High5 4:1

kevinm177

Hi guys im just wondering where in the tipperary area you can buy this in the citrus flavour. Also what do ye think of the product? Thanks a mill

Sosa

kevinm177 wrote: »

Hi guys im just wondering where in the tipperary area you can buy this in the citrus flavour. Also what do ye think of the product? Thanks a mill

Not sure about Tipp kevin but i get mine online at wiggle.com free delivery also.
I love the stuff,used it for my last marathon training and will be getting a tub of it soon.

ThisRegard

If you can get it locally do so, in Dublin anyway I don't find the prices any more expensive than Wiggle unless they're part of a particularly cheap offer.

tunney

There is absolutely no research to prove that there is any benefit to the addition of protein to a carbohydrate drink for during exercise. Plenty saying that there isn't though.

ThisRegard

The OP was only asking where he can get it from, he never said when he's going to drink it.

Anyway, here's a somewhat biased analysis as it's from High5 themselves

http://www.highfive.co.uk/reviews/4-1_review.pdf
There's also more independent research here from Scientist Live, although there's no specific mention that 4:1 as the magic ratio (the athlete in me link mentions that in fact Pacific Labs patented sports drinks in the US with such a ratio and therefore other manufacturers couldn't use it) the researcher does say it's dependent on activity levels.
http://www.scientistlive.com/European-Food-Scientist/Opinion/The_carb-protein_drink_advantage/21642/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19108717

The conclusion of one such report is

Under these experimental conditions, liquid C+P ingestion immediately after exercise increases fat oxidation, increases recovery, and improves subsequent same day, 60 min efforts relative to isoenergetic CHO ingestion.

C+P refers to carbs and protein, CHO is isoenergetic liquid carbohydrates.

More here
http://www.athleteinme.com/ArticleView.aspx?id=358

So plenty of research and evidence that there are benefits to mixing carbs and proteins.

tunney

Some more recent research

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21946154

"CONCLUSIONS:
Adding protein to a glucose-sodium solution ingested during exercise had neutral impact on exogenous carbohydrate oxidation and perception, and little impact on metabolic measures associated with endurance performance. We conclude that previously reported effects of protein co-ingestion on endurance capacity were unlikely due to increased exogenous carbohydrate provision."

tunney

That being said I have a tub of it under the stairs as I like the flavour

Protein/carb drinks were once in vogue but more critical controlled research seems to have dispelled it. Jeukendrup is the man for disseminating the latest research. Well worth a follow in twitter.

TriWazza

You would want to be careful referring to single pieces of research. Probably best to relay on meta analysis or systematic reviews. Either way ... not a lot of data. Whatever works for you.

couerdelion

Your arguing apples and oranges though to be fair. Tunney is right that there is no evidence of C+P drinks helping during aerobic excercise and ThisRegard is right with the fact that the Protein helps recovery after excercise.

The evidence seems to be that the digestion system shuts down or slows down significantly during intense excercise and that protein therefore is not able to be absorbed although carbs still are at a rate 0f 0.6gm - 1.5gms per minute.

What's still unsure though is if the protein taken in the 4:1 drinks is then in prime position to be absorbed and aid recovery due to already being in the system when excercise finishes and normal digestion commences.