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Intimidating Neighbours

  • 18-03-2012 4:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Going unreg for this one.. Background:
    I live in a smallish cul-de-sac. I have been here nearly 20 years and have never had any problem worth mentioning in this time.
    I have a long term illness and have been single since my partner left some yrs ago. I do have 2 sons , one in Uni and the other doing his L.C.
    This family moved in before xmas. I was offered drugs the first day i said 'hello' to them in the garden!!! (i said no, obviously) They have 3 kids aged about 4-8 who they allow out on the road from about 7.30 am weekends & holidays. The noise they make is unreal, screeching, fighting , crying, noisy toys.
    . Today my son went out to them at 10am to ask them to keep it down a little, the man of the house (not kids father) came out and was very intimidating to my son, so he just left it. About an hour later, the mother came over and rang my bell a few times , and tried to start an argument with my son who closed the door in her face. I know this prob will just escalate over the summer. I was ill in bed, not able for confrontation.
    There are some other little kids on the road, but they never play with these kids. And they make little or no noise at all, nice pleasant kids. Seems their kids are shunted out the door as soon as they wake up if its not raining.

    They are renting as far as I know , well they must be if they send their kids around the doors looking for 'a loan of a fiver for me maaa', ' any tea-bags or smokes for me maa' , 'd'ya have a few spare firelighters'- you get the picture.

    With my son's exams coming up (one is repeating uni exams in Aug ) I can see this escalating. I was thinking of asking some neighbours what they thought, as i am not the nearest house to them, in fact there are some young babies and elderly on the road, and this must be affecting them too. Believe me, it is hard to concentrate on anything with the roars and screams of them, and I am afraid of them and their 'mates',
    Any ideas on what to do? I was going to ring the Gardai to log todays incident, both of them were spoiling for a fight, I really don't need this right now. But then I think is that over-reacting. Any ideas please? Thanks for reading.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Daisy M


    Can you find out who owns the house and speak with them? It doesnt sound as if they would be the best at keeping the house in good repair so maybe the landlord would be glad of a tip off especially if he/she is using a rental agency.

    I wouldnt ring the guards just yet as it will be obvious it was you. Tell your son to keep away from them. Speak to other neighbours you know and suss out their opinions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭edellc


    we just had a similar situation to yourself...I live in a small courtyard and a few months ago a traveller family moved in....I didnt judge and was quite happy to welcome them they however are a nightmare.

    Their kids run wild sitting on top of cars and jumping on windscreens, I dont have a car so it doesnt effect me but the people here have some fancy cars, lucky no damage as of yet

    Yesterday the man kicked the **** out of his wife in the middle of the courtyard with the kids screaming their heads off, she in turn belted him with a crowbar and ran into the house he put his hand through the pane of glass on the front door to get in...the guards where called and he left.....she then has some mates over all drinking and music blaring until 5am you could hear furniture getting smashed also, the guards where called 3 times last night and took a few of them away....this morning some one had called the LL as he turned up to assess the damage and again the guards came over...its completely f*cked up as we have a roma family living here also and in the 10years they have been here not once has the guards been called yet a traveller family and all hell breaks loose....hopefully they will be getting evicted soon

    So OP if I where you I would call the guards and make a complaint of intimidation also if you are talking to neighbours be very careful as you dont know who would go back and say something even in innocence, but I would call the guards every time their is an incident be it kids begging for money....yes that is what they are doing and it is reportable purely out of concern for their welfare :D ....or someone banging on your door and you "dont know who it is" or just general shouting at you or in your direction then thats intimidation.....it all builds up and if and when they continue to do this you have to rise above and not acknowledge or reply to them...they can get a asbo

    also do try find out who the landlord is and try get in contact as a concerned neighbour


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Arrange a meeting with your neighbours, this way no one will be singled out for reporting them. You don't want them harassing you every day.
    If you know who the landlord is contact him and let him know how unhappy everyone is with the tenants. I would not call the gardai straight away as it will make it look obvious it's you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    Hey OP,

    That's so lame, sounds like it's the last thing you need. If I were you I'd get a notebook and write everything down, just in case you need it later on. Then I'd get chatting with your neighbours and see how everyone else is getting on. Then with the neighbours support, I'd get in contact with the LL to see if they are aware of who they are renting to. Finally if it all contintued I'd call the police every single time they step outta line.

    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    The landlord has a legal obligation to ensure tenants allow others reasonable and peaceful enjoyment of their property.
    Keep a record, get in touch with other neighbours and then contact the landlord
    If you have the backing of a few neighbours, they cant just say use the its just one crackpot excuse and it will look better for you to anyone looking at from a complaint viewpoint.
    Inform the landlord of his rights under the PRTB, he may not be reg in which case the noisy tenants will bring attention to him and fines or if reg then it may help the landlord get them evicted as a landlord might have difficulty doing that without some backup from neighbours, so the landlord may even be your ally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    rolipoli wrote: »
    The landlord has a legal obligation to ensure tenants allow others reasonable and peaceful enjoyment of their property.
    Keep a record, get in touch with other neighbours and then contact the landlord
    If you have the backing of a few neighbours, they cant just say use the its just one crackpot excuse and it will look better for you to anyone looking at from a complaint viewpoint.
    Inform the landlord of his rights under the PRTB, he may not be reg in which case the noisy tenants will bring attention to him and fines or if reg then it may help the landlord get them evicted as a landlord might have difficulty doing that without some backup from neighbours, so the landlord may even be your ally.

    OP, you have rights the same as they have, and it sounds like they're engaging in anti-social behaviour. In certain cases a landlord has the right to kick out tenants who engage in anti-social behaviour, especially if they're disturbing other people.

    If these people create a disturbance between midnight and 7am keep a record of this and call the Gardai. They shouldn't be doing this in a residential area.

    They offered you drugs. That's enough!


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