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Flywheel replacement but no clutch??

  • 18-03-2012 10:39am
    #1
    flyingsnail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭


    2003 Mondeo 1.8 Petrol 92K Miles

    The flywheel on my mondeo is rattling and is probably going to need to be replaced soon but the thing is I am really tight on cash at the moment. I was hoping somebody might be able to give me a run-down on the pros and cons of replacing the Flywheel but not clutch.

    Is it a good idea or a complete no no? I know if I need a new clutch in the future I will have duplicate labour costs. Other than increases long term labour costs are there any other cons?

    Also if I do replace the clutch do I also need to replace the release bearing or just the clutch.

    Thanks guys.


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  • #2
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Why do you actually want to replace a fly-wheel?
    AFAIK it's a normal single-mass flywheel, and sure it's not the flywheels which is rattling.

    Also release bearing probably comes in a set with a clutch when you buy it.

    If I were you, I would find out what is actually rattling, as it's rather not a flywheel.


  • #3
    flyingsnail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


    CiniO wrote: »
    Why do you actually want to replace a fly-wheel?
    AFAIK it's a normal single-mass flywheel, and sure it's not the flywheels which is rattling.

    Also release bearing probably comes in a set with a clutch when you buy it.

    If I were you, I would find out what is actually rattling, as it's rather not a flywheel.
    Nope its a dual mass flywheel


  • #4
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I'd definitely replace the clutch anyway. 92k miles it's going to be worn. When it's out anyway the extra cost of a clutch won't be a whole lot.


  • #5
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    flyingsnail wrote: »
    Nope its a dual mass flywheel

    Sorry. You are right.
    I'm actually very surprised, as I used to have mondeo 1.8 petrol for a year, and I was nearly 100% sure it has a singlemass flywheel.
    Also those engines (1.8 and 2.0) are used in mazda 6 which i have now, and they definitely have singlemass flywheels there.

    Sorry for confusing you.

    PS. In regards clutch.
    Depends how long are you planning to drive this car. WHen your mechanic takes the clutch out he will see how much is it worn.
    F.e If you are planning to keep the car only for another year or two and do something like 30k km, and clutch is not worn that much, you would probably be OK without changing it.
    However if you are planing sticking to the car for longer, or clutch is nearly completely worn, I would definitely change it.


  • #6
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    gpf101 wrote: »
    I'd definitely replace the clutch anyway. 92k miles it's going to be worn. When it's out anyway the extra cost of a clutch won't be a whole lot.

    Exactly its a bit like washing your feet and putting on dirty socks...


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  • #7
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Are you sure the flywheel is the cause of the noise? The petrol Mondeos don't usually give that kind of trouble.


  • #8
    flyingsnail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


    George Dalton wrote: »
    Are you sure the flywheel is the cause of the noise? The petrol Mondeos don't usually give that kind of trouble.

    that’s exactly what my mechanic said. Suppose getting a second opinion couldn’t hurt but I have no reason to doubt him.


  • #9
    gyppo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    Not sure on petrol mondeos, but the drivebelt pulleys for the AC Compressor and alternator do get sloppy on the diesels, and the result is a rattle on tickover. Might be worth checking out - whole lot cheaper than a flywheel replacement!


  • #10
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    The cost of the clutch is going to be very small compared to the cost of the flywheel and labour so the savings made by not replacing the clutch will be tiny.


  • #11
    lomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    Exactly its a bit like washing your feet and putting on dirty socks...

    Is your location not in the poor box though:D
    The engineer in me would change the clutch the businessman in me wouldnt if it works. Its your call/money though.


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  • #12
    flyingsnail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


    Well lets assume that I can just about afford the flywheel + labour. If the clutch is good is there any mechanical or technical reason that it should be changed?


  • #13
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    flyingsnail wrote: »
    Well lets assume that I can just about afford the flywheel + labour. If the clutch is good is there any mechanical or technical reason that it should be changed?

    Like brake pads and disks, the clutch plate will have bedded into the flywheel surface so by fitting the old clutch disk onto a new flywheel, you could end up with a clutch that doesn't engage properly or judders when pulling away. And in the process of bedding the clutch in, you will accelerate its wear, which, at 92k, will be towards the end of its life anyway.

    Think of it this way, if you don't change the clutch and then find its juddering or wears out in a couple of thousand miles.....you'll have to pay for essentially the same job again.


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