1st 777 to be scrapped

stopthepanic

The first 777 to be scrapped.

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7328074

the 8th one off the line and nearly 16 years old.

http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Boeing/777/26917,N719ML-WFBN-Wells-Fargo-Bank-Northwest.php

Blue Punto

And it was the first 777 I flew on back in 2001 flying United (N766UA)from LHR to JFK

ScouseMouse

I know this could come down to the definition of "scrapped", but would BA 38, which crashed at LHR, not be the first?

Blue Punto

superscouse wrote: »

I know this could come down to the definition of "scrapped", but would BA 38, which crashed at LHR, not be the first?

I will be corrected if Im wrong of course but the Trip 7 involved in the BA38 incident was written off due to an accident this 777 was retired and parted out after service with Air Indir as VT-AIR

Alot of parts on the BA38 aircraft would not be certified as useable on another aircraft due to the incident

Tenger

I suppose you could clarify between them as 'scrapped due to crash/incident' vs 'scrapped due end of useable life'.

The first is unpredictable while the second shows an airframes reaching a point of maturity in the overall career of that airframe.

joegriffinjnr

Could this not have been converted to a Cargo aircraft and sold on to the likes of DHL, Fedex etc?

globemaster1986

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Could this not have been converted to a Cargo aircraft and sold on to the likes of DHL, Fedex etc?

Currently, there is no approved 777 freighter conversion programme

EchoIndia

Two former BA and Varig 777-236s (msn 27108 & 27109) were retired several years ago and reportedly to be broken up. Unless they have survived somewhere in the meantime, they would be the first 777s to be dismantled.

stopthepanic

EchoIndia wrote: »

Two former BA and Varig 777-236s (msn 27108 & 27109) were retired several years ago and reportedly to be broken up. Unless they have survived somewhere in the meantime, they would be the first 777s to be dismantled.

I stand corrected. the source I used below shows those a/c a 'stored' but airframes.org has them as scrapped.


http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Boeing/777/777-200/index.php?sort=status&dir=desc

http://www.airframes.org/reg/n703ba

ScabbyLeg

Does anyone know what the operational life of one of these early 777s is? Is there a flight hour or cycle limit on the fuselage, landing gear etc?

Tenger

ScabbyLeg wrote: »

Does anyone know what the operational life of one of these early 777s is? Is there a flight hour or cycle limit on the fuselage, landing gear etc?

All aircraft have this, set cycle limit between certain checks as well as overall airframe lifespan.

Apparently the first batch of EI A330 had a heavy life as the SNN stopover greatly increased their number of cycles during their time with EI. (DUB-SNN-BOS or SNN-DUB-ORD)

ScabbyLeg

Yeah I was just interested to know what the limit is for the B777.

Aer Lingus' stopovers did rack up a lot of cycles, but the A330's limiting factor was a flight hour limit. Airbus set the limits for the A330 with a short to medium haul profile in mind but most operators have used them for long haul routes anyway, so they are going to hit the flight hour limit before they barely make a dent in the flight cycle limit. At least that's how it is for the components I'm familiar with, I don't have much experience with the airframe itself.

Run_to_da_hills

I would have thought some African airline would have snapped this up, 16 years is still very young compaired to what some of them are still flying out there, ie 727's etc.

sunnysoutheast

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I would have thought some African airline would have snapped this up, 16 years is still very young compaired to what some of them are still flying out there, ie 727's etc.

Cost of conversion and maintenance maybe?

Amazing to think 777s (and A330s and A321s) are now being scrapped end-of-life when I used to fly on ancient Tridents on the BA shuttles when I started off in work!

SSE

donkey balls

globemaster1986 wrote: »

Currently, there is no approved 777 freighter conversion programme

I would say it is only a matter of time before an authorised BCF program comes on line the B777F will eventually replace the MD11/MD10 and possibly the B747 depending on what cargo your airline flys.
Here is a linky to what configs the B777F can hold http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/777f.html

CaptainSkidmark

what about the 777 they used in the tv series "Lost"

apparently it had been scrapped and they used it to plant it at the bottom of the ocean to cover up its crash at a different location?


:P

Stinicker

Wasn't there an Egypt Air 777-200 which had a cockpit fire and was to be scrapped last year.

EchoIndia

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

what about the 777 they used in the tv series "Lost"

apparently it had been scrapped and they used it to plant it at the bottom of the ocean to cover up its crash at a different location?


:P

The aircraft used in "Lost" was an L-1011 - an altogther classier aircraft.:)

CaptainSkidmark

EchoIndia wrote: »

The aircraft used in "Lost" was an L-1011 - an altogther classier aircraft.:)

Oh Contrair my good man!

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Oceanic_Flight_815

Boeing 777-200

EchoIndia

What I should have said was that the aircraft used for the "wreckage" in the series was an L-1011 (N783DL to be precise).
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2005/06/14/features/story1.html

westdub

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

Oh Contrair my good man!

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Oceanic_Flight_815

Boeing 777-200

The Fictional ''Oceanic Flight 815'' was supposed to be a 777...
BUT!! They used a L-1011 fuselage section for the filming..

The aircraft that was depicted in the crash is in fact an ex-Delta Airlines Lockheed Martin L-1011-1 Tristar.

From... http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Oceanic_Flight_815

Tenger

Stinicker wrote: »

Wasn't there an Egypt Air 777-200 which had a cockpit fire and was to be scrapped last year.

http://avherald.com/h?article=44078aa7

Very true. The overall airframe was fine, all it needed was a new cockpit section. However the aircraft itself was 13+ years old so the prevailing thoughts was that replacing the cockpit was not financially viable in such an old airframe. Not sure what happened to it in the end.

SU-GBP (L/N 71) still showing as active on airframes.org.