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Garda to open ranks to PSNI officers

  • 14-03-2012 10:12AM
    #1
    Tyron Jara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭


    So heres an article in the Irish times about the Garda Siochana hiring members of the PSNI to fill top positions such as Inspector, Superintendant, Chief Superintendant and Asisstant Commissioner. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2012/0314/1224313272778.html

    It would be intrsting to here some views from members of the Gardai on this latest development.

    My own personal view is this could be a good thing. It can bring new expierences and managements styles from another Police force into the Gardai. This could be the way forward... However I also feel this undermines the fact that every Garda at top ranks have worked there way up through An Garda Siochana and have been in it from the very start. Im split down the middle about this. How is a Garda going for promotion going to feel if they are outdone by a member of the PSNI and not another Garda such as themselves.

    Just some food for thought.


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  • #2
    da_hambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭da_hambo


    Only thing is, I couldnt see many wanting to transfer down, with our paycuts, crap resources and budgets.

    I met a few Southerners up there on my secondment, might interest them though!

    Overall good to blow away the narrowmindedness of some people by allowing these types of transfers! Bring it on!


  • #3
    bluetop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭bluetop


    da_hambo wrote: »
    Only thing is, I couldnt see many wanting to transfer down, with our paycuts, crap resources and budgets.

    I met a few Southerners up there on my secondment, might interest them though!

    Overall good to blow away the narrowmindedness of some people by allowing these types of transfers! Bring it on!

    With all the cuts, roster changes it will give the GRA, AGSI something more to moan and groan about, personally i think you will get a lot of interest, especially from a money point of view, and of course southerners going north to work in the PSNI.


  • #4
    King Ludvig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭King Ludvig


    Provided it works both ways (ie. AGS members can apply for senior PSNI positions) then I think it's a good thing. The more links and co-operation between north and south the better IMO.


  • #5
    Tyron Jara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭Tyron Jara


    King Ludvig wrote: »
    Provided it works both ways (ie. AGS members can apply for senior PSNI positions) then I think it's a good thing. The more links and co-operation between north and south the better IMO.
    As far as I know they can because ive heard of the PSNI looking for high ranking guards to join them.


  • #6
    Goonerdee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    King Ludvig wrote: »
    Provided it works both ways (ie. AGS members can apply for senior PSNI positions) then I think it's a good thing. The more links and co-operation between north and south the better IMO.

    Im sure it does, if Im not mistaken during the last campaign looking for a Chief Constable there was a Garda officer on the list.

    I think.


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  • #7
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If I was in the PSNI I'd be transferring over at the first opportunity.

    From my observations, the life of a Garda is a much, much handier one than that of a PSNI Officer (not that the Gardaí don't have it tough, but the PSNI seem to have it much, much worse).


  • #8
    Shield
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,813 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If I was in the PSNI I'd be transferring over at the first opportunity.

    From my observations, the life of a Garda is a much, much handier one than that of a PSNI Officer (not that the Gardaí don't have it tough, but the PSNI seem to have it much, much worse).
    Hi Shane.

    I think you'll find that the transfers (are in the main) always leaving AGS to join the PSNI. Our training, equipment, Policing Plan, vehicles, etc are 10 years ahead of AGS. When I say "transfers", I mean they leave and start all over again as no mechanism currently exists for a Garda to become a PSNI Officer.


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shield wrote: »
    Hi Shane.

    I think you'll find that the transfers (are in the main) always leaving AGS to join the PSNI. Our training, equipment, Policing Plan, vehicles, etc are 10 years ahead of AGS. When I say "transfers", I mean they leave and start all over again as no mechanism currently exists for a Garda to become a PSNI Officer.


    I do find that strange though. What's the money situation like? Is there a big financial incentive to start over?

    I'd have thought that the life of a Garda would be quite comfortable compared to that of a PSNI officer? It seems that most Garda time here is spent dealing with rather petty things, or overlooking crime scenes.

    Across the border the PSNI are probably sick to the teeth of not knowing whether their station will be bombed this week, or if some lunatic is gonna try and kill them in their cars.


    Admittedly, AGS members probably envy the more action-packed lifestyle and knowledge that the force is being run properly with decent backup when necessary and good gear being handed out, but how long can you do that PSNI stuff before you become exhausted?


    (admittedly, I've simplified and exaggerated the AGS/PSNI lifestyles, but just trying to get my outsider's viewpoint across).


  • #10
    mcgarrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭mcgarrett


    Shield wrote: »
    Hi Shane.

    I think you'll find that the transfers (are in the main) always leaving AGS to join the PSNI. Our training, equipment, Policing Plan, vehicles, etc are 10 years ahead of AGS. When I say "transfers", I mean they leave and start all over again as no mechanism currently exists for a Garda to become a PSNI Officer.

    Any chance of a quick pic of the 2022 Mondeo?


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