"Hypothetical" recession type scenario

Rabidlamb

Family living on hugely reduced income, depend on car 100% due to zero public transport.
Say this car fails it's NCT or the Car Tax goes unpaid due to lack of income.
How many of you would consider these people criminals for continuing to drive the car out of necessity.

Babybuff

mostly the gardaí

hairyprincess

Unless someone had a blatant disregard for the laws I wouldn't consider them as 'criminals'. But yes this person would be breaking the law. And I would be concerned that they may come across an unsympathetic guard; or worse an unsympathetic judge.

Perhaps CWO could help. Or SVDP

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

have they no bikes?

scico rocks

The law requires you to have up-to-date tax and NCT, if you get caught, meet a grumpy judge - you're screwed!

starbelgrade

The NCT is a load of cock.

I gave an old banger I had a few years ago to a mate who asked me for it. He brought it in to be NCT'ed. One of the wing mirrors was hanging off, the handbrake was fucked, the tyres were half bald & it was leaking coolant like a good thing.

It passed, no questions asked.

Two days later, it stalled on the middle of a busy, winding country road with a blown head gasket.

Conversely, I brought my last car in - this baby was in mint condition - and they failed it on emissions. I brought it back to be re-tested a week or two later, without doing anything to the car & they passed it.

The NCT is a load of cock that that has nothing to do with road safety & everything to do with generating revenue.

bbam

It's a slippery slope when you start choosing what circumstances and whom is allowed to break the law.

What's next? No need for insurance at they can go on a holiday to cheer them up.

Driving off from petrol stations without paying so they can go out for Mothers Day Lunch.

Fighting Irish

Sorta depends, i'd have to see what they spend their money on, have they a TV, internet?

Most people these days see certain things as essentials when they're not

Rabidlamb

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Sorta depends, i'd have to see what they spend their money on, have they a TV, internet?

Most people these days see certain things as essentials when they're not

Had a neighbour going through mitigation with the bank over falling behind on their mortgage, he was told that the internet was considered a luxury he could do without.
That's really going to increase his chances of getting a job.

SEPT 23 1989

Once they can afford insurance the rest can wait

Rabidlamb

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Once they can afford insurance the rest can wait

This would be my take on it also.
The car is a necessity for school, shopping, job hunting etc.

OneArt

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Had a neighbour going through mitigation with the bank over falling behind on their mortgage, he was told that the internet was considered a luxury he could do without.
That's really going to increase his chances of getting a job.

Luxury my arse. Anyone who told me that could go suck themselves as well because I make all my income from writing online.

Dubit10

The owner should be locked up. How dare they not contribute towards the banking debt and keeping our supposed betters living in the standard they have become acustomed to.

fedor.2.

OneArt wrote: »

Luxury my arse. Anyone who told me that could go suck themselves as well because I make all my income from writing online.

Fairly broke so are ya

M cebee

illegal but understandable

loads of peeps doin it down the country-less checkpoints

foxyboxer

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Had a neighbour going through mitigation with the bank over falling behind on their mortgage, he was told that the internet was considered a luxury he could do without.
That's really going to increase his chances of getting a job.

They actually said that to him?
Cheeky f*ckers.

M cebee

there can be insurance issues with not having nct ,doe
don't know much

steddyeddy

Im not religious, an agnostic in fact but theres a biblical slogan that always made a lot of sense to me "The law is made for man not man for the law".

If theres a law infringing on a persons circumstances because they find themselves in certain circumstances I would have no humanity to consider them criminals.

hondasam

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Had a neighbour going through mitigation with the bank over falling behind on their mortgage, he was told that the internet was considered a luxury he could do without.
That's really going to increase his chances of getting a job.

The internet is a luxury if you cannot afford it tbh, there is other ways of finding work. If I lost my job phones, sky and internet would be the first things to go.

How many of you would consider these people criminals for continuing to drive the car out of necessity

I would not consider them criminals but it's better to have everything in order if you can.

Teyla Emmagan

Doesn't matter what we think TBH. It would be illegal in the eyes of the law.

Going to court and saying '76% of respondents to a poll of the randomers I hang out with on the internet said this would okay' won't be a defence that would sway any judge.

M cebee

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Doesn't matter what we think TBH. It would be illegal in the eyes of the law.

Going to court and saying '76% of respondents to a poll of the randomers I hang out with on the internet said this would okay' won't be a defence that would sway any judge.

stating the obvious

Rabidlamb

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Doesn't matter what we think TBH. It would be illegal in the eyes of the law.

Going to court and saying '76% of respondents to a poll of the randomers I hang out with on the internet said this would okay' won't be a defence that would sway any judge.

All well & good for you townies & your checkpoints.
Where I live we watch the 6 o'clock news just to remember what a guard looks like.
Headlights are seen as an optional extra.

M cebee

no checkpoints out the country these days
people with no tax etc just dodge them anyway

loads of people drink driving