Fear Mongers on Youtube and Doom Porn

geeman

Astute commentator on economics and a man who served the elites speaks about the world ending sometime this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA4Pu7af58c

He wrote a book "The Energy Non-Crisis" published in 1980 but claims to have written 6 in total, mainly about his time in Alaska and being a pastor for what he calls "The Elites" which is very vague, but maybe that's the point.

As some of you might know, he appeared on Alex Jones a number of times and had the piss taken out of him quite thoroughly as he is known to have "bombshell" insider information which turns out to be rubbish...never the less, people still hang on to the hope he might have something interesting to say...some revelation about our impending doomsday yet never does (presumably cause I don't tune into AJ)

He seems more concerned about selling DVDs and if you watch his eyes, he's clearly reading from a teleprompter. (in the above video i mean)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0RncfM9CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBJd5js1DUQ

So...you can see a pattern here with Mr. Williams and Alex Jones being complete utter fear mongers...of course, i know this but here's the thing, who here thinks people like Alex Jones are funded by someone out their with an agenda of their own?

Or are they just out trying to make a living off willing participants to their shows?

Another guy I find strange..actually rather annoying, is that Gerald Celente cnut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XEE64jlzII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12sRL6-Zlbw

I would not dispute some of the claims any of these people make but the way in which the information is delivered turns a lot of people off, including myself.

The issues discussed which are important end up being ridiculed....is that the whole point of funding people like Jones, Celente and Keiser?

Celente if some would recall was recommending everyone buy silver and gold and taking physical delivery...then we found out he had his money invested in ETFs
which are the paper equivilant, MF Global goes "bust" and he loses his savings..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmixTPge2ig

Are they all just part of the same circus act or working independently to make a living out of scaring people? And Is it possible people are behind the scenes funding this sh!te? (with exception to Keiser who is paid by RT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rzM8NbJgFg

The conspiracy for me here is that you have specific people like Alex Jones, Max Keiser, Gerald Celente, Lindsay Williams and probably loads more all promoting economic armageddon with dollar crashing or the euro collapsing, buying gold and silver, ammo, guns...it must be overwhelming for a lot of people out there, constantly living in fear of quite possibly nothing...but tell me if I'm wrong about that.

okay! add your thoughts! comments welcome mainly from skeptics on this one

Just looking for your perspective of all the commentators predicting "end of the world" stuff.

chin_grin

The only pattern I see here is that all these people/videos seem to originate from the US.

Coincidence? I think not! <x-files theme tune> :pac:

geeman

chin_grin wrote: »

The only pattern I see here is that all these people/videos seem to originate from the US.

Coincidence? I think not! <x-files theme tune> :pac:

That's true but I'm talking about how the content they discuss is delivered.

Some of what they discuss can have a solid foundation but then they deliver it in such a desperate histrionic tone that most people can't take it seriously and just dismiss it as nonsense...they lose credibility and damage reputation of others that might want to discuss the same content online in more constructive manner.

I've seen "tin foil hat" and "conspiracy theorist" used here on boards.ie to smear anyone that tries to discuss pretty serious topics.

Usually the protagonist has little to no knowledge of the topic and rather than try to understand it just dismisses as "tin foil hat sh!t"

geeman

Found some more examples of scamming by people on youtube spreading fear but this has been well known for while now, although these guys are doing it purely for the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDxUjMOKROU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yloely_r31M

Daithi 1

Not so much fear mongering as pointing out probabilities and positives.

A bill has been passed in the US for 30,000 drone planes inside the US by 2015.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/319564

And, the latest machine from DARPA, this things arent for hunting rabbits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2D71CveQwo

and another

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ

geeman

pretty impressive movement there but i don't want to speculate on what they're being developed for.

Jonny7

geeman wrote: »

pretty impressive movement there but i don't want to speculate on what they're being developed for.

As replacements for mules.

As for the videos, its doom-mongering and sensationalism - it sells well. Alex Jones is a very wealthy man. Much like Fox News.

geeman

Jonny7 wrote:

As replacements for mules.

Department of Defense are using millions of dollars building these robots to replace mules.

That would seem like the most likely reason for building them.

Jonny7

"The goal of this effort is to create legged robots that mimic animal structure, mechanics and control, in order to achieve animal-like strength, speed and mobility. The priority application is a robot that could eventually accompany Marines and other troops in the field as a load-carrier across nearly any terrain. This 15-month contract also includes 3 one-year options which would bring the cumulative value of this contract to $40 million if exercised."
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/darpas-robot-dog-project-03457/

That's what they are being designed for and that's the intended purpose.

Yakult

Daithi 1 wrote: »

and another

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ

That's pretty class I must say. I got a good laugh when out of no where he side kicks it and was expecting it to crash down but it had the great balance of a deer!

sbsquarepants

That is one badass scary looking robot!:eek:

Daithi 1

Jonny7 wrote: »

"The goal of this effort is to create legged robots that mimic animal structure, mechanics and control, in order to achieve animal-like strength, speed and mobility. The priority application is a robot that could eventually accompany Marines and other troops in the field as a load-carrier across nearly any terrain. This 15-month contract also includes 3 one-year options which would bring the cumulative value of this contract to $40 million if exercised."
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/darpas-robot-dog-project-03457/

That's what they are being designed for and that's the intended purpose.

Yeah, to assist the military and defence. Machines to assist in killing other humans.:rolleyes:

studiorat

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Yeah, to assist the military and defence. Machines to assist in killing other humans.:rolleyes:

You could use it as a robotic high horse.

Anyway, if you get your knickers in a twist about a robotic donkey you're gonna love this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNZS15ItYnk

jackiebaron

Jonny7 wrote: »

"The goal of this effort is to create legged robots that mimic animal structure, mechanics and control, in order to achieve animal-like strength, speed and mobility. The priority application is a robot that could eventually accompany Marines and other troops in the field as a load-carrier across nearly any terrain. This 15-month contract also includes 3 one-year options which would bring the cumulative value of this contract to $40 million if exercised."
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/darpas-robot-dog-project-03457/

That's what they are being designed for and that's the intended purpose.

What complete and utter bollocks. So they're spending millions on a bloody robot that would eventually be able to carry one 10th of the load that an Abrams or Bradley vehicle can already do.
These things are going to be used to kill. Don't be so naive.

jackiebaron

studiorat wrote: »

You could use it as a robotic high horse.

Anyway, if you get your knickers in a twist about a robotic donkey you're gonna love this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNZS15ItYnk

Looks fake.

Jonny7

jackiebaron wrote: »

What complete and utter bollocks. So they're spending millions on a bloody robot that would eventually be able to carry one 10th of the load that an Abrams or Bradley vehicle can already do.
These things are going to be used to kill. Don't be so naive.

No, "BigDog" by Boston Mechanics is intended to be a robotic mule to carry loads in difficult terrain.

studiorat

jackiebaron wrote: »

These things are going to be used to kill. Don't be so naive.

Same as Walkie-Talkies are "used to kill", same as digital photography is "used to kill", GPS, the internet I suppose...

Daithi 1

Jonny7 wrote: »

No, "BigDog" by Boston Mechanics is intended to be a robotic mule to carry loads in difficult terrain.

And what do you suppose this will be used for ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mclbVTIYG8E

studiorat

Daithi 1 wrote: »

And what do you suppose this will be used for ?

Testing protective clothing. What do you think it's gonna be used for?

Daithi 1

studiorat wrote: »

Testing protective clothing. What do you think it's gonna be used for?

Killing muppets.

texidub

Alex Jones is known for his critique of government. He says they engage in a technique which he calls 'problem-reaction-solution.'

Governments create a problem. The public reacts, with fear/anger/whatever, demanding that something be done. Governments provide the solution (which --according to Alex-- by some strange coincidence happens to be exactly what they wanted to implement in the first place).

It is a worthwhile consideration and quite a concept.

Alex does the same thing with his listeners.

He uses media to identify a problem --the 'NWO' in this case-- thereby instilling a reaction of fear, anger, and mistrust among his listeners.

He then provides the solution by selling them things that people in a state of fear, mistrust, or anger might buy: survival gear, colloidal silver kits, water filters, gold, et al.

Problem-reaction-solution... Alex is the master at that

geeman

Well, since this is a DARPA funded project, it's not beyond the realms of reason to believe robots would be used to kill people...armies already use drones to kill people, what would stop them using mechanical droids like PETMAN?

To say that it's irrational believing the military would use such technology to kill is extremely naive.

I can understand people would over-react to such developments, but to argue the military would never use the technology to kill people is rather silly.

Jonny7

geeman wrote: »

but to argue the military would never use the technology to kill people is rather silly.

No one is arguing that.

Almost all military tech around the globe is used directly or indirectly to kill (or "defense" as they put it)

The maneuvering, balance and coordination in the robotic mule will no likely be of use to the US (or others) in developing unmanned robots on the battlefield.

However that is no more alarming or sinister than e.g. the development of gas at the beginning of last century.

geeman

Put it like this....if a robot does attack you, I won't be helping you out. lol

One thing I would add is that they look pretty weak...It'd be funny seeing the military try to use these as weapons, I'd destroy one in about 10 seconds...how much tax payer money is that down the drain?
Good times ahead!

DARPA Robots = Junk (smashed to pieces to less than 10 seconds)

geeman

In the video for PETMAN, the technician pushes the robot like a pansy...you wouldn't push over a 2 year old with that amount of energy.

The only thing that wouldn't defeat these killer robots are physically inept and DARPA approved.

Watch that video where the scientist pushes it like a faXXot...these robots would be destroyed within 5 seconds.

Don't worry though, the military think they're the next hot military hardware product for 21st century.

To be perfectly honest, I find Lindsey Williams or whatever you call him more entertaining...atleast he talks about the Elites.

geeman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSboFGRm-XU

"18 films for $99.95"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWvV7rNdWYM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZnxyxxhW48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ccX_PQtlMY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YhBW0oKigA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJrXxvzZRCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28kJjFfhVQ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU5hxTVJrX4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IRpn-fN3DE

oops...they got all mixed up.

geeman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-hosIMfYU

studiorat

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Killing muppets.

How many have been killed already so?

nyarlothothep

Daithi 1 wrote: »

And what do you suppose this will be used for ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mclbVTIYG8E

That reminded me a lot of Robocop 2 where they're introducing the new robocops and they all commit suicide.

Deep Easterly

texidub wrote: »

Alex is the master at that

I am deeply suspicious of the motives behind the fear mongering that Alex and others who are of the same thought seem to instill in his listeners. I think the real motive behind the increasing amount of N.W.O / Illuminati conspiracy theories stem from a deeply rooted racism in these people which is more often than not hidden under the guise of religious righteousness.

Jonny7

Deep Easterly wrote: »

I am deeply suspicious of the motives behind the fear mongering that Alex and others who are of the same thought seem to instill in his listeners. I think the real motive behind the increasing amount of N.W.O / Illuminati conspiracy theories stem from a deeply rooted racism in these people which is more often than not hidden under the guise of religious righteousness.

Also the money. Alex Jones is not a poor man.

Scare stories sell, just look at Fox News

xflyer

jackiebaron wrote: »

What complete and utter bollocks. So they're spending millions on a bloody robot that would eventually be able to carry one 10th of the load that an Abrams or Bradley vehicle can already do.
These things are going to be used to kill. Don't be so naive.

You do realise that soldiers routinely go to places where vehicles cannot, jungles, hills, rough ground, over streams etc. At the moment soldiers are heavily loaded down with all their gear. These things would mean they could travel further with more supplies.

They could be used for fighting and killing but a good burst from an Ak47 and it's all fizz, fizz splutter, clonk. Actually even for it's carrying job, they'll probably fall over a lot and break down.