saturday, then a normal service operates on the Monday following.

So this is a case when DB is less-well-managed than BÉ, who did manage to operate Sunday timetables on both Saturday and Monday? (Ref: http://www.buseireann.ie/news.php?id=1065&month=Mar)

Surely even if, umm, industrial relations concerns, mean that they need to pay drivers for the full roster on Monday, it still would have been cheaper to have many of them sit in the depots and do "special training" (or whatever it's called ) than out running empty buses around?

LXFlyer

I'm not defending it - just explaining why it is that way.

paddyandy

+ to favourites on dublin Bus app. I can never retrieve the list .sorry a bit ot .

Mrs OBumble

lxflyer wrote: »

I'm not defending it - just explaining why it is that way.

But it doesn't explain it.

If BE can do two Sundays in a long weekend, then why can't DB?

LXFlyer

Because presumably BE negotiated it with the unions at some stage.

DB are currently in the middle of a network restructuring and probably took a managerial decision that it's a matter to be discussed/agreed for another day. One battle at a time I would guess.

To me it is frankly a no-brainer in these circumstances to have the following changes in service pattern:

Week between Christmas and New Year: Modified Saturday service with additional early morning workings where necessary (where Saturday service starts later than weekdays or frequency is too low).

Good Friday: As above

St Patrick's Day: Modified Sunday service with extra early morning departures
Monday after St Patrick's Day (if on a Saturday): Sunday service

KD345

Does Dublin Bus have the final say in this anymore? Doesn't the NTA now decide on the level of service provided?

Perhaps Dublin Bus wanted to operate a Sunday service but were refused.

LXFlyer

I don't think the NTA get quite down to that level of detail.

Yes they do review timetable changes, but I'm unaware that they specify service levels on public holidays. Such matters would have to be agreed internally in the company regardless.