Zeitgeist, the way forward

recedite

Just wondering if anyone has seen this movie, and what they think of it.
It purports to be about "the scientific method applied to social concern."
There is a wide ranging discussion including epigenetics, peak oil, bank bailouts, fiat currencies and money as debt, 3D printers and finally a proposal to use a computer system instead of "the markets" to direct the flow of resources and the economy. 2.5 hours.

I'd say it correctly identifies the sources of society's main problems.

Zombrex

recedite wrote: »

I'd say it correctly identifies the sources of society's main problems.

I don't have 2 and a half hours, what are they?

sponsoredwalk

I think Part I was pretty amazing, part II pretty good, part III far too cultish for me & part IV downright ridiculous, I'm pretty sure that's more or less the structure of every Zeitgeist movie.

I wouldn't trust any of the Zeitgeist stuff considering all of the first one was of the upmost **** all the way through.
I'm honestly surprised people here even take it part way seriously.

Turtwig

I really do not understand people's obsession with documentaries for making what they believe to be rational arguments. Let me put it this way. I for the first time in God knows how long decided to watch RTE news this evening. The entire bulletin was about half and hour. I could probably have read the entire news content it covered in under 10 minutes. Why was this 2.5 hour video made? To put forward an argument or simply to convince people by heart felt strings and emotional imagery of its points? As far as I am concerned documentaries and other form of information tv are just modes of propaganda. Please just leave television for being a form of entertainment and not serious stuff because when it's serious it's rarely objective or honest.:(

Jernal

Jernal wrote: »

I really do not understand people's obsession with documentaries for making what they believe to be rational arguments. Let me put it this way. I for the first time in God knows how long decided to watch RTE news this evening. The entire bulletin was about half and hour. I could probably have read the entire news content it covered in under 10 minutes. Why was this 2.5 hour video made? To put forward an argument or simply to convince people by heart felt strings and emotional imagery of its points? As far as I am concerned documentaries and other form of information tv are just modes of propaganda. Please just leave television for being a form of entertainment and not serious stuff because when it's serious it's rarely objective or honest.:(

<Cough> Cosmos <cough>

Turtwig

King Mob wrote: »

<Cough> Cosmos <cough>

Cosmos Book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TV Series.

not breaking the page >>> breaking the page

recedite

Zombrex wrote: »

I don't have 2 and a half hours, what are they?

Well... the greed of some, leading to inequality of opportunity, leading to suffering and hostility among the others, and all enabled and facilitated by a rigged monetary system.

Cultish?
I think it is inevitable that we will hand over control of the world economy to a computer in the end, to achieve the most efficient management of resources, it's just a question of when.
Isaac Asimov predicted something similar in his book I, Robot way back in the 1930's, also his famous 3 laws of robotics. Since then we've had the Hollywood versions; Skynet with Terminators and the I, Robot movie all extolling the virtues of the opposite view; ie keep humans at the helm.
Asimov was a Russian American, big in Mensa and Humanism, of Jewish descent. The aforementioned Carl Sagan dabbled in sci-fi too, before Cosmos.

We know only too well what happened here in Ireland when lack-lustre politicians made the call to commit non-existent money "belonging to" future generations of Irish people to pay off corrupt financial institutions.
Austerity, unemployment and emigration have resulted.
Even now the various parties; TD's, Eurocrats and bankers are squaring up, trading insults (in Latin of all languages) about the status of billions of € in "promissory notes" with our guys apparently hoping to magic them away.

All this stuff is connected.

Turtwig

bluewolf wrote: »

not breaking the page >>> breaking the page

Ahem my sincere apologies when I wrote the post they were appearing in consecutive lines a lá sponsoredwalk's posts.

sponsoredwalk

This is pretty hilarious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzdgHiYpLPI